Pab Sungenis
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Thu Oct-09-03 10:14 AM
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Diebold irregularities in California - benefitted whom? |
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There was a thread on here last night from Mark Crispin Miller about noted irregularities in the Diebold Counties of California, where "fringe" candidates did better percentage-wise than in the non-Diebold counties.
My question is: what party affiliation was listed for those candidates who allegedly benefitted from the Diebold black box?
My theory in BBV (which I've never expressed openly because it sounds like a nutcase conspiracy theory) is that a certain percentage of votes for candidates designated as Democrats are redistributed by the machines. A certain, small percentage would go to any "Green" candidates on the ballot. The rest would be distributed amongst Republican affiliated candidates.
Well, California's ballot this week was unique. There were TONS of Republicans.
So my question is this: did any of the Democratic fringe candidates do "unexpectedly well" in Diebold counties? Or only Republican fringe candidates? If Camejo, Ueberroth, McClintock, and the Republican fringe candidates all did "unexpectedly well" and the Democratic fringe candidates tanked, I think we've got at least a whiff of a smoking gun here. Probably not enough to overturn Ahnold, but at least enough to stop these machines, and maybe give us justification for a second recall.
Who has the breakdowns handy? And who can match them up with party affiliation?
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GregD
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Thu Oct-09-03 10:19 AM
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http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/gov/00.htmBut the way it is layed out is a bitch. Would help if all the county breakdowns were on one page for comparison purposes.
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Thu Oct-09-03 10:22 AM
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2. I'm still trying to tally Diebold results-FL'00 |
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A remarkable exchange concerning Diebold's voting machines in Volusia County, Florida: On January 17, 2001, Lana Hines, a county elections official sends out an inquiry as to how Al Gore ended up with a vote-count of -16,022. That's NEGATIVE 16,022 -- which just happens also to have been the total number of votes cast for various independent and third-party candidates who also ran. (It was the largest number of such votes cast in Volusia County's history.)
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Thu Oct-09-03 10:26 AM
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3. Click on County Status (on that page) |
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to see the breakdown by counties Or click here: http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/status.htm
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greenwow
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Thu Oct-09-03 12:14 PM
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4. I don't think Diebold is clever enough to pull that off. |
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I've worked on a few projects with them, and their engineers are absolute and total morons. I could easily see them screwing-up their software, and I've seen personally seen them screw-up plenty of it. The best job I ever had came to an end when my employer was put out of business due to lawsuits from several major screw-ups with Diebold's bill paying terminals. Another good job I had came to an end after several major screw-ups by Diebold's magcard-based cash replacement system we installed at a local college. I can't imagine them pulling-off a scam that requires a little thinking and a lot of keeping their mouth's shut. No, the idiots could never pull that off.
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Thu Oct-09-03 12:22 PM
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The issue is whether someone with access to the machines or central computers could modify the Diebold system somehow.
If Diebold design is indeed flawed that might make it easier for rigging to be done, but not by Diebold employees themselves.
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