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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:02 PM
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Franklin: I gave Israel secret material
Oct. 6, 2005 0:10 | Updated Oct. 6, 2005 0:26
Franklin: I gave Israel secret material
By NATHAN GUTTMAN
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia


Former Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin admitted in court Wednesday he passed classified information to Israeli diplomat Naor Gilon and to two former AIPAC officials, Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman.

Franklin agreed in court to testify against the two AIPAC officials and to prove that he had indeed passed classified information on to them, and had told them clearly this information was classified.

This was the first time that Israel was explicitly mentioned in the courtroom and that Gilon's name was disclosed. When asked by Judge T.S. Ellis whether he communicated classified information to a foreign official, Franklin replied: "I met occasionally with Naor Gilon from the Israeli embassy."

Adding that he had "assumed the Israeli government has already possessed" the information that Franklin gave Gilon, Franklin told the court that his impression was that Gilon gave him more information than he, Franklin, gave the Israeli official.

MORE
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1128478900053


WHY ISN'T MSM REPORTING THIS? :shrug:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:04 PM
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1. TRAITOR... And solid proof the media is most certainly NOT liberal
a freaking GOP Pentagon insider is a spy for Israel...
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:06 PM
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2. Come on...we all know why the MSM is not reporting this.
Give me a break!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:58 AM
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27. You know and I know too cantstandbush
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 08:59 AM by seemslikeadream
But let's spread the word and have a Merry Christmas in October!





Franklin is co-operating with the prosecution
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4314790.stm














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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:06 PM
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3. So, Franklin did plead guilty today. n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:08 PM
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4. Minimum security country club, er, detention camp, eh?
Guess he won't be rooming with Pollard, then...
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:12 PM
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5. Let this be the first of many
BTW: What is the punishment for treason these days?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:22 PM
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6. Looky here ABC reports only part of the story
He also admitted giving classified information to a political official at the Israeli embassy, but said the information he received from the official was far more valuable than what he gave.


Franklin, of Kearneysville, W.Va., pleaded guilty to two conspiracy counts and a charge of unlawful retention of national defense information. U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III set sentencing for Jan. 20.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1186788


WHY NOT MENTION GILON ABC? :shrug:


NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH? :shrug:
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:39 PM
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14. MSNBC had the same omissions.
No Gilon. No Satterfield. No Pollack.

And there's a spy not named Rove in the White House.

HMMM....
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:30 PM
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7. (Franklin) Plea May Affect Aipac Lobbyists' Cases

Plea May Affect Aipac Lobbyists' Cases<
By FORWARD STAFF AND JTA
October 7, 2005

...


Rosen was Aipac's chief strategist and political enforcer for more than two decades; Weissman was the committee's former Iran specialist. Both were charged with illegally receiving the information and then sharing it with foreign officials and with journalists.

...


"I am having a hard time, Mr. DiGregory, getting over the fact that the defendants can't hear their own statements, and whether that is so fundamental that if it doesn't happen, this case will have to be dismissed," Ellis said. "Have you ever heard of a case where a defendant couldn't have his own statements? I have been on the bench 18 years, with another 20 years before that, and it has never happened."

Prosecutors said the wiretap material was "owned" by various government intelligence agencies and that it was up to those agencies to share the material.

Thomas Reilly, a Justice Department lawyer, invoked the notorious secrecy of the three-judge panel that orders wiretaps under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. He suggested that the sensitivity lay not in what Rosen and Weissman had said but in the party with whom they were speaking.

"It involves FISA-derived electronic surveillance, your honor, of the defendants and third parties," Reilly said.

...

Lowell said in court that he had spoken to lawyers for the foreign officials — apparently the Israelis — and had little hope of calling them for the defense.

...

Aipac's bill for the pair's defense has topped $1 million.

Rosen and Weissman were charged with "conspiracy to communicate national defense information to people not entitled to receive it," which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison. Rosen also is charged with actual communication of national defense information, also punishable by 10 years in prison.

The charges come under the Espionage Act but do not rise to the level of espionage.

