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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:10 PM Original message |
How do I counter the "war is good for the economy" crowd. |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, we're at war right now, and the economy sucks. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I'm sure they're going to say that we haven't fully committed. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Fully committed or bigger war won't help when corporations outsourced |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. The state of the economy's the counter-argument. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Maybe they'll say we need a bigger war? |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. War Is Good For The Economy If It Is Paid For. |
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loveable liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. Peace is good for people? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. It only was back in WWII and the Civil War because gov. spending |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
8. carry enlistment papers with you |
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hobo_baggins (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. for starters amassing large amounts of debt is never good for the economy |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
59. Hi hobo_baggins!! |
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I Have A Dream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm not agreeing with their argument that war is good for... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. They don't actually fight in the wars, but they have made a great |
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I Have A Dream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. In my opinion, I don't know how anyone can ever support a war without... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
51. self-delete |
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GAspnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. "So is burning down a city a month, but it's not really practical" |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. I'd like to hear those reasons! |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. IMO Two words: National Debt. 'nuff said... nt |
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firefox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. "Well is there any thing else stupid you want to say" |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. If they're Lockheed employees, give up. War *is* good for *their* |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. The word for those kinds of people is "Republican." |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. "How much money do you get every time a mothers son soldier dies..??" |
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maine_raptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. Two points to use |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. 300 million of us |
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maine_raptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Oops |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. well |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
18. a lot of folks think they are losing jobs because of affirmative action |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
20. When Faced By War Mongers -- I Just Say It's Wrong To Kill People |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. Ask them how much it costs to fill their gas tanks |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
24. Ask them, why should our economy depend on |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. What about Vietnam? |
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Loge23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
26. China |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. The older Republicans do believe we have to exterminate |
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LonelyLRLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. Are they willing to send their own children and grandchildren to fight? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. You're right that reasoning does not work for this kind of person, |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. Don't. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. I try to role play when I'm alone in the house and try to imagine |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:43 PM Original message |
Start wearing a helmet whenever you have to mix with them. |
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VPStoltz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
31. Why bother? Those types would never admit that the Iraq war, as well as... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:38 PM Original message |
I've been able to whittle down my exposure to them to 3 hours |
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VPStoltz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
63. I know how you feel. I have a brother, Viet vet - fucked up, whom I |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
33. Gas, food, consumer goods at all time high, wages don't keep pace |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
34. War makes gas cost more. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
35. I would fake an illness. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. We're taking two cars so I can sneak out when it gets too |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
36. War is always good... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. We should have been paying closer attention to see how these |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Has there ever been peace time? |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
37. Can I kill you if it makes me richer? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Your last paragraph says it all. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 07:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
64. YES. We could have an immoral invasion and war, as long as it was "easy", |
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I Have A Dream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Great post, MM! |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. If it's the slightest bit credible |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
41. War is good for the economy but it's bad for society. n/t |
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orwell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. Simple |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
45. Point by Point: |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
46. Spending by the government does create jobs |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. Amen. |
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housewolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
50. You talk about the morality (or rather the immorality) of ... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
52. I've bookmarked this page. THANKS EVERYONE! |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
54. Putting the same amount of money into rebuilding our country's |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
55. Id' say: "I'll say a prayer for you tonight" |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
56. It's blood money |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
57. It's an outdated argument |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
58. Read Zinn's chapter in "People's History of the US" called |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
60. The Myth of the War Economy by Joseph Stiglitz |
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iamahaingttta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
61. Why don't you just tell them... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
62. Simple: ANY massive national undertaking is good for the economy - |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
65. While war might be "good" for the short term economy, |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
66. Slavery would be good for the economy also |
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Miss Chybil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
67. Ask them, if they'll let you shoot them a few times, so you can buy more |
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cry baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
68. Economy was good during Clinton years, we weren't at war! nt |
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MODemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
70. Ask them to explain to you why war is good for the economy |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
71. Agree.It is good. Then tell them that the good times are going to.. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
72. Any government spending will help the economy out. It could be government |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
73. Can't Lockhead's expertise be redirected to other areas like aviation and |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
74. Are they using that argument as a justification for the Iraq war? |
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