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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:24 AM Original message |
The Truth about Female Genital Mutilation |
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Oerdin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. It is mainly muslims. |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. You are WRONG. It is being practized by Christians, Jews, |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. FGM is no longer practices by Jews |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. I know about Israel. While it is forbidden in Ethiopia and |
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mikefromwichita (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
96. Would you................... |
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mikefromwichita (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:55 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. oh hell I will do it myself |
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retread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Did I miss the "numbers" you posted? |
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mikefromwichita (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #98 |
110. the numbers are in the LINK |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
38. Incorrect. it has existed culturally in Africa since long before |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. Religions pick up all kinds of cultural norms. If Islam is propagating |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. "Islam" is NOT propagating it. Educate yourself. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
88. Islam in parts of the world does. In many Islamic places - they do not |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:18 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. So why don't you be accurate instead of stereotyping? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
89. Islam in parts of the world does. In many Islamic places - they do not |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. Good point, but |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. As a Muslim I agree |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. You mean SECULAR cultures. |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. No, I mean cultures. Period |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. They used to exist, not long ago. They went the way of the Tasmanian wolf. |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Well, duh. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I thought we were talking about what makes a civilized society civilized. |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. secularism? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. So Christianity championed women's rights? Fought slavery? |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. You obviously do not have a working knowledge of Christian |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. What "propaganda" do you suppose I read? (nt) |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Don't know . but who started the anti slavery movement in this country?? |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. slave trade was run by and for white christians nt |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. SNAP! |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
39. I could say that nearly 100% of the country declared itself Christian back |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Well, except for all those fucking deists, right? n/t |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
41. So is it your contention that all of the slaveholders of the south were |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. *crickets* |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Hehehe, come to think of it, didn't the KKK who brand themselves |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:07 AM Response to Reply #50 |
94. Yeah, but they put sugar in their porridge. |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
60. Agree FGM is Wrong ---- No matter what is used to justify it. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. FGM is a REGIONAL practice, not confined to any one religion |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Muslims don't educate their women ! |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Funny you left out Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia and the other |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:33 AM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Secondary Saudi schools.... |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Applause. I had wanted to compile that. |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
95. Have to step in here. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
10. "frequency and urgency" would |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Because religion does not allow it |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. All the more reason |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
11. A physician in the US did this to my Aunt about 30 years ago.. |
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patricia92243 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
15. Two year old masturbating?? Who taught her that? Sounds like a case of |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Young children masturbating is very common |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Young kids are always doing that |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Huh? Nobody needs to be taught masturbation. I t comes |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
21. FMG is actually in Norwegian media a lot. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. And the Norwegians can't prosecute the parents? (nt) |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:49 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Is it against the law? |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. As far as I know it's forbidden all over Europe. |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. Then hopefully the media attention |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 04:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
90. They can, but we need to refine the laws. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:05 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. How does Sweden do? (nt) |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
30. but it is OK to mutilate boys in the name of religion |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
84. How is this WOMEN getting revenge on men? |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
100. I find ALL genital cutting of children to be very disturbing. |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
36. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Jesus H. Q. Rhyste on a pink yellow-polkadotted nuclear powered pogo stick |
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I second that emotion |
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nvliberal (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Male circumcision and female circumcision aren't the same |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. How is mutilating the male |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. There is a slight difference in that a circumsized male can still |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
86. There is a huge difference |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. Well, for one, you still have external sexual organs. |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Circumcision should not be minimized |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I have researched it, and sorry, there is no comparison. |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I doubt you have really researched it |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Why do you assume that I've never researched the matter in the past? |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Gosh, I supplied a link that showed |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 05:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Sorry, but any link that says that cutting off of all external sexual |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. There are different types of FGM; infibulation would be more comparable... |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 04:53 AM Response to Reply #79 |
91. Not to mention the danger of the infibulation |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #73 |
102. Actually, in the third world countries where FGM occurs |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Nice job of putting words in my mouth. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:02 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. I don't know what words you think I put in your mouth. |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #102 |
109. According to Amnesty Int'l... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
87. You may have researched it, but you're wrong |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
85. There si a HUGE difference saying there isn't just shows |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #46 |
101. Actually, there are many degrees of FGM. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:45 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Then Don't Have Your Male Children Circumcized |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I don't plan to. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. If You Find The Two Practices Equivalent.... |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. There are certain types of female cutting |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. It isn't good for the 'goose or the gander'... |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I wonder if there is direct correlation |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. No, because it was nearly universal during the baby boomer generation |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I don't think it was nearly universal among the boomers |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. The birthing process itself can be considered traumatic for an infant... |
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Qibing Zero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. While I'm not sure it's always the mothers... |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. True, some fathers insist on it for their sons |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. When I had my sons |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. i read that dads have the bigger role in the decision.... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. I Was Circumcized At Birth |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Oh, you poor man |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. Hmmmm |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #80 |
111. Circumcision may offer Africa AIDS hope |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Thank You... |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. I am doing an informal research |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 07:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. A Greater Correlation |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. Was it part of a ceremony of making you a Democratsincebirth? |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
69. smeggle? |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Thank you |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 07:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. Are You Sure He's Referring To Smegma.. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
113. How Is It Voluntary? |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
42. Info from Amnesty Int'l on FGM... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
53. Genital Mutilation occurs quite frequently in the USA |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
55. Genital mutilation is common to many cultures,... |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Yes, it should all be considered barbaric and unacceptable, IMO n/t |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
83. I don't care who practices it. It sucks. Period. |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #83 |
99. Agreed. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #83 |
114. Thank you |
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