The indictment lists charges involving incidents dating back to 1999, and is related to information on Iran and to terrorist attacks in Central Asia and in Saudi Arabia. For a period in 2004, Franklin worked covertly with the government and relayed allegedly classified information to Rosen and Weissman. One charge against the pair accuses them of relaying the information to a foreign official, widely reported to be an Israeli Embassy staffer.


more

http://www.forward.com/articles/4585

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:06 PM
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16. Key Phrase: Charges come under Espionage Act but do not Rise to that Level

(Does that come down to: "Nothing to see here, just move along." :eyes:

The charges come under the Espionage Act but do not rise to the level of espionage.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:45 PM
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8. Spies!!
Analyst Charged With Passing Iran Info: Franklin Turned Self InTo FBI
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1444053
Fieth resigns from Pentagon today
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1186412
Former CIA official looks to leak the truth
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=886884
New Israeli spy probe has a 30-year history, insiders say
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=852863
Israel's Mole Inside the Pentagon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=783161
FBI probes Jewish sway on Bush government
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=802725
Money from Iran Fuels Iraq Insurgency -Rumsfeld
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=810129
Israeli spy nest in the U.S. - Ashcroft says: ’Don’t arrest them!’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=802249
FBI probes DOD office (spy probe widens)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph
p?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=784155
F.B.I said to reach official suspected of passing secrets ....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=786361
Analyst Who Is Target of Probe Went to Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=784792
Knight Ridder:FBI espionage probe goes beyond Israeli allegations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=784274
Pentagon Analyst Was Cooperating When Israel Spy Case Became Public
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=786505
Iran-Contra II? Fresh scrutiny on rogue Pentagon operation -Josh Marshall
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=784906
AIPAC's Overt and Covert Ops
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=788267
UK Express: (Perle) Faces (FBI) Quiz Over Links to Israeli Spy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=785131
Israel Says It Has No Need to Spy on U.S.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=787437
F.B.I. Is Said to Brief Pentagon Bosses on Spy Case; Charges Are Possible
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=788936
LAT: FBI Questions Israeli Lobbyists (AIPAC) in Spying Probe ((Gilon mentioned)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=789576
FBI briefs Wolfowitz on Israeli spy claim
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=790076
F.B.I. Interviews 2 Suspected of Passing Secrets to Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=792950
FBI seizes computer from AIPAC offices
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=791564
Pentagon Office in Spying Case Was Focus of Iran Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795432
Leak Probe More Than 2 Years Old (AIPAC)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795905
AIPAC hires lawyers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794332
Spy probe scans neo-cons' Israel ties (long article from Asia Times)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794029
FBI Informed White House of AIPAC Probe Two Years Ago
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=797181
Alleged Pentagon Leak to Iraqi Is Under Investigation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798060
Serving Two Flags The Bush Neo-Cons and Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=799167
Israeli political advisor may have received U.S. secrets
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795817
Wider FBI Probe Of Pentagon Leaks Includes Chalabi - WaPo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798333
LAT: Israel Has Long Spied on US,Say Officials(but CIA, Mossad "intimate")
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798631
Defense, Cheney Iran Specialists Questioned in (Israeli Spy) Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=801031
Leak Inquiry Includes Iran Experts in Administration (WaPo)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=801678
A Web Of Intrigue Inside the Israel espionage investigation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=803022
Pro-Israel Lobby Has Strong VoiceAIPAC Is Embroiled in Investigation of Pe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=803035
Israel's Mole Inside the Pentagon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=783161
FBI probes possible Pentagon leak to Iraqi exiles
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=805885
Reporters' Files Subpoenaed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=815381
Secrets: Classified Info: Springing a Leak
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x803017
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:29 PM
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9. Gilon, Satterfield and Pollack: their names are on the record now.
The indictment speaks of information garnered from two US government officials and relayed to three foreign officials, understood to be senior Israeli Embassy staffers.

JTA reported that one of the US government officials is David Satterfield, then deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs and now the No. 2 man at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad. The other is Kenneth Pollack, a Clinton-era National Security Council staffer and now an analyst at the Brookings Institution.

One of the Israelis is Gilon, who until this summer was the chief political officer at the embassy.




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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:37 PM
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10. Gilon was pulled
back to Israel. Normal rotation. Right!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:42 PM
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11. NICE OF THE WHITE HOUSE TO RELEASE THE OTHER SPY STORY
AT THE SAME TIME.

WHICH STORY IS GETTING MORE ATTENTION?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:52 PM
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12. Any guesses?
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:14 PM
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13. That makes me sick.
DUers should be smarter than that.

Hello? Where's the beef? The White House kicks out an not-yet-indicted spy not named Rove is a bigger story here than a guilty spy naming names of accomplices in court?!

UNBELIEVABLE!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:45 PM
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21. Pentagon Analyst Pleads Guilty in Spy Case
He also admitted giving classified information to Naor Gilon, a political officer at the Israeli embassy, but said information that he received from Gilon was more valuable.

Franklin, of Kearneysville, W.Va., at one time worked for the Pentagon's No. 3 official, policy undersecretary Douglas Feith, on issues involving Iran and the Middle East.

During Wednesday's hearing, Franklin said he would occasionally be questioned directly by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and former top Pentagon official Paul Wolfowitz on policy issues. For that reason, Franklin said, he sometimes took classified information home with him to keep up with developments. One of the charges to which he pleaded guilty was unlawful retention of classified national defense information

...

