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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:20 AM Original message |
Is religious fundamentalism compatible with modern democracy? |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. Should the Communist party be outlawed? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Is Stalinism compatible with democracy? |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. At the basis communism of almost any brand |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Orthodox communists expect the capitalism to collapse |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Orthodox marxists you mean, not Orthodox Communists |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. No. There are some Christian communists who don't believe in revolution |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Well now we are dealing with semantics |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Well, I thought I made clear when I referred to Leninist-Stalinists |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Nobody gave the Communist Party tax-exempt status... |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. it "should" be, yes |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
3. BurtWorm, my own post on the same topic |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I was trying to reframe yours to make it less inflammable. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. his was vulnerable because he mentioned specific |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I thought you were spot on. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. I guess it's too late to comment on your post |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
5. The problem is a question of tolerance. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. thanks for unhooking the word "religious" from "fundamentalist" |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
8. no |
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MN ChimpH8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
11. No, |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
13. Curiously, as an atheist, I don't believe that fundamentalism is |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I've always thought of evangelists as interested primarily in saving souls |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. I think so. That's why there are always those on this site that |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. I can live with them as well. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. The Dominionists don't represent all Fundamentalists. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Thank you. That's just what I said, which is why I amended my |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. Their Coexistance is as problematic as Scientific Fundamentalism/Democracy |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Name one science fundamentalist. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. who are these scientific fundamentalists? |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I guess it's a bad thing to require proof before one believes |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
55. *crickets* |
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Qibing Zero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
48. You know, I've never met one of these type of people before. |
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Ioo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
19. No |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
20. No |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
22. If it wants to be |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
24. Dobson, Robertson and the like have given fundamentalists a |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
25. What does "religious fundamentalism" mean? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Maybe it should be called inerrantism rather than fundamentalism |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I believe... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. What you said in your original post |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:19 PM Original message |
I've always found the 'inerrancy' thing baffling. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
51. There's another word for their type of worship: bibliolatry |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
54. But |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. That is what I was trying to say -- |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Militantism is a factor as well. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
30. Short answer: No. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Good answers, Dirtbag. |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Yeah, those Amish are a real threat to Democracy |
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belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. If only the RRR were willing to go the way of the Amish, |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I agree 100%, there is a threat |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. How many Amish actually vote? |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Its about nuance, remeber thats our thing |
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belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
38. As citizens, sure. As a basis for government, nope. |
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Qibing Zero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
41. No, and the problem is that it's so widely accepted. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
43. In a Word, NO |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. So, let me get this right... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. These men were not fundamentalists. |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
45. If it isn't |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Not when they try to force me to conform |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. And exactly how are you being "forced to conform?" |
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Qibing Zero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. What would have to happen for democracy to fail? |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
46. Not in a free society |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. So, let me get this right, we are all for freedom... |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
56. I've been wrestling with this the last few days, too |
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StellaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
62. Having spent the past four years in the UK |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Tolerance has difficulty opposing intolerance when it is religious |
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StellaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I wholeheartedly agree with your summation |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
66. No, it's not. |
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