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Tue Oct-04-05 09:12 PM
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Commander in Chief: Gen. Warren Keaton = Gen. Wesley Clark? |
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Sounds like the character is at least loosely based on Gen. Clark. What do you guys think?
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:13 PM
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:14 PM
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2. "won a war without losing a single american life"-Thats Clark allright. n/ |
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:15 PM
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3. That's exactly what I was thinking |
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It seems to fit. Both won a war without losing an american life, both are smart, and both are apparently democrats.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:16 PM
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American general won a war without losing a single American economic genius West Point grad "not a duplicitous bone in his body"
--- bet if you checked the writers you would find a Clark fan.
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Wed Oct-05-05 09:40 PM
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57. I didn't see the show... |
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but it sounds like Gen Clark to me...which could be a good or a bad thing, I guess, depending on how it plays out. Makes me want to watch the show to see, though, and I had no intention of watching it before.
My young nephew, who did watch the show, said the character was "more offensive...blunt in a rude sort of way" than Clark though. Wes is ever the gentleman.
I do like the "not a duplicitous bone in his body" line. :)
All in all, I think it's pretty cool.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:18 PM
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:21 PM
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6. Wow. I may have to start watching this one. I love Wes Clark! eom |
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:23 PM
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7. Yup...they didn't have to hit *me* on the head with a sledgehammer |
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for me to get that reference.
So far, this show is pretty darned intriguing. :)
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:26 PM
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8. That's what I said to my husband! "That man is suppose to represent Wes |
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Clark!" Yep. I agree with you.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:26 PM
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9. Did you also notice his way of presenting his case |
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Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 09:28 PM by porter
Twice that I noticed, he used the typical Clark style (example last night with O'Liely; "It's a three legged stool, first.....")of pointing out three things and referring to them as, first-second-third or number one, two and three.
There is also the name Warren/Wesley, Keaton/Kanne. Also, just a very slight hint of a southern accent.
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Wed Oct-05-05 03:04 PM
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:26 PM
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10. What are you talking about? |
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:30 PM
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Commander in Chief with Geena Davis as the first female president.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:35 PM
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So is this General going to be a regular character? Is he a "good guy"? Is he good looking?....
(yes, I'm a Clarkie, heh)
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:38 PM
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21. It appears he may be a regular if he can get confirmed. LOL |
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Peter Coyote is playing the part.
The evil repuke speaker of the house is saying he will never get confirmed.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:39 PM
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Tue Oct-04-05 10:27 PM
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32. Evil repuke speaker of the house . . . |
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Oh, but I do love Donald Sutherland!
Have ever since I laid eyes on him in MASH. I was also very touched by his declaration earlier this week about how bushco is ruining this country.
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Tue Oct-04-05 10:36 PM
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34. Yep. Donald Sutherland is great. |
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Great actor and Great Liberal!
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Tue Oct-04-05 10:41 PM
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Welcome to DU, peacebaby3! :hi:
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:09 PM
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49. Isn't the Sutherland character in the same party as the Pres? |
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In the first show they wanted her to step down so he would succeed the dying president? Or am I missing the boat here?
Either way, he plays that part well, a real evil mofo . . . prototypical Repub, for sure.
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:55 PM
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56. The Geena Davis character is Independent, |
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The Sutherland character is a repub.
Yeah, he can do anything & always does it well. I thought he was fantastic in Backdraft as the maniacal arsonist. Seemed so innocent until he started talking about fire.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:27 PM
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11. What night, time and network is it on? |
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:28 PM
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Tuesdays at 9 P.M. (ET) and on ABC. It's actually pretty good but not really west wing good.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:40 PM
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23. It looked like it sucked in the previews. |
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Oh - and I LIKE Geena Davis. I just think the show looks incredibly boring.
AND I'm a Clarkie. :)
(But, don't go by me. I think most TV IS boring. You guys are much more entertaining.)
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:29 PM
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14. 8PM Central - Tuesday nights. On ABC. n/t |
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:27 PM
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12. Y'all wanna let the rest of us in on it |
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:29 PM
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Refering to the oval office, he said that that he had been there a couple of administrations ago to give a President a tongue lashing about his targeting in the Balkans.
The recordings of the debate were the type of things that Clark said in the debates.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:29 PM
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16. That's what I thought |
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there were a lot of parallels. A four star general who fought a war and didn't lose a single man, and who has a background in economics.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:36 PM
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20. Joe Scarborough on MSN is going to discuss the program |
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in a couple minutes...or at least sometime during the next 25 min.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:40 PM
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Tue Oct-04-05 10:28 PM
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33. The economics background reference |
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is the thing that sounds the best. It's the part of General Clark's CV that gets overlooked most. Tragic as it might seem a TV show with a character that mirrors Clark's qualifications could be just the sort of thing that'll help him get more recognition.
Now we just have to hope that the writers aren't Repubs who script it so that General WFK (hey, how 'bout them initials for connotations?) turns out to be a dead loss or a fraud.