An unusual exchange occurred late in the hearing, when Franklin objected to one of the government's allegations against him. Prosecutors told the judge that a one-page document faxed by Franklin to an AIPAC lobbyist was among the classified information he disclosed.
Franklin disputed that, and started to explain that the document was an unclassified "list of murders the Iranian government ..." before he was cut off by prosecutors who said he was about to disclose classified information in open court.

The judge agreed to place that small portion of the court transcript under seal.

...

Rosen, a top lobbyist for Washington-based AIPAC for more than 20 years, and Weissman, the organization's top Iran expert, allegedly disclosed sensitive information as far back as 1999 on a variety of topics, including al-Qaida, terrorist activities in Central Asia, the bombing of Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia and U.S. policy in Iran, according to the indictment.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/05/AR2005100501920.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:32 PM
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22. Wiretap At Heart Of AIPAC Case - Journalists
JTA has learned that one of the U.S. government officials is David Satterfield, then deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs and now the No. 2 man at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad. The other is Kenneth Pollack, a Clinton-era National Security Council staffer and now an analyst at the Brookings Institution.

One of the Israelis is Naor Gilon, who until this summer was the chief political officer at the embassy.

...


Rosen and Weissman also allegedly relayed some of the information in question to journalists at The Washington Post and The Nation magazine. The government may be sensitive about revealing that it wiretapped journalists and Israeli diplomats, some close to the case say.


http://www.jewishtimes.com/News/5089.stm
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:42 AM
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25. It is going
to turn very ugly, very soon. Rosen & Weissman's attorneys are demanding a mistrial, because the prosecution will not turn over all of the records of the taped calls.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:02 PM
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15. Franklin is a piece of the whole pie. n/t
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:51 PM
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17. kick
n/t
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buzzsaw_23 Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:06 PM
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18. The Roaring Silence
Time to rev up the Saddam trial I suppose.

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:11 PM
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19. Franklin "assumed!?!"
Yeah, sure, right. The pile is getting bigger by each passing day.

The Ides of Fitz-(Oc)tober are upon us. Dare we hope!?!

:popcorn:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:07 PM
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20.  Former Pentagon analyst pleads guilty
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 10:13 PM by seemslikeadream
Former Pentagon analyst pleads guilty
Iran specialist gave classified info to Israeli official, group
From Terry Frieden
CNN


Wednesday, October 5, 2005; Posted: 6:42 p.m. EDT (22:42 GMT)


Lawrence A. Franklin outside the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia, Wednesday
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- Former Defense Department analyst Larry Franklin pleaded guilty Wednesday to conspiracy to divulge U.S. defense information to unauthorized people, namely an Israeli official and members of a pro-Israel lobbying group.

Franklin also pleaded guilty to the illegal possession of national defense information.

The 58-year-old said he had taken the documents to his West Virginia home to read them and prepare for questions about them.

He faces between 10 and 15 years in prison and a possible fine. The government agreed to recommend Franklin serve his time at a minimum security facility in Cumberland, Maryland.

Judge T.S. Ellis scheduled sentencing for January 20.

"It was never my intention even for a moment to harm the United States," Franklin told the court.

As part of a plea agreement, the government agreed to drop three other charges involving the sharing of national defense material.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/10/05/pentagon.guilty/
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:55 AM
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23. Maybe my memory is a bit fuzzy, but isn't AIPAC also part of the info that
Sibel Edmonds mentioned as being part of the message translations and information she uncovered? :shrug:

Or am I confusing it with another front group in DC with ulterior motives than what they claim....

In any case, I have a serious hunch and feeling in my gut that all these things connect somewhere....

My, what a tangled web they weave indeed....looks like the web is getting too sticky and catching the perps like flys....
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:24 AM
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24. WHY ISN'T MSM REPORTING THIS?

They did....well at least CBS did. What's a matter - you missed it?

Should have had your Tivo running because CBS ran an ever so brief blip @ 3:34 in the morning on UTTM. It was followed by the 15 year old golfer who's never won an LPGA tournament, and an extremely in-depth piece on Big Brother and privacy rights, and how some Acxiom scumbag absconded with 1.6 B identities and how everybody loves the police cameras all over town, and how everybody's going to have little cams on their glasses that will flash a minority report on anybody you see in public from just a facial scan., and how the genie is out of the bottle and it's all so good and loving.

They left out 2 of those 3 pieces when CBS morning news came on @ 4:00 am.....guess which one they ran with ?

seems this wealthy corporate 15 year old golfer is of utmost importance.

seems like a dream.....
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:43 AM
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26. They are waiting for their spin instructions.
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