Anti Defamation League dismisses charges of Prescott Bush ties to Nazis

[jjmalonejr]

http://www.adl.org/Internet_Rumors/prescott.htm

Rumors about the alleged Nazi "ties" of the late Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, have circulated widely through the Internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated.

Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.

[Postman]

1. But he WAS a fascist and a fascist sympathizer...

n/t

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. You are either with us, or you are with the

terrorists... or so it has been said.. this sort of thing happens more often than we care to know.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/042403A.shtml
US Companies Quietly Caught Trading with the Enemy Commentary: U.S. Companies Risk Only a Wrist Slap
By Rex Nutting
CBS.MarketWatch.com

Tuesday 15 April 2003

When individual Americans are accused of helping terrorists, they're thrown in jail and their names are dragged through the mud. But when major U.S. corporations are caught trading with the enemy, they get just a slap on the wrist from the government.

WASHINGTON -- In the past two weeks, the government has revealed that 57 companies and organizations have been fined for doing business with terrorists, despots and tyrants.

However, neither the government nor the companies are forthcoming with the public about the details of the illicit trade with rogue governments like Iraq, Cuba, North Korea, Iran and Sudan. Read about the laws.

The fact that the New York Yankees and ESPN have been caught doing business with Fidel Castro won't be on any highlight film. ChevronTexaco hasn't bragged about breaking the sanctions against Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Citigroup hasn't issued a press release extolling how it helped finance terrorist groups.

With a few exceptions, it is against the law for U.S. companies and individuals to have commercial or financial dealings with several countries as well as dozens of terrorist or drug organizations. Read the list.

Each year, the government investigates thousands of cases of U.S. individuals or companies for alleged violations of the Trading with the Enemy Act and other statutes and executive orders that restrict free trade. Each year, the government imposes millions of dollars in civil penalties and prosecutes 10 or so criminal cases.

[moobu2]

3. Oh it’s cool if

you do business with Nazi’s, as long as you don’t “sympathize” with them?

[tocqueville]

4. How come he was condemned for "trading with the enemy" ?

poor Prescott, another miscarriage of justice. If you to the article there is nothing there but a statement "no he wasn't"...

tells you a lot about ADL....

[NYCGirl]

7. But they DO SAY he traded with the enemy.

It wasn't about his ideology. He just liked their money. He did business with BOTH SIDES.

[Just Me]

11. How is that not enabling? Financing and equipping isn't enabling?

That is such a freakin' FICTION!!!! :grr:

[NYCGirl]

14. What the ADL is saying is that they don't think he was a NAZI.

The point is that he was a money grubbing scumbag, but there's no proof that he cared anything about the nazi's except to get money from them.

[Just Me]

5. Bullshit!!! He enabled Hitler and the Nazis, and GWHB,...

,...the neoconsters, along with their corporateers, enabled Saddam Hussein and many other economically "cooperative" dictators!!!

The facts cannot be changed. The truth will rise up against fiction!!!

[goforit]

10. THEIR actions certainly have spoken louder than their words!!

Saying I'm not a sympathizer doesn't mean you're not.

Funnling money and military machinery to the enemy
just doesn't jive with being totally innocent.

And the way these two Bush presidents run the country,
they look like sympathizers to me.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. Someone in the ADL had to have been paid off for that statement . . .

Prescott Bush and his business antics are facts, not rumors.

[jmowreader]

12. Or threatened. One of the two.

"Say 'President' Bush's grandfather wasn't a Nazi, or we'll retroactively revoke your tax exemption."

[tx_dem41]

15. You obviously didn't even read the article. n/t

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

8. Well well well. What have we here?

On the one hand, we have this the OP linked, which amounts to "he was not so stop saying that!"

On the other hand, we have THIS:

There was nothing illegal in doing business with the Thyssens throughout the 1930s and many of America's best-known business names invested heavily in the German economic recovery. However, everything changed after Germany invaded Poland in 1939. Even then it could be argued that BBH was within its rights continuing business relations with the Thyssens until the end of 1941 as the US was still technically neutral until the attack on Pearl Harbor. The trouble started on July 30 1942 when the New York Herald-Tribune ran an article entitled "Hitler's Angel Has $3m in US Bank". UBC's huge gold purchases had raised suspicions that the bank was in fact a "secret nest egg" hidden in New York for Thyssen and other Nazi bigwigs. The Alien Property Commission (APC) launched an investigation.

Much, much more at link.

Oh, and thanks to the Sphincter for providing me the opportunity to say something about this. Thanks guys... your research is priceless. :evilgrin:

[AntiFascist]

13. Technically maybe ADL is somewhat correct....

Prescott probably had more to do with fascism than Nazism. When Hitler turned against the Jews it probably turned many a fascist away from him. ADL is more focused on anti-Semitism. The Fourth Reich is more religiously correct.

:evilgrin:

[goforit]

9. Financial dealings w/Nazis = Nazi sympathizer

No bones about it!!!