OMG OMG OMG I KNOW WHY the Righties panties are in a knot

[DainBramaged]

over Ms. Harriet Miers:

SHE'S SINGLE WITH NO CHILDREN, WHICH MEANS SHE ISN'T ONE OF "THEM".

They gave Mehlman a pass because as Rethuglie Chairman he can't hurt them, BUT SOMENOE (wink wink, nod nod) without children and never married MAY BE A CLOSET LIBERAL.


It gets better by the second.:tinfoilhat:


However, she could still be a stealth Conservobomb as I posted eariler.

[Renew Deal]

1. I think you're correct.

I think this is a major factor in their heads.

[Guaranteed]

53. .....

That's it?

How many of them even knew that?

I think that there is serious psychological stuff at work here, but....this seems kind of low on the list...

[William769]

2. Or maybe a closeted lesbian.

Now wouldn't that be a kick in the pants.

[SpiralHawk]

5. Oh no, not a closeted thespian !

We don't need no steenkin actors on our precious and pure SuPrEmE cOurT

[htuttle]

8. They already elected one openly thespian man as president

I understand there was another suspected thespian elected Governor of California, but after seeing a few of his movies, I don't think he's a thespian at all...just really hammy. Arnold doesn't set off my 'act-dar'...

[Jackpine Radical]

32. ROFL.

[donheld]

42. Or maybe a closeted thespian lesbian

Or is it a closet lesbian thespian? :shrug:

[Mr_Spock]

51. Or maybe a quadresbian, thespian lesbian?

It could happen! :D

[kestrel91316]

56. Gee, then we would have THREE gays on the SC...........

All appointed by Republican presidents, too.

[LoKnLoD]

3. Isn't Condi

unmarried and childless also? Hmmm...

[CitySky]

19. In Texas, women get a CHOICE: marriage OR career

Unfortunately that's the vibe I get sometimes -- since I moved to Texas. I meet people who seem to have that assumption. You have an advanced degree and a professional job? Okay, so you're not getting married and having kids. Obviously a lot of people flout it and live their lives, but I find that to be an underlying cultural assumption here more so than in the (blue) places I'm from.

Miers was described as a "workaholic" on NPR. Guess she "chose" her career.

[tx_dem41]

4. This is about the 10th time its been posted...

and now I'll ask again....why are we, as progressives, playing up homophobic stereotypes. This time with glee. Should be with shame, IMO.

[DBoon]

7. you mean the accusation that homosexuals are (*gasp*) liberals?

nt

[Misunderestimator]

11. I'm gonna have to agree with you this one time...

[tx_dem41]

15. OMG....a pig just flew by my window....

Thanks...I owe you one. :)

[Misunderestimator]

18. And hell froze over... I know...

;)

[DainBramaged]

12. Could it be "gasp" that WE aren't playing up stereotypes

But putting all of the cards on the table since this nomination makes actually NO sense.

[tx_dem41]

17. Yeah....thats a nicer way to put it then calling it what it is.

Why don't you go down thread, and read what it really is.

[Misunderestimator]

20. Why would being a lesbian be a card to put on the table?

And why would someone's looks be a card to put on the table? It's a great tactic from the right to distract us from her horrible conservative record.

[wakemewhenitsover]

41. It's the hypocrisy.

[DanCa]

6. Wow mr olson you just replaced mr kent as the planets chief reporter

Funny how youve never seen Clark Kent and Superman at the same time.

[jaysunb]

9. My friend is 61 and never married,

childless, and loves nothing better than her privacy & a romp in the hay.-- At least for the last 31 years. So, it's hard for me (he he ) to wrap my head around this particular theory. She also has several never married, childless friends her age. I suspect it has more to do with the womens lib movement that occured during their most viable days. ( 20's-30's)

Now, if someone suggested she (Mier) was a tad "homely" or a bit ugly....well, there may be some validity. But single is not even remotely a signal of being a lesbian.

[tx_dem41]

13. Huh?!? So you are saying that if she was "homely" or a "bit ugly"..

then you might believe that she was a lesbian? Do you ever re-read what you write??

[jaysunb]

21. Listen up

If one were to question her single status due to , " homeliness or dour looks " I could understand. But to jump to the conclusion her solo life is because of lesbianism is really a stretch.

Got It !

[tx_dem41]

27. Ummmm....why could you "understand"? n/t

[jaysunb]

30. Because, she and I are in the same age group

and in our youth, there was quite a premium on physical atributes.

