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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:06 PM
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Jeanne Meserve on CNN is saying that sources tell her the NYC alert
is hooey, that the source is "Known as unreliable"
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:07 PM
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1. Dan Abrams reported the same thing
"The source" must be Karl Rove.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/658010
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:15 PM
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26. Ooh... Ah... Bright, shiny object!
Bushco must have a list of stuff to pull out during low-ratings and ethical dilemmas (like it's not all of the time). I have to tell you that when I hear, "The public has to make up their own minds about this threat" and "We cannot corroborate any of it"...uh...I'm gonna have to go with, "YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!!"
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:37 PM
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38. Shake the keys in front of the baby!!! Lookee here!
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:20 PM
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28. "back to the Rove story" Yay Dan Abrams! n/t
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:32 PM
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34. good-could it be they are actually fighting back?!! amazing
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:52 PM
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40. Danny boy is a repig, so if he is saying it!
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:07 PM
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2. surprise, surprise.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:08 PM
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4. kick n/t
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:07 PM
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3. But, it took the wind out of reports of
Rover's possible indictment, yah?

Mission accomplished.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:09 PM
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6. Maybe for a news cycle but thats all imo.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:08 PM
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5. did he look like this?


He's been known to make threats of terrorism. Er...to pass on threat related intelligence, that is.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:09 PM
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7. yes, that must be "Curveball" Worst source ever.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:12 PM
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20. Nope it's the 'Explod-o-baby' new from Mattel..batteries sold separately
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:32 PM
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35. roflmao
comes with baby carriage
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:08 PM
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31. Did he look like this?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:09 PM
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8. Suffering phoney warnings is part of the cost of the war on terror
Cheney promises decades of this sort of treatment.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:09 PM
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9. Didn't they do this once before in NYC? Got away with it why not do it
again?
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:10 PM
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10. They did the same thing to Gov. Davis California
I remember when Governor Davis issued alerts for the bridges and when he did Homeland Security came out and said "No credible Threat" making Davis out as a looney tune. We know what this is about, getting the press off of Rove.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:35 PM
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30. That is what Randi said happened here
she said DHS told MSM that they didn't know where Bloomy got this from.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:34 PM
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48. When? I listened to Randi around 4:45 tonight and
she was saying that although * might make up shit like this, that New York did not - so it must be serious. She was sounding determined (I will take the subway tonight) but Jenny is going home in a cab. She sounded seriously worried.

What did I miss?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:53 PM
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53. I wasn't listening that early
but she had heard that DHS told MSM that they didn't think it was credible. At about the same time MSM switched back to the Rove discussion.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:10 PM
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54. Wow - Well my hat is off to Randi for making the sharp turn -
amazing that she would cover the DHS dismissal of the threat so quickly after airing Bloomberg's conference and sounding very serious afterwards.

:kick:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:10 PM
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11. They're finally admitting this?
Wow.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:10 PM
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12. "Known and unreliable"?
Could be any member of the bush admin.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:10 PM
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13. You mean George Bush? Dick Cheney? George Tenet? Rice?
George Bush? Dick Cheney? George Tenet? Rice? Rumsfeld?

Which unreliable source are we talking about? :)
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:10 PM
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14. Yes, the unreliable source is called BushCo
You would think CNN would learn this lesson one of these days, but like Charlie Brown, Lucy, and the football, they fall for it over and over again.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:10 PM
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15. maybe its judy judy judy since shes out of jail and free to wreak havoc.nt
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:13 PM
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23. She's coming back to life as the aspens turn...
To everything turn turn turn
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:11 PM
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16. Remember after the Democratic convention ended - same crap -
a false alert based on years old info

hell, even ol' color-code ridge said many alerts were bulls**t after he left, didn't he?
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:11 PM
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17. Kelly Arena's saying she's hearing the same thing from her FBI sources.
The threat "wasn't credible."
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:11 PM
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18. Just more of that "unreliable, bogus intelligence" that they blame
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 05:11 PM by SoCalDem
EVERYTHING on..What a bunch of nut cases are in charge:(
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:12 PM
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19. Just on, FBI and CIA jointly broke this case. And that NYC is having
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 05:12 PM by Verve
difficulty getting along with Homeland Security on this matter. (CNN)

Hmmm? Could it be that NYC is saying you guys are full of sh*t?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:13 PM
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21. Well. Are you telling me the media is actually doing its job?!?!?!
:wow:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:13 PM
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22. Well then I wish she'd tell Leslie that.........
the asshole is spinning around like a top and I think he's going to soil his undershorts very soon. Please, SOMEONE tell Leslie it's a bunch of bullshit, the guy's going to explode! :eyes:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:13 PM
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24. I can confirm today's terror alert as being credible.
Not the one in NY, but the one you've all identified as coming out of DC.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:13 PM
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25. Interesting - Katrina effect - MSM now questioning what this
administration spews! Hope that this is definitely a new attitude among at least some journalists. Too bad they didn't figure this out last year when Bush and Rove pulled this crap during the campaign to take any momentum away from Kerry and to boost their daddy-will-protect you stance.

BTW, I was just reading Joshua Micah Marshall - he calls Rove tadpole-on-deck. Hope he grow in to a frog just in time to take that march out of the WH Joe Wilson pictured.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:20 PM
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27. Coincidence?
That the terror alert for NY Subways coincides with Karl Rove getting a "target" letter?