Oh, and I've gotta hope that some Aussie network decides to show it, too :-)
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:34 PM
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18. Sorry. I guess I should have been more descriptive. |
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Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 09:36 PM by peacebaby3
The new Geena Davis show on ABC.
She plays the first female president. She is an independent who was selected to run with a repuke as his VP. He dies 2 years into office and although the repuke speaker of the house wants her to resign so he can become prez, she decides to stay. She is now the prez and in the 2nd episode she needs to pick a vp. She chooses the guy who was her opponent (on the Dem ticket) to be her VP. This guy's description sounds just like Clark.
I'm betting (as someone else said) there is a Clark supporter on the writing staff.
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:42 PM
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26. Didn't Wes Jr. post on DU that his father was helping to write a newTV |
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series based on his life as a General?
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:47 PM
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27. I don't remember. My gut says that someone involved with this show |
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likes Clark and modeled a character after him.
I would think if Clark were involved in creating and writing a show, it would be based on his life in the military.
Just a guess though since I have no idea.
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Tue Oct-04-05 10:44 PM
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36. Come to think of it..... |
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Is'nt Wes Jr. a screenwriter. ;-)
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:47 PM
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28. From what I could tell that went nowhere |
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It sort of came and went. :shrug:
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:50 PM
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29. OMG. Yes he did! I forgot all about that! Do you suppose this is it? |
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:42 PM
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25. You can watch us figuring it out... |
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You can see the thought process of the CCN crowd on this thread: http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/1433
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Tue Oct-04-05 09:59 PM
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30. They are as fast over there as the DUers. Bet most of them are here as |
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well.
I am a big Clark supporter. I worked on the Draft Clark campaign and then as a campaign leader in my state.
He is going to be speaking here in the next week or so. I wish I could be there, but I'm not going to be able to make it.
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Tue Oct-04-05 10:12 PM
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31. I caught most of the show and enjoyed it |
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there definitely is a Clark resemblance (4 star general in Europe) with the VP choice...
Donald Sutherland as the bad guy...
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Tue Oct-04-05 11:26 PM
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Definately is Wes Clark character...Loved it wonderfully written..just enough to bring the truth out to the people who are not politically involved. Great idea...a liberal show with liberal stars...Loved it. Lets get their ratings up...
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Wed Oct-05-05 12:31 AM
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38. The actor Peter Coyote (I think that's the spelling) |
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He's playing the part and it looked like he had studied Clark's actions, way of talking, etc. This character is so Wes Clark, so obvious and by the way, he will be a good guy on the show. Sutherland is the bad guy (not in real life of course).
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Wed Oct-05-05 01:05 AM
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39. I have to admit....Mr. Coyote was certainly doing |
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the only Democratic 4 star General out there.....
Plus, losta references to Oklahoma....we know who won that primary...right?
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Wed Oct-05-05 07:42 AM
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40. If he gets confirmed, I'll watch this show... |
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otherwise, I have been trying to drop all watching of the networks as much as possible, and will not. (If anyone connected with the show is watching... I am down to ONE network show now -- Wes Wing -- so if you want to grab me as a viewer of this show, confirm this character, and you've got me!)
Sounds good, though! I can't imagine Coyote doing Clark. DId they gray up his hair?
TC
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Wed Oct-05-05 07:58 AM
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41. I agree but this one I really love |
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Most TV I just ignore it is so inane.
This one show gives me a little hope (how sad is that?)
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Wed Oct-05-05 10:00 AM
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42. Tidbit of info about one of the writers |
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One of the writers for the show, Allison Adler, is the partner of Sara Gilbert ( Roseanne, ER ). They have a new baby boy.
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:17 PM
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52. End Credits Prod Co.name: Battle PlanProductions |
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Wed Oct-05-05 10:25 AM
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43. TV General is not as good looking as Wes (sigh) e/t |
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Wed Oct-05-05 10:53 AM
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45. Oh well, can't have everything.... |
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Probably would have been more difficult to find a compelling actor who was also good looking as Wes. I mean, the General does look like a movie star, IMO!
hope he gets confirmed!
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47. Obvious.But Wes would have been more supportive of a woman. |
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:30 PM
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54. Wayne Keaton was supportive of her (Mackenzie Allen). |
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He treated her as an equal and didn't pull any punches! Ya goota love that and she was no wilting flower with him either. M.A.: I know what I am going to be doing for the next two years, do you? That was priceless.
This show has all the evilness in Washington personified. I am gonna love it! :bounce:
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Wed Oct-05-05 03:27 PM
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48. There was even a Helen Thomas at the press conferences. |
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Did anyone else see her... I love this show. I can't remember all the digs, but I told my daughter-in-law, I was gonna like this show, they dissed the Bush whitehouse a couple of times.
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Wed Oct-05-05 04:19 PM
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53. I wasn't thinking Gen. Clark... |
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He was a good solid character to legitimize her presidency.
What I like better is that she is an independent and doesn't answer to either party. She doesn't think she could win an election as president and doesn't have anything to lose so she'll do what's best for the American people. That's an attitude I really wish we had in the WH.
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55. Yeah. Too bad the show is lame. n/t |
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