Iraq constitution and possible civil war

[Dangerman]

I want to know what's your reaction of the Oct. 15 referendum on Iraq's Constitution? Is there any violence? And will it lead to civil war?

[LynnTheDem]

1. Violence? 6 US soldiers dead. Lead to civil war? Hell yes.

An Iranian-style Islamic state, a theocracy, women repressed, (stoned for adultery, says al Sistani's spokesman) and most experts say pass or not it'll mean civil war.

Or as bush calls it; "PROGRESS".

MOST IRAQIS HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN THE CONSTITUTION THEY VOTED ON.

Gee what "PROGRESS"!

It's expected to pass, because the VIOLENCE will keep Iraqis away from the voting booths.

Gee what "PROGRESS"!

Iraqis vote on 'invisible' constitution

Insurgency hampers distribution of crucial document as millions prepare to go to the polls this week...
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article318225.ece

#2. 2000 Americans dead...for an IRANIAN-STYLE ISLAMIC STATE of repressed women in IRAQ;

"Unmaking Iraq, the Constitutional Process Gone Awry,"

The Iraqi constitution as written will push that country toward full-scale civil war, a report from a nonprofit organization warns. Melissa Block talks with Robert Malley, director of the International Crisis Group's Middle East program.
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?l=1&id=3703

"It may well be more of a prelude to civil war than a step forward," Anthony H. Cordesman said in an analysis for the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

The Bush administration endorsed Iraq's proposed new constitution yesterday, but analysts warned that some provisions can be interpreted to undermine everything from the distribution of political power to a secular judiciary, from women's rights to fair distribution of oil revenue.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/24/AR2005082402217_pf.html

There are, however, significant doubts about the religious nature of the new constitution...

"It is written by Islamists for Islamists"

Zainab and her friend Zahra, 37, are both deeply apprehensive about the effect the constitution will have on women's rights. Since "liberation" by US-led forces they have seen the growth in the power of Muslim clerics and the diminishing power of choice.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article318609.ece

The Iraqi constitution's downside for women
http://www.juancole.com/2005/09/iraqi-constitutions-downside-for-women.html

Iraqi Women May Lose Basic Rights Under New Constitution
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0723-06.htm

Iraq's Draft Constitution Is Said to Deepen Divide...will likely trigger civil war...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/26/AR2005092601442.html

UN issues warning over Iraq constitution

There are fears that Iraq's draft Constitution, due to go a referendum next week, could trigger the break up of the country and even spark a bloody civil war.
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2005/s1473209.htm
Americans Die for Sharia (ISLAMIC STATE) in Iraq

It's so Abdul the Iraqi can have six wives. It's so women can be forced to wear the abaya, alcohol can be banned, and sharia law – Muslim religious beliefs as interpreted by a council of mullahs and "grand ayatollahs" – can become the law of the land. As one of the Shi'ite clerics' representatives put it the other day:

"We don't want to see equality between men and women because according to Islamic law, men should have double of women. This is written in the Quran and according to God."
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=4774

#3. Iraq "constitution"...A Lose-Lose Referendum;

Five days before Saturday's referendum on Iraq's proposed constitution, the U.S. foreign policy elite appears both anxious and gloomy, increasingly worried that win or lose, the process will bring Iraq one step closer to civil war and, with it, the possible destabilisation of the wider region.

"We've looked for the constitution to be a national pact, and the perception now is that it's not," Gen. George Casey, the commander of U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq, told lawmakers here last week. "Now this constitution has come out, and it didn't come out as a national compact that we thought it was going to be."

Makiya believes the combination of violence and the constitution threatens "the very idea and very possibility of an Iraq".

Barbara Bodine, a veteran diplomat and Middle East expert currently at Harvard University, whose appointment to a senior CPA post after the invasion was blocked by neo-conservatives in the Pentagon, echoed that view.

"The United States has 'Lebanonised' Iraq. It is ironic that a structure that worked so poorly for Lebanon is now the template for Iraq."
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1012-03.htm

#4. LUCKY Iraqi women! STONING FOR ADULTERY coming soon!

La Repubblica: "Putting it in a nutshell, there will be no more stoning of adulterous women, is that it?"

Al-Yasari, cleric al Sistani's spokesman:
"Well, it depends. In the case of married women whom eye witnesses can accuse of betraying their husbands, the punishment can only be that. But in any event there will be very few exemplary sentences, and they will always be issued after a fair trial."

Welcome to "liberated" Iraq – that’s what our troops are dying for, and that’s what you’re paying for. It’s medievalism with a "democratic" face.

http://www.iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/39110

[Oversea Visitor]

2. Haha

The Iraqies that is fighting the US to end this illegal occupation not going to quit just because of this referendum.

This war wont end until the US leave.
After that then they have a cicil war.

[Uncle Bob]

3. WHo gives a f-k about the constitution?

Do you seriously belive that "the people of Iraq" **VOTE** for the **constitution**.

That's a piss poor preprinted document to make it look like things are actually **ok**.

What part of "you fucked that country and it's people beyond repair and you only make it worse" you don't understand?

What the fuck do you people do with your constitution? The last time I checked, you wiped ount an entire civilisation, took it's land, deported one third of africa to work that land and, among many other hideous things, you are the only ones who used 'nukular' weapons in combat and, if that isn't enough, against civilian targets? Beside brainwashing children and wishful thinking la "we are the light of the world" what the fuck is it good at? Looking at your country, especially after what happend in NO, it looks that you should all take that piece of paper and wipe the bullshit clean off your your government mouth.

Why do you emphasis so much on this "constitution"? Because that's what Bush and Fox are talking about?

The constitution won't do JACK SHIT for nobody. It won't bring back the dead iraqis, it won't clear the depleted uranium from the soil, water and air, it won't rebuild ruins... Do I need to keep going?

The "constitution" is just eyecandy for suckers and idiots...

"Oh look! They are voting their own constitution! Things are going the right way!" No shit? Can it suck my dick too?

[Oversea Visitor]

4. Dear Uncle Bob

Welcome to DU :wave:
Hey the people here know all this.
I do recommend you go post this rant in the freeper site
Of course it will be your first and only post hehe.

Please get ready a nice hot bath. You will need it after that visit.

[LynnTheDem]

5. Most of us here know this & agree with ya, Uncle Bob.

And no, I don't believe it can suck your dick, as that would be against Sharia law, which of course the "constitution" is based on, turning Iraq into an Iranian-style theocracy under Islamic rule.

However, you will be allowed up to 6 wives.

[Cults4Bush]

6. BWAH! hahahahha

:spray: :rofl: :applause:

Many spewings... thank you!