Could it be that we're not supposed to pay attention to the real terrorists--the ones in the White House?

I'm bummed at the timing since I'm leaving for a long weekend in NYCtomorrow and was planning to take the subway from Penn Station uptown to my hotel. Guess I'll spring for a taxi rather than have NY's finest rooting through my suitcase.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:30 PM
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33. Dorothy don't look at that man behind the curtain ... (nt)
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:33 PM
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29. Curve Ball? Maybe Chalabi?
:)
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:29 PM
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32. Chaney?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:33 PM
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36. Maybe so...
but then why do all the CNN headlines cite a "credible threat"? It's for better ratings, and better cover for the real threat - to Rove, Bush, Libby, Cheney, etc.

Hooey, indeed.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:35 PM
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37. chimpsrsmarter, thanks for posting this. This is significant! News people
actually showing spine.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:42 PM
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39. Yes, Jeanne Meserve was very good during Katrina, she seems
pretty reliable.
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:03 PM
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41. It's Like Kiving in the Soviet Union...
The only thing we know for sure is that *nothing* the government says about *anything* can be believed. It makes the LBJ/Nixon years look like Utopia...good christ. I truly never believed we'd come to this...
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:09 PM
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42. Why would the Repugs hang Bloomberg out to dry?
I could see them wanting to make a Democrat look like an ass but a popular Republican up for reelection in a city where Bush's approval ratings rival Bin Laden's?

Could it be that Department of Homeland Security are showing the sort of competence and energy they showed before, during and after Hurricane Katrina.

Is Bloomberg reaching for his Rudy Guiliani moment?

If BUSHCO had made this up wouldn't someone have told Chertoff?

I just don't get this.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:14 PM
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43. Jeanne Meserve Rocks ...
I opted to open this thread because my initial thought was that if Jeanne Meserve reports it she BELIEVES it to be true.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:20 PM
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44. Ah then the source is the department of homeland security I presume?
;)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:21 PM
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45. she wouldn't say but she had quite a nsarky look on her face.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:21 PM
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46. The boy who cried wolf.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:29 PM
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47. So it looks like NYC subways will be bombed if Fitzgerald indicts...
in the Plame case, is that what they're leading us to believe ?
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:35 PM
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49. Yeah, I Bet the "Source" Was Rove
I'm sick of the fact that whenever * is in trouble, the terrorist threats come along like clockwork. The American people are being played for fools by these neocon jerks. I definitely don't like being played for a fool.:mad:

Tammy
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:37 PM
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50. Jeanne has finally seen the light!
She has been so pissed since hearing people die in NO. She is a new woman and a new reporter as well!

:)
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:38 PM
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51. Unreliable sources & Karl Rove
I knew it! I was watching ABC News this evening, and the stories went: 1. Subway scare 2. Bush speech. 3.Phillipine spy, 4. then one brief statement about Rove testifying again today. It seemed suspicious how this "subway terror" story so conveniently developed the same day Bush was giving a speech on terror, & exactly in time for the evening news. It basically gives weight to Bush's speech about the danger of terrorism from Iraq, pushes Rove off the headlines, and helps undercut the Senate's vote today to limit how suspects can be questioned. This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Has anyone ever heard of Iraqi insurgents plotting attacks in New York before? It bothers me that even as the ABC reporter was saying the story was "unsourced," they still used it as the lead. Why does the media let itself be used this way? For that matter, why would New York City?
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:25 PM
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52. Ed Schultz said Congressman Pete King of NY said the threat was
viable. When he said "Pete King," I knew it was bullshit.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:45 AM
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55. Keith Olbermann and Craig Crawford saying the same thing on
Countdown tonight; part of a pattern. Whenever Chimpy and/or his handlers/minions are under the gun, they try the diversionary tactic of "Oh LOOK! a TERRA 'LERT!"
Serve them right if by coincidence we WERE hit with another attack...make the little fucker shut up about us all being safer because of his filthy little war on Iraq.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:41 PM
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56. Curveball?
More like someone else trying to do KKKarl's job, but really bad at it.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:11 PM
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57. Ah I see, it appears as if their crackhead, stooly informer was just...
jonesing for money for another fix.

crackhead: yeah, yeah, I know something but you got to get me good again

fed: give him his money

crackhead: oh yes, now where were we? That's right, there will be an attack, um, tomorrow, yeah that's right, tomorrow.

fed: where!

crackhead: um, where huh, well now that will require a pick me up...

fed: give it to him, now where!

crackhead: oh you know that place...um (eyes dart back and forht)...down the...streeeet, that's it, you know, sometimes they have people....Lot's of people...um,...

fed: he doesn't know anything

crackhead: (Blurts) the subway! yes, they are going after several of them all at once, yeeeeah, that's it...

fed: let's roll!!

the feds bolt from the room leaving a trail of flying papers in their wake.

crackhead: damn these guys are the best suppliers I have ever had.

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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:15 PM
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58. Meanwhile, they just closed the 50th street subway station
Suspicious package on the rails. Why is the city freaking out and Washington saying it's bullshit?

I don't get it.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:15 PM
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59. It wouldn't surprise me if * et all had DHS gave them bad info
just to distract from Rove.

Not like it wouldn't be their style.
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