"Gay Bathroom Sex "is a White Supremacist LIE.

[bluedawg12]

This is in response to a thread here at DU that alleged that a
“ Catholic” study found :

“41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8). “

The author is listed below, no publication is listed. So no “research” can be verified.

(8) Fields, Dr. E. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA.

The so called study came from a freeper post that was merely passing on a rather lengthy page long anti-gay hate libel that had been passed around the internet to theocon groups and hate groups.

The author of the “bathroom statistic” is a Dr. E.R. Fields. There is no Journal or peer reviewed Journal in which his data appeared that I could find.

There is no Catholic “study.” There is a paper with a patch work of out- dated references from a group called: “Catholic Apologetics International .”

The paper is not worth using for cat litter.

But, there is a Dr. E.R. Fields an anti-semitic, homophobic white supremacist from Marietta Georgia.

Before we contribute to the burden of lies and misinformation a little research is advisable otherwise we just turn into useful idiots for white supremacists, and radicalrightwing theofascists.

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http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=668

The National Alliance has received this letter from long-time White racial activist and publisher Dr. Edward R. Fields (pictured):

"Dear Comrades:

"I have decided to become a member of the National Alliance because I believe that this is the most important and influential organization in America dedicated to the survival of the White race.

"As editor of The Truth at Last I intend to use its columns to promote the Alliance, to gain new members and further its message.

"I first met Dr. William Pierce in 1972 when he formed the National Youth Alliance in Arlington, Virginia. From a tiny two-room office he was able to build a national movement by sheer willpower. Dr. Pierce had the foresight to lay the plans and vision by which this nation can still be saved if we faithfully follow in his footsteps.

"In the past I have been affiliated with many patriotic organizations and most have

[La Lioness Priyanka]

1. even if it were true..so fuckin what??

why is this a problem? if i have sex in a bathroom or casual sex how does this affect any one elses life?

[Kikosexy2]

7. A lot of ...

"Straight" men (married w/ kids) have had sex with other men in public before--how do I know--I who is gay has had my fair share of "straight" and "married" at such public places...and I say it's always a pleasure to give pleasure to guys who just aren't getting any at home..and it's FREE...why pay a hooker for a mediocre bj??

[La Lioness Priyanka]

2. even if it were true..so fuckin what??

why is this a problem? if i have sex in a bathroom or casual sex how does this affect any one elses life?

[Rich Hunt]

5. well....

I don't need to be witness to that is all I have to say.

But look at that White Supremacist guy!

Looks like he's had some plastic surgery. Why so vain, Mr. Nazi?

(p.s. I've been warned that talking about White Supremacists or linking to White Supremacists is 'irrational' and worthy of suppression, suspension and possible banning - just letting you know. However, I am not stooping to their level by reporting you, because I think it's entirely appropriate.)

[La Lioness Priyanka]

6. bathroom doors close

i know LOTS of heterosexuals who have had sex in bathrooms

bathhouses that gay men have sex in are generally exclusive to gay men

[TallahasseeGrannie]

9. Well, it might

affect me if I'm in the next stall listening... but other than that, have at it!

[K8-EEE]

3. Yes But WHOA!

The thread was posted here linked to Free Republic in order to discredit it, please don't make people think this was posted by DU-ers who agreed with the story! "Catholic" and "Study" were both in quotations in the orig subject line, meant to denote that it was BS.

This is all fascinating info here -- will read the links.

[jaysunb]

4. There sure seems to be a lot of interest in

sex, with these folks...especially, gay sex. Could their curiosity indicate some "secret" desires ? :evilgrin:

[politicaholic]

8. Great post...

White supremecists are the boil on the ass of intelligence.

[MrSlayer]

10. Apparently you've never heard about the bathroom in Strawbridges in Philly

nor the one at 30th street station. It's not a lie. When I was working down there dudes would get busted for this shit every day.


Edit: Spelling.

[bluedawg12]

11. This shit is all over the internet and used to dehumanize gays

this happened to be the title of a thread here today.

Even if it were posted in disagreement- this being the title of the thread --was never discredited. So that's what ficking what.

It's not true. Period. That needs to be said.

[bluedawg12]

12. More infor about the "Catholic Study"

http://www.mountainx.com/opinion/2004/0218elliston.php
Tony Dale's phony tales
An open letter to Asheville's last remaining daily radio talk-show host

>To begin with, many of the citations are incomplete and don't begin to back up the "statistics." For example, here's the citation for the assertion that gays account for half of the murders in big cities and half of the suicides: "Kaifetz, J. 'Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some,' Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992." A quick Web search turned up the fact that there is an anti-gay activist in Indiana named Jerry Kaifetz who frequently writes angry letters to newspapers. But he's neither a reporter nor a scientist, and if he is indeed the source of those stats, clearly it's time to find some more credible sources.

To cite an even worse example, consider the citation used for several of the other outlandish "statistics" listed on the page, including the claim, which you repeated, that the average homosexual dies in their 40s: "Fields, Dr. E. 'Is Homosexual Activity Normal?' Marietta, GA." Here, we don't even get a publication.

So who is Dr. E. Fields of Marietta? I hope he's not, but expect he is, the same individual described in a report by the Center for Democratic Renewal, an Atlanta-based hate-group watchdog organization: "The Truth At Last, handed out by various KKK factions, Populist Party, and neo-Nazi groups, is published by Marietta's Ed Fields. Fields was co-founder of the America First Party, a white supremacist political party."

I could go on, Tony, but you get the idea. Your "homosexual statistics" are bunk, and that's no surprise, considering that they come from a group driven more by homophobia than by a search for the facts<

[madrchsod]

13. some of the neo nazi`s i`ve run across

you wouldn`t want to be in a bathroom alone with them...some of these gys and gals are down right creepy and i don`t mean their politics.
my neo nazi friend was wondering if the big nazi flag hanging in his bedroom turned off the chicks he had over ...well duh! ya i told him the flag just maybe a turn off...

[bluedawg12]

14. For some sex even behind closed doors is not good enought between

consenting adults.

So, while we are on the subject of individual rights it's a good time to look up Lawrence v Texas and the much talked about Griswold case during the Roberts nomination hearings.

This is not about the right to have sex in public. That is not an issue. But THAT is trumped up to fight against human rights issues and the right to privacy.

Lawrence was about private consensual sex.
Griswold was about the right to contraception- but it ONLY extended to married couples.

This is about a liberal value that says keep the government out of the private lives of people.

And the hate libel from the freeper board is used to get an emotional hold on people who then recoil and it’s lurid pronouncement and take a strict moralistic view and feel justified because they read that so called paper.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas

“Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003), was a United States Supreme Court case. In the 6-3 ruling, the justices invalidated the criminal prohibition of homosexual sodomy in Texas. The court had previously addressed the same issue in 1986 with Bowers v. Hardwick, but had upheld the challenged Georgia statute, not finding a constitutional protection of sexual privacy.

It also invalidates laws against heterosexual sodomy, although the status of these laws was called into question in 1965's Griswold v. Connecticut"