What will happen to Patrick Fitzgerald after indictments are handed down?

[Tim4319]

[malaise]

1. They will start

the character assassination. Oh wait they've started it already.

[flyarm]

16. well we need to start compiling video of * saying fitz is doing a fine

a fine job...i think he just said it on the today show last week in fact..or something in that order...

but whoever is good on video needs to compile all the things * has said in the last 2 years about fitz...simple scotty as well...and then feed it back to the blood suckers on a platter!

fly

[malaise]

18. Great idea n/t

[bryant69]

2. Hard to say

The most logical thing is nothing for a little while; doing something real soon makes things too obvious. But the Bush administration isn't necessarily big on logic, so . . . hard to say.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Cactus44]

3. I'd stay off airplanes if I were him. n/m

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[woodsprite]

4. I woke up this morning thinking the exact same thing.

I was thinking they'd have to wait awhile, but I wouldn't be surprised with anything.

[hwmnbn]

12. welcome to DU, Cactus44......

:hi:

[hang a left]

5. I read something last night at antiwar.com

Justin Raimondo's latest piece. He speculates that he will intern a new grand jury and that the first indictments will not be the last. Let us all hope he digs so deep he gets to 9-11.

[flyarm]

24. it will be drip drip drip...

and if they are to be tried for espionage..and face life???????? rove and libby ..they will sing like freaking birds...
i do not know if they can get pardoned for espionage...any lawyers know ??????

but can you imagine * pardoning anyone on espionage charges?????

thats like pardoning aldrich ames, the walkers, and robert hansen!!!!!!!!!
they all destroyed intelligence opperations..and gave away our secrets...and got other agents killed..what makes this any different??????

just let * try to pardon them if the indictments are espionage...

i pray thats what fitz gets them on!!

fly

[DemonFighterLives]

6. I'm sure he will make a mistake with his meds

or fall off a roof by accident of course. I wish him the best and hope that he jails all the potential members of dubco. If he cleans them up enough, he may have a chance.

[woodsprite]

7. So right. If he fails to clean them up, he's at high risk. I'm sure

he knows that too.

[DemonFighterLives]

15. He may have to keep going

I just hope that some heads roll soon and the investigation can then expand to any dealings of dubco.
If he nails them he will be a hero for Americans for all time and if he loses to them, he will only be a number on the hit list.

[Gman]

8. He'll prosecute the indictments

and his personal safety will probably be at great risk at that point.

[Oilwellian]

44. Are you certain of that? n/t

[unpossibles]

9. he will be found beaten and tied up in the trunk of a car...

...that is on fire outside of a seedy motel.

Official cause of death: suicide.

[rpannier]

10. He'll probably be the lead prosecutor in the case.

There is the chance that pukes in Illinois will try to get him off the case by encouraging him to run against Durbin. That will remove him from prosecuting and scrub can pick someone new, more favorable.
Then the pukies will sabotague his campaign, he'll lose and be gone.

[cassiepriam]

46. Can Fitz be bribed/seduced in this way?

[figbash]

11. He'll still be pretty busy

investigatin' and prosecutin' corruption in the Big Onion, otherwise known as the Windy City, Chicago, Chicago...my kind of town. Blue as hell but still under the thumb of a wanna be King, Mayor Daley da Second.

[hwmnbn]

14. my kind of town too...

what with the world series and all......Wecome to DU, figbash. :hi:

We also had Elliot Ness so Fitzpatrick fits right in to the crimefighter mold in Chicago. The crimefighters are still way outnumbered though and your point is correct IMO.

[GliderGuider]

13. Can anyone explain to me why he got the job in the first place?

He seems like exactly the wrong person to be heading this investigation from the BFEE point of view. Was it hubris or miscalculation on the part of the administration? Did they figure that they were smarter than him, or they had things well enough taped down, or did they simply not understand what kind of man he was? Had they perhaps convinced themselves that it really wasn't that big a deal, and by the time they figured out that it was, Fitz was too far along to be neutralized?

It seems it would have been easy enough for them to slide a tame prosecuter into place. How did Fitzgerald get there, and why wasn't he taken out early in the investigation?

Any speculations?

[DemonFighterLives]

17. Ashcroft was not all that bright

either that or he was tired of the dubco lies and decided to help the country.
Ashcroft did lose to a dead man ya know. His singing of "Let The Eagle Soar" kinda says it all. :puke:

[GliderGuider]

20. I wonder if he flipped?

His morality, repugnant as it was, might have compelled him to do so. