I must confess my ignorance: What exactly is "coke jaw"?

[CatWoman]

I keep seeing references to it, but I've never heard of it outside of DU.

[AllyCat]

* has started doing this thing with his jaw during speeches where

it jags to the side quickly while he's talking. It's really weird looking.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

2. When did this start?

I never noticed it before.

[AllyCat]

17. I rarely watch him either. Links and posts here at DU started...

maybe a month or two ago. When I watch the videos of him, there he is with his jaw moving sideways, usually to the left. It's very bizarre and reminds one of someone on a coke binge with all the twitches and such. What's weird is he doesn't seem to do it ALL the time. I didn't see it in the few minutes I watched of the famous Disneyland/Katrina speech, but then, I had to turn it off because he was just lying and I couldn't take it.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

23. I've seen it since then

and it looks like a "tic" to me, which would mean he is experiencing a lot of stress. Gee. Imagine that?

[AllyCat]

26. Could be a tic. It's really hard to tell, but it started recently...

making one wonder what the cause might be. Could be coke, alcohol,...but like another poster said, I think anti-psych drugs are more likely. Someone I knew back in the '80s who was still on thorazine for schizophrenia did this with his jaw. He was also a coke user, but he had it all the time, even when he wasn't using.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

28. Well, I kinda do the same thing

but mine is tmj.

[cassiepriam]

32. Antidepressant drugs do not normally cause this .

has to be long term anti psychotic meds?
Maybe something he is taking for BiPolar illness?
I have long thought he might be manic depressive as well as alcoholic. On top of his antisocial personality disorder.

[AllyCat]

40. Not typically...but everyone is affected differently.

There is no drug for antisocial personality disorder. Just counseling, behavior mod, and often institutionalization either through the legal system (if a crime is committed) or otherwise. For *, I'm hoping for the former.

[cassiepriam]

41. Yes, but I just do not think an SSRI is causing the jawtick...

something else is causing it.
And yes tx not much good for sociopaths.
Just jail time.

[AllyCat]

44. Right. I think in the my post to which you responded I was clear

that it was anti-psych. meds, not anti-depressants. Completely differnt animals. I agree with your assessment of jail time. For life. :evilgrin:

[mantis49]

42. Remember the airport hangar scene in Mississippi?

The day of his "heck of a job, Brownie" bungle. I thought he must have remembered his Adderall or Ritalin that day. Trying very hard to be focused.

Saying to self,"Focus, George, focus." :)

[CatWoman]

4. I can't stand watching his speeches

much less listen to them...........

[lcordero2]

1. It's a condition where the jaw involuntarily twitches

[VolcanoJen]

3. It's an involuntary twitching and grinding of the jaw...

... that occurs when you're ripped on cocaine. People who are on meth or speed also get "coke jaw."

I've seen it a lot in person... girl goes to the bathroom with her girlfriends more times than natural or necessary, comes to the bar and orders a round of tequila shots, jaw just grindin' away...

It's almost like they've got a huge wad of gum in their mouths, they way they talk when under the influence. It's hard to describe, but think about someone talking to you as if they're chewing imaginary gum. Or, just watch Bush's Rose Garden press conference. :-)

[QuettaKid]

6. so the coke jaw thing is indicative

of present and ongoing cocaine use? I thought it was a residual thing from past use?

[VolcanoJen]

14. I've noticed it more with acute use.

I have heard it's also a residual thing, but it's really, really noticeable when a person is presently under the influence of cocaine.

[Berserker]

11. It's also called tweakin

meth and coke users are commonly called tweakers.

[valerief]

5. I noticed it when he gave his Jackson Square speech

I thought I was imagining things, and then I read that everyone else noticed it, too.

You know, it might not be coke. It could be crystal meth.

[jeff30997]

13. Liar !

[npincus]

45. LOL

[cassiepriam]

7. I just saw him on TV talking to the troops. He was stuttering like crazy?

Did any one else see it?

[Sequoia]

30. Yes, I had to change the channel and watch the traffic snarl

of headlights on a freeway in San Francisco and say, Wow, like so glad I'm not in that mess. Watching the Chimpster so early in the morning makes the cream in my coffee curdle.

[cassiepriam]

31. Bush before coffee? yah that can kill you.

[GumboYaYa]

8. You grind your teeth when you do coke or some other drugs.

Some alcoholics do it too. When I tended bar in New Orleans you could always tell the serious partiers by the jaw wag.

[VolcanoJen]

20. Exactly

You always know who's on the blow! The jaw wag is a dead giveaway, especially to bartenders who've seen it so often they can spot it a mile away.

By the way cokies tend to be awful tippers. :-)

[GumboYaYa]

48. I can tell what drugs someone is on or how much drink they

have had by a quick look. My kids are in for it. They won't get away with anything. After dealing with so many fucked up people over so many years, you see it all as a bartender.

[John Q. Citizen]

9. It's a kind of grinding motion of the jaw caused by ingestion of

cocaine or other strong stimulents, such as amphetimines.

[billybob537]

10. In SHRUB's case it could be

The silicon chip inside his head has switched to OVERLOAD!!!1

[gratuitous]

29. Winner!

Okay, any post that quotes Boomtown Rats lyrics is an automatic winner, but don't abuse this knowledge.

I watched Stupidhead's little press conference last week, and his jaw was swiveling like a mechanical bull in a redneck bar. I was tipped off to this on DU, but it's impossible to miss once you see it.

[soleft]

12. I googled it when I first saw it popping up

I found a site where a guy who was using cocaine referred to the jaw movement as gurning. Wikipedia says gurning is associated with the use of ecstacy, and someone posted earlier today that it's associated with anti-psych drugs

[valerief]

15. Anti-psych drugs make sense

[VolcanoJen]

24. Yeh... I've heard bartenders call 'em "gurners" or "jaw-waggers"

As in, "Hey, Jen, can you get the gurner at the end of the bar? He's getting impatient."

:-)

[Spider Jerusalem]

16. Use of cocaine or methamphetamines...

causes a sustained l-dopa surge. One of the effects of this is grinding or twitching of the jaw.

[Beetwasher]

18. Such Naivete!

How charming! ;-)

I guess you've never indulged...Back in the day of my wild, misspent youth, I did indulge in such activities *gasp*. Many people who are high on coke find it impossible to NOT grind their jaw in precisely the manner that Chimpy does.

[CatWoman]

21. Honey, I could tell you some stories

:D

Fortunately, I'm one of those people who don't care much for the strong stuff.

Years ago I snorted some scag, and the stuff made me sick as hell. Vomiting all over the place.

My friends told me "that means it was good".

I'm like, If I have to puke to get high, I surely don't need it.

They thought I was nuts.

[VolcanoJen]

27. Good Times!!!

Friend: "Hey, Cat! Here, do this line!"

Catwoman: << snort >> :puke: :puke: :puke: "What in the hell...??"

Friend: "Wasn't that awesome? That's some good shit!"

LMAO, Cat!!

[jeff30997]

19. High doses of caffeine can do the trick too.

[soleft]

22. I think we should start referring to him as Coke Jaw

That or Photo Op

[Beetwasher]

25. "Coke Jaw McGraw!"

Can we get a coke jaw smiley?

[cassiepriam]

33. I call him Jawtick

[sam sarrha]

34. it is probably antidepressants, or his jaw is sore from sucking Gannon's d*...

[charlie]

35. When you get a good head full of coke or speed

you also get a massively tight jaw. After a while, the muscles hurt from the strain, so you flex or open wide to counter it. That's what it looks like Dubya's doing. It's futile. You get some relief... about 2 seconds worth.

[damntexdem]

36. It's caused when the gas build-up in the stomach forces its way ...

out through clenched jaws after one has imbibed Coca Cola. ;)

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

37. Let me finish these two lines and I'll explain it. n/t

[DemoTex]

38. Cocaine torticollis (aka drug-induced torticollis)

Certain drugs of abuse such as ketamine, amphetamines, and cocaine as well as commonly prescribed neuroleptic drugs such as prochlorperazine (Compazine), haloperidol (Haldol), and chlorpromazine (Thorazine) can cause acute dystonia (a lack of normal muscle control). This is a condition that involves the sudden onset of involuntary contractions of the muscles of the face, neck, or back. In addition to bending of the head to one side (acute torticollis), you may experience deviation of the eyes (oculogyric crisis) and protrusion of the tongue (buccolingual crisis).

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/articles/5783-1.asp

[FlaGranny]

47. My son was given compazine

when he couldn't stop vomiting, after a serious auto accident with internal injuries. He developed torticollis after only one or two doses of compazine. This was very severe and extremely painful, and much worse than what we see with *. But, as with anything, I'm sure there are different stages of severity.

[devilgrrl]

39. Gee CatWoman if you had been doing coke and boozing you'd know!

Where have you been? :sarcasm:

;-) I'm funnin'

[CatWoman]

43. Hey Chick!!!!!!

I'll have you know that I put the "A" in Alcohol!!!!!

:hi:

[FlaGranny]

46. Thanks for asking.

I was wondering too. Never was around drug users, so I didn't know either.