[vi5]

22. Uh...that's not how I read it at all...

What he (she?) was saying was that if someone wants to call her (Miers) homely or ugly then he'll agree that she is because what she looks like is obvious. But that if someone says she is a lesbian then that's a different story precisely BECAUSE you can't base that on looks.

[Misunderestimator]

25. That is not how it came across.

At all.

[vi5]

49. Well, not how I read it at all....

I got on the first read through what the person meant, and clarly based on thier subsequent responses I was correct in my assesement. Grammatically speaking what they said made perfect sense. People are implying that she is middle aged and unmarried because she is gay. The poster said that being 61 and unmarried is likely not the result of being gay but of being unattractive.

I can't say that sentiment is any more tactful or nice, but it is definitely how it reads grammatically and contextually speaking.

[Misunderestimator]

23. Wow! Uh.... just fucking wow.

"Now, if someone suggested she (Mier) was a tad "homely" or a bit ugly....well, there may be some validity. But single is not even remotely a signal of being a lesbian."

I had no idea I should be going after only ugly women... wow! To all those straight beautiful women I've had relationships with... I am so sorry... I did NOT know that you weren't gay. Swear. :sarcasm:

What an idiotic thing to say.

On edit... you very clearly are implying that being homely or a bit ugly somehow IS a better signal to being a lesbian than being single. No way to squirm out of that one.

[SharonRB]

29. That's definitely the way it came across to me, too.

And, just for the record, MisU, I wouldn't consider you ugly or homely in any way.

[Misunderestimator]

31. Aw, thank you, Sharon...

Very nice of you to say... :hi:

[SharonRB]

33. You're welcome, MisU

:hi:

[jaysunb]

34. Hold on a minute

I really don't give a fuck if she's straight or gay ! She's ugly as sin, which would be a good reason why she's single. PERIOD !

[Misunderestimator]

36. This has to do with what YOU said... explain it please:

"Now, if someone suggested she (Mier) was a tad "homely" or a bit ugly....well, there may be some validity. But single is not even remotely a signal of being a lesbian."

Explain that. Please.... try.

[jaysunb]

37. it's pretty self explanatory.

And posted because I don't cotton to people suggesting that older single women may be gay.
And if you think I have some problem w/ Lesbians, please consult with your current partner.

[Misunderestimator]

38. Yes, it's self-explanatory, you insinuated that gay women are ugly.

Very fucking clear to me.

Let me break it down for you. To paraphrase you, you said:

Just because she is single doesn't mean anything... I might believe she was gay if she was ugly. That's a much better indicator.

Don't pretend you said something different. As for consulting my partner.... uh... not necessary... you are talking to me here.

(And... on edit... why do you have a problem with calling older, single women gay? one SHOULD be offended that people are using calling someone gay as an insult.)

[jaysunb]

39. I've re-read my post, and

can't understand for the life of me what you are talking about. Maybe you should read it.

Now, if someone suggested she (Mier) was a tad "homely" or a bit ugly....well, there may be some validity. But single is not even remotely a signal of being a lesbian.

[Misunderestimator]

40. Unbelievable. If you can't see it, I can't show you it. But here:

Now, if someone suggested she (Mier) was a tad "homely" or a bit ugly....well, there may be some validity. But single is not even remotely a signal of being a lesbian.

Single is not even remotely a signal of being a lesbian. If she was a tad homely or ugly, the assumption that she is a lesbian would have more validity.

Why on earth do you think that her being ugly would be a better sign that she was gay? :wtf:

Can you HEAR ME NOW?

:banghead:

[jaysunb]

44. No I don't hear you

That is not even remotely what my original post alluded to . why won't you read it? or are you just interested in starting a fight ?

[Misunderestimator]

45. I keep quoting your original post. You're being obtuse.

:hi:

[johnaries]

52. If I can step in here for just a sec as an "impartial observer",

I don't think jaysunb is stating his/her own opinions (at least I HOPE not!) but trying to point out the stereotypical thinking of many people. I don't think he/she is trying to justify it, just trying to help others understand the thinking of some of these hypocrites.

And it's important for the rest of us to understand what these people are thinking if we want to help educate them.

I understand the "group think" mentality that everyone's main purpose in life is to get married and give your parents grand-children. OK, I don't really understand it, but I did grow up in that environment.

In that environment and type of thinking, when someone surpasses child-bearing age and still isn't married - well, to the limited thinking of this group there can only be two reasons:
A; the person is just too unattractive to attract a mate, or
B; they are gay.

Of course, we here at DU see the ridiculousness of these conclusions. But some people actually think this way.

