My Position May Be Changing on Capital Punishment

[louis c]

I have always been against capital punishment for all the sensible reasons we've heard before. I know that the punishment is final, and no mistake can be undone. I know that death to a criminal, regardless of the heinous nature of the crime, reduces us to the level of barbarism. I know that execution is no deterrent, after all the highest murder rates per capita are in the states with the most executions, Florida and Texas (Bush Country). I know that the poor and minorities are put to death at an alarmingly higher percentage than the rich and white.

I know, I've heard it all before.

However, the inner, vengeful me has been reading the Constitution of the United States, and treason happens to be a capital offense.

Rove, Libby, Cheney, and maybe even W. himself may have to face theses consequences.

Come to think of it, my right wing friends have always said that they would one day convince me to support the idea of capital punishment. By jove, they just might do it after all.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[niyad]

1. definitely works for me!!

[louis c]

7. I'm Glad

We'll see how this plays out.

It really should be fun.

[El Supremo]

2. Are you without sin?

Just get them out of office and locked up so they can't murder again.

[louis c]

3. Come on, it's joke.

get with it.

I may not be "without sin".

But I've never committed treason. It's tongue in cheek. Get it?

[El Supremo]

6. OK - Haw Haw

Who knows, maybe * would have a real death row conversion and somebody with more compassion than him would grant clemency.

[IntravenousDemilo]

21. It would be funny, though, and screamingly ironic

if a less compassionate person were to mock him and "whimper, his lips pursed in mock desperation, ' don't kill me'." (Tucker Carlson, "Devil May Care", Talk Magazine, Premiere Issue, September 1999, p. 106). That's all the compassion Bush could muster for Karla Faye Tucker.

That being said, I don't agree at all with capital punishment, even for scum-sucking pus-buckets like him, and I'm glad I live in Canada, where I don't have to worry about the state getting blood on my hands.

[jobycom]

4. I don't want them dead, I want them in public stockades in NYC

at Ground Zero, with a pandacam and spotlights, so I can watch them suffer 24 hours a day.

My way is more humane, no? :-)

[louis c]

5. Now you get the point.

[IntravenousDemilo]

22. Yes, clap 'em in the stocks for a year, round the clock,

in the baking sun, the pouring rain, or the driving snow, and let passersby pelt them with shit and garbage. You could even charge for it -- say, $50 a pop (family package $100) -- and you might eventually pay off the bill for their war.

[charlie]

8. Not enough

I want them to endure something akin to what they've put us through. For 5 years of wreckage and hell, they deserve to be locked up for 5 years... in a septic tank. In a chili and barbecue roadhouse. They can have kid-sized umbrellas though, 'cause that's the sort of soft-hearted guy I am.

[MissWaverly]

9. I think that we should hold them accountable

The existence of forged documents implicating me in commercial activities with the Iraqi regime is a proven fact...
Senator, in everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to
be right, and you turned out to be wrong and 100,000 people
paid with their lives; 1600 of them American soldiers sent to
their deaths on a pack of lies; 15,000 of them wounded, many of them disabled forever on a pack of lies.

George Galloway
Testimony before the US Senate
Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Subcommittee on Investigations
May 17, 2005

[Spinzonner]

10. Capital Punishment is not a punishment

It's an end to punishment.

And it's unclear whether you can truly 'punish' sociopaths in any meaningful sense without torture.

[jrthin]

11. In this instance, I agree with you. nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. For this administration, I make an exception.

If ANYONE deserved the death penalty, it's those treasonous bastards. They have murdered so many people because of their lies and deceit.

[ladjf]

13. I can't imagine any situation that would cause me to support

the death penalty. However, some lengthy jail terms for Bush and his henchmen would seem like good justice.

[goodboy]

14. They should be tried in a kangaroo court like Saddam, and strung up

for lying us into a war which caused the deaths of our soldiers, and innocent Iraqi men, women, and children.



Isn't it ironic?

[louis c]

17. Amen

[NNadir]

15. I am not for capital punishment even for them.

Life without possibility of parole would be fine for me.

[Javaman]

16. Will never be for capital punishment, however...

If a person is to go to jail, then jail they should go. That means: they only get 3 squares and a bed. That's it.

Of course I'm talking about lifers who have done something so incredibly horrible that no level of reform should be allowed for them.

Then once every now and then, the family or family members that were affected by the inmates crime, get to berate the inmate at a random times each year. So the inmate doesn't expect it or can prepare for it.

Then, and this may fall under cruel and unusual, but who cares, I writing this, a small privilege is given to the inmate for what ever reason. After a while they look forward to it, then with out reason, take it away. They will go berserk. This in essence will give the inmate a taste of the frustration and hurt that the family that his crime affected, had gone through. (just a taste).

simple.

This is of course is only allowed after all evidence and proof is presented to make sure that the person is actually guilty.

[louis c]

18. Except for KKKarl Rove

F**K Him.

String him up.

Treat him the same as the Nazis at Nuremberg.

After all, the crime is the same.

[IntravenousDemilo]

23. Three squares? Luxury! Bread and water, I say.

And hard labour, too, since they've never had to work hard for a living.

You are still talking about the Bush Crime Family, right?

[Javaman]

24. To me, killing them would be too easy...

I want them to suffer for the rest of their natural lives. No visits, no perks, no tv, no internet, nothing, no contact with the outside world. Just a 5 by 8 cell for the rest of their lives. Let them live in a vacuum. And several times a year some average person can walk up to them in their cell and tell them that they are the lowest form of scum, the most evil pieces of shit in existence.
And slowly, over time, they will lose their minds. To me, that this far more fitting a punishment then killing these pricks.

Honestly, what is worse? Chopping off a head, or a slow twist of the knife? Metaphorically speaking, of course.

[Laelth]

19. How about this as an alternative to capital punishment?

-Laelth

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. I Would Be Content With Just Removing This Maladministration

I am sure there were folks who hoped for Biblical revenge on the architects of the Viet Nam War too...

[louis c]

25. Me Me Me

I wanted biblical revenge for Viet-Nam War Architects