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romantico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:29 AM
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Latest Rumor: Arnold plans on becoming a Democrat by Nov.2004
A radio host this morning claims this is the talk of the town.Said this is why Maria & the Kennedy's supported him. From what I've heard & read, I DOUBT Arnold will betray his new masters who helped him win in the first place.Anyone hear this?Trying to figure out Who is saying it & where it all began.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:31 AM
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1. I don't think its far fetched. . .
. . .I think it would be funny as hell.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 02:29 PM
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37. Wow - this is a great Republican strategy by Schwartzenegger
Keep them in limbo. And if more news is discovered about the whole electronic voting problem, well, I just start a rumor that I MAY switch to the Democratic party.

WAKE UP PEOPLE - HE ISNT CHANGING ANYTHING.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:31 AM
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2. Unlikely....
They'd just recall him.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:34 AM
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7. They need 25% of the record amount of voters who voted
Tuesday to recall Ah-nuld. He ain't going nowhere until the next election.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:51 AM
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20. That's hardly a daunting number
I've gotten more sigs than that before.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RecallArnold/
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:52 PM
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31. they need 12% kahuna
thats how they got Davis
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 02:04 PM
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36. We need 90 days then
The honeymoom will be over. It's surprises me how many Dems are wringing their hands and saying Arnold is so popular and ain't going anywhere. Yeah and Bush is as popular as he was on the day after 9/11.


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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:29 PM
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46. Nope,try 12% 40% needed here in Kansas....n/t
...
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:32 AM
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3. It wouldn't surprise me...
The die-hard conservative only support him because of the (R) in front of his name.

He won't do anything for them on issues conservatives hate.

So this wouldn't surprise me, though I don't see it actually happening.
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:33 AM
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4. he can
go to hell. this democrat doesn't want his filthy presence in the party. :evilfrown:
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:34 AM
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9. I was just going to send something similar. Thank you. We don't want him
n/t
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:33 AM
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5. If he does, I'm not voting for him
There is a limit to my rank and file status, and Ahnold is one of them.
And what good will it do for him to switch for the election? :shrug:
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:39 PM
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26. You're a Yankee fan in California?
Signed,

New Yorker
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:34 AM
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6. What I would rather see
is arnold stay a republican but endorse the Democratic candidate for president.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:35 AM
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10. Richard Roirdan Endorsed Clinton
I think he's one of the good guys...
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:34 AM
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8. He might as well ...
since by Nov. 2004, he will either have resigned or been recalled.

Cheers
Drifter
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:36 AM
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11. If they're doing this, it makes me worry that they have som serious RW...
...plans for CA.

While they're ripping off CALPERS, and shifting the tax burden, and making life very easy for the huge media corporations which campaigned for Arnold, they'll have you thinking, hey, maybe he's really a Democratic.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:36 AM
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12. I honestly don't believe this
He has been an outspoken Republican for years--even while married to Maria Shriver. I don't think this will happen. I'm not even sure I want that Groper in the Democratic party.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:40 AM
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13. I DON'T WANT HIM AS A DEMOCRAT
HE IS A F***ING DISGRACE
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:55 PM
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33. I agree but...
It would be funny to watch all the freeper heads explode. I would take him just for that. :evilgrin:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:44 AM
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14. Arnie had a demochip implanted from the get go of his marraige to kennedy
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 09:52 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
Arnold is a democratic "strategery" ;-)...we have finnally learned how to play the rethuglican game. it will just take the repukes a tad longer than the average moron to figure it out
:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

yeah collie-4orn-knee-a
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dofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 10:58 AM
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15. That's just plain silly.
He's been a Republican forever, openly, unabashedly, and cheerfully Republican.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:03 PM
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41. Agree
Just a rumor.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:02 AM
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16. Then why is pete wilson running his entire show in Sacramento?
Pete is doing ALLLLL the hiring and firing for the transition team.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:28 AM
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17. OMG! I posted this SAME theory about 2 weeks ago. I thought
that Maria probably said to Arnold "Hey, you can run and I will support you, but later on you WILL switch to the Democratic Party." She knew all the scandals would come out, so why would she go along w/ this?

BTW, no one commented on my post (it was part of a thread) and my husband doesn't think it will happen/
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Zgrrl Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:36 AM
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18. Nah...
Maria and her mom were supportive of his campaign, but I wouldn't say "the Kennedys" supported him. Uncle Teddy was silent, as were the rest of 'em. I agree with Romantico that Ahnuld probably would not betray his "new masters."

And, as most people have said on this thread...

We don't want him! The tent isn't big enough for those pectorals (or that ego).
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:39 AM
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19. Nope. I don't believe that at all.
He's in love with the repuklican party. He was at their convention in 1992 here in Houston.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:53 AM
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21. We don't want the nasty little boor.
We already have enough problematic people in the party (Let's face it, we're not all saints). Stay away, Mr. Vulgarity!
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:53 AM
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22. You believe a radio host?
Either the radio host is making it up, or is being fed info from the Schwarzenegger camp. In either case, the info is not credible.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:02 PM
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23. Sounds like a meme created to quiet us down n/t
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:43 PM
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28. That's a meme that would push me out o f the
Democratic Party for sure. These days I'm hanging by a thread. Would never become a member of the R party, and can't quite embrace the Green party with any degree enthusiasm.