My father, for one. He actually did not believe that men and women could be friends without sex being involved. I can't tell you how many times I introduced him to women that were my friends, and he did not, COULD NOT, believe our relationship was Platonic.

Again, I'm not trying to justify this thinking. I'm just saying that some people actually think this way. No matter how ridiculous it sounds to us.

[tx_dem41]

43. Let me help you out...

when you said:

"But single is not even remotely a signal of being a lesbian."

You are implying that being "homely" or a "bit ugly" is a signal. Especially right after you said:

"Now, if someone suggested she (Mier) was a tad "homely" or a bit ugly....well, there may be some validity."

[Garbo 2004]

50. Breaking news: "homely" and "ugly" people get married too. They also

can be gay, straight or simply not interested.

[DainBramaged]

57. I'm one homely AND ugly sonofabitch, and I'm in my 24th year

of marriage. And my wife is the most beautiful person I've ever known. It comes down to this. I have no clue what the fuck in going on in Bishy's mind, and I'm sorry I started this thread. But something is VERY wrong with this nomination, very wrong, and I can't put my finger on it.

Maybe the wind will blow the fog away in a day or two, but for now, she is ugly, homley, possibly gay, or not, and she is a flaming Conservative, and that's more dangerous than anything I know.

[Garbo 2004]

60. She reportedly told Frum Bush was the most brilliant person she ever met.

That's enough right there to question her critical thinking skills and disqualify her from the SCOTUS.

[Gold Metal Flake]

10. Which righties?

The for-profit attack dogs in the media are barking because *co told them to.

The mindless freepoids are burping up attack-dog vomit because the eat whatever is fed to them without a moments thought.

*co wants this person because of attorney/cient priveledge and to ensure *co immunity from ultimate conviction for any crimes. The old Gang of Five committed a coup and got away with it. The new & improved Gang of Five will allow *co to steal everything we ever had, and the new domestic private armies will make sure thay get away with it.

[DainBramaged]

16. You give them too much credit

They are bulletproof, don't you know that?

[vi5]

14. An old boss of mine, who despite her politics is a dear friend...

..is in her late 50's and has never been married or had children. And she is a rabid wingnut. I mean as rabid and as partisan a republican as they come. And she most definitely is not gay. She's also not rabidly homophobi so I don't think it's a closeted self loathing thing. I just think she's never been able to get a guy to stay with her because of her personality.

[Bucky]

24. Sleazeball alert! (She's one of "THEM". She's just not on "mommy track")

There's boodles of reasons why a grown woman wouldn't have children. None of them need to involve liberalism.

Suggesting a woman who's stayed single all her life must be gay is one of the sleaziest smears in the book.

[iconoclastNYC]

26. Time to start the wisper campaign

I swear to go there are more closeted gays in the Republican party then at the Oscars.

[OneNation]

28. The wingnuts say they don't like Miers

because they don't anything about her. No paper trail....except for a campaign contribution to Al Gore. The fact that she gave money to Al Gore drives them nuts. Hee, hee, hee.

Funny how they accepted Roberts even though he didn't have paper trail....of course Roberts had a wife and kids.

I think that both Roberts and Miers are both careerists, which means that both are married to their careers. Roberts was shrewed enough to get himself a family in order to present a better public image. My guess is that Miers didn't think that she would be in the position she is in today so she never bother with starting a family for the sake of her image.

[Neshanic]

35. Only one thing matters. She knows things. Put her in a place...

where she would be quite a hassle to get to testify, if at all.

[butchcjg]

46. She's conservative

No doubt.
They chose someone who is a conservative and a Bush asskisser and now the fact that the conservatives upset is tricking US into thinking she's okay.

[tanyev]

47. ABC just did a piece about how important her

evangelical faith is to her. Never married? Then she must be a 60 year old virgin, eh?

[mcar]

48. Good point

My fundie brother (who lives in Texas) says that any woman who's not married is selfish, a "lesbo" and not following God's path.

He also said that women in Texas are good God fearing xtians and do get married.

I guess he didn't know about Ms. Miers.

(By the way, he said this to my 48 year old single sister when she called him to wish him a Merry Christmas last year). :eyes:

[Guaranteed]

54. We're getting pretty far out into Speculation Land here.

I think the freepers feel let down, more than anything, because they were looking for a public, Christo-fascist militant.

This is going a little far.

[insane_cratic_gal]

55. Maybe she's a Nun

Or had Nun like dreams. Where did she go to college again?

[Cha]

58. So condasleeza is a

closet liberal?

[lateo]

59. She is "Unfrozen Cavewoman Lawyer"

With appologies to the late, great Phil Hartman.