AP: Rove to testify again in CIA leak probe (link to story)

[highplainsdem]

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3385346

Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Federal prosecutors have accepted an offer from presidential adviser Karl Rove to give 11th hour testimony in the case of a CIA officer's leaked identity but have warned they cannot guarantee he won't be indicted, according to people directly familiar with the investigation.

The persons, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of grand jury secrecy, said Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has not made any decision yet on whether to file criminal charges against the longtime confidant of President Bush or others.

The U.S. attorney's manual requires prosecutors not to bring witnesses before a grand jury if there is a possibility of future criminal charges unless they are notified in advance that their grand jury testimony can be used against them in a later indictment.

Rove has already made at least three grand jury appearances and his return at this late stage in the investigation is unusual.

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[dalloway]

1. kind of like Bush's DO-OVER with Katrina

You keep coming back until you get it right (or until people stop listening to you b/c they know everything you say is a lie).

[acmejack]

6. Perhaps he has realized how serious of trouble he could be in?

Nah, he'll try to make enough smoke to change their minds...

[moc]

2. As I posted in the other thread, does this mean Rove is

flipping evidence for the prosecutor in an attempt to cut a deal?

[Kingshakabobo]

12. Smells like a deal being made.

Lawrence O'Donnell says they are passing out the target letters as an invitation to squeal.

[ewagner]

3. Give him enough rope...

and he will surely hang himself....remember, he's an arrogant SOB!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[seemslikeadream]

4. they cannot guarantee he won't be indicted

[Beetwasher]

5. Rove: "No, See, What I Really Meant By That Was..."

"No, I think you misunderstand that at the time I said that it was no longer operative and I can see how you might think you understood that I was saying the opposite of what I was truly trying to communicate...What I meant to say was actually the opposite of what you thought it might have been..." Etc.

[grytpype]

7. Read the article CAREFULLY...

It says Rove made this offer to come back in July, and Fitz is just accepting it now, with the warning that what he says can be used against him.

It does not say Rove is actually going to turn up and testify again as promised, he may choose not to do so given the circumstances.

[Mr_Spock]

22. Interesting.

I'm always looking for the facts as extracted by the people who actually read for content here - good observation... :D

[Jackpine Radical]

8. My bet is that something like the following course of events transpired:

1) On previous occasions, Rove lied to the Grand Jury
2) Rove's story has fallen apart
3) Rove got a "target" letter essentially giving him a chance to make a deal. Since no indictment has yet been issued, Fitz still has a lot of latitude on the contents of the deal.
4) Rove thought it over & decided he was gonna save his own fat ass by flipping.
5) Fitz accepted Rove's deal & is bringing him back for another command performance, at which Rove will give testimony implicating...guess who.

[moc]

9. #5 = oh please oh please oh please oh please

This would be my deepest wish!

:bounce:

[wurzel]

10. Rove : "I must now reluctantly tell you the truth. Clinton did it"!

[Jackpine Radical]

14. If he says that, his sentence will end in a sentence...

if you take my meaning. The kind of sentence that begins with the dismaying clang of a steel door slamming shut.

[Kelvin Mace]

11. Key sentences

The U.S. attorney's manual requires prosecutors not to bring witnesses before a grand jury if there is a possibility of future criminal charges unless they are notified in advance that their grand jury testimony can be used against them in a later indictment.

"I can say categorically that Karl has not received a target letter from the special counsel. The special counsel has confirmed that he has not made any charging decisions in respect to Karl," Luskin said.

Somebody's lying.

Unless Karl got a letter, he can't tesify. The source says he COULD be indicted, but Luskin says Rove didn't get a letter.

Or am I missing something?

[highplainsdem]

13. CNN's Bob Franken reporting just now that Luskin's still saying there was

no target letter.

[suffragette]

15. Different letter

From the article:

Rove offered in July to return to the grand jury for additional testimony and Fitzgerald accepted that offer Friday after taking grand jury testimony from the formerly jailed New York Times reporter Judith Miller.

Before accepting the offer, Fitzgerald sent correspondence to Rove's legal team making clear that there was no guarantee he wouldn't be indicted at a later point as required by the rules.

Interesting that Fitzgerald accepted the offer Friday and it's Thursday now.

[Just Me]

19. Um, splitting hairs? Fitz's notice constitutes a "target" letter,...

,...since it specifically makes clear that Rove may still be indicted.

Fitz requested Rove return to the GJ. Rove offered in July to give further testimony. Fitz accepted the offer, sending a notice that Rove is still subject to indictment.

"Target" notification kinda' like works that way.

[suffragette]

21. Good point

Maybe that could be a way Rove's lawyer could weasel out of saying Rove received a target letter.
Since I'm no lawyer, I don't know the technicalities about these letters and was just pointing out what the article said.
In either case, I think Fitz is playing some calculated cards in the time and the way he wants and that he has the upper hand - would love to see a royal flush.

[FreedomAngel82]

16. Interesting

I'm still not getting my hopes up though until he's off to jail and I see it with my own eyes.

[LibertyLou]

17. He is WEAK, and trying to negotiate to AVOID INDICTMENT...

Fundamentally, mentally, he is weak. He likes to envision he is tough, but at heart he's a coward. Truly.

Now that he realizes he's in the crosshairs, he's still trying to negotiate.

Waah, waah.

Tell it to the judge, a-hole. You are a traitor mofo.

[highplainsdem]

18. CNN's Dana Bash, re Scooter Libby, said Libby's attorney is not returning

calls any more, after being willing to comment earlier.

[LibertyLou]

20. Well, then, perhaps Rove became willing to push Scooter out of the boat

[Mr_Spock]

23. ...and under the bus?

:D