This party cannot expect to resurge if it continues to do things the R way. I want the DLC gone. I want a populist who understands ordinary people. I'm sick of unprincipled hacks on this side as much as any the Rs have to offer.

Believe me, I feeling pretty disheartened.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:24 PM
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24. Ah-nold as Trojan Horse? I can see it.
I was thinking this myself just yesterday. It would be the perfect way to fuck with the Dem mindset. Consider:

1. the groping problem becomes a Dem problem, not an Ah-nold problem. He figures Dems will drop the issue because he's now on "their side," and it will give repigs a chance to use the occasional "of course he's a Dem now...he's a sexual predator just like Clinton" line.

2. Ah-nold says he's a Dem so the CA legislature will work with him. Of course, he's a Zell Miller Dem at best.

3. He still ends up endorsing bush in '04, "party labels mean nuh-ting to me...Ah vote for da man...you should, too!"

4. The repigs shrug it off - "it was never about getting a repig in, it was about getting rid of Gray Davis (who just happens to have been a very visible, lifelong Dem in a heavily Dem state). We're just happy Gray is gone. Ah-nold can be whatever he wants to be. That's what we repigs are alll about!"

5. It gives the repigs a chance to vilify the CA legislature, setting them up for a repig takeover in '04. "Those CA Dems are so against the will of the people, they can't work with the man of the people (Ah-nold) even when he joins their party. Time to throw them out and put in more repigs (hello, redistricting!). Ah-nold is Ah-nold, but these Dems are the spawn of Satan."

And so it goes...
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:37 PM
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25. Boy....that'd put me in a bind!
:shrug:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:42 PM
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From what has been reported here regarding his agenda
I would say he isn't leaning in that direction. Why didn't he run as a Democrat then? Didn't he think he could get elected in Cally fornia as a Democrat? Sounds like crap to me.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:32 PM
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29. But did he run AGAINST the Dems
or against Gray Davis? Had he vilified the CA Dems, I would say no way he switches parties. But I think he ran against Davis and politics-as-usual. What do you think?
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:42 PM
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27. Reminds me of William "Bill" Markham in FL - what's the point?
The policy, platform and personality are the same- it's purely opportunistic.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:46 PM
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30. Republicans are more worried than Democrats
There's a woman caller on Limbaugh asking, "If we were concerned that Teddy Kennedy coauthored Bush's education policy, how will we feel when the Kennedys start writing the national platform of the RNC?"
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:53 PM
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32. I've been saying this on DU since August
Vindicated at last!

--bkl
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:56 PM
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34. I'll believe it when I see it and not before
No way Arnie goes with the Dems, who cannot promise him the 2017 Emperorship that the Busheviks will give him.

They need an Emperor I'm-a-Bushevik-but-my-name-ain't-Bush-so-stop-saying-we're-a-hereditary-Empire. Especially in 2017 after the reign of Emperor Jeb makes it an even 16 years of Bushevik horror.

They need a "liberal" Republican (Arnie will do as Pete Wilson tells him, more or less, because he has no fucking idea about governing) to distance themselves and Arnie will function as Raygun did, a nice, stupid propr behind which they can continue their Ops unabated.
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TheBlob Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 02:03 PM
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35. Wow - I predicted this rumor last night!
Last night on the news here in NYC, Caroline Kennedy was asked about Arnold and his Republicanism, and Caroline - ever the diplomat - smiled that beautiful smile of hers and said (somewhat tongue in cheek) "We're working on him."

I knew right then and there someone would take that ball and run with it.

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 02:35 PM
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38. Caroline Kennedy
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 02:44 PM by ronnykmarshall
More and more she looks and carries herself like her beautiful mother. *sigh*

I wish the rest of her family were still with us.
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TheBlob Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 02:51 PM
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39. So do I.
"I wish the rest of her family were still with us"

I'll go to my grave knowing deep in my heart that JFK Jr's death was one of the best things that ever happened to the Republican party.

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:00 PM
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40. Political affiliation won't be important in prison.
.
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mkregel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:04 PM
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42. Strangely enough I heard this
And it has to do with the Kennedy tie in. The rumor I heard was that he would run in the recall as a Repub with Kennedy support, then sometime during his admin switch to Dem as a payback to the Kennedys.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:07 PM
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43. SchwarzeNazi is not welcome in the Democratic party.
NT!

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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:16 PM
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44. I seriously doubt he will switch
to Dem, maybe Independent later on possibly, but then right now I doubt that too. After seeing what is really going on in that state maybe Arnie will have a conscious and do some things that will really help the people. Miracles happen everyday.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:17 PM
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45. I could see him an indy.
But he is not welcome in Democratic Party. I sure a hell won't be baking him a cake.
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HitmanLV Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 02:20 AM
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47. Fantasyland....
...it would have been easier for him to run as the 'mad as hell' dem in the recall election than pull a stunt like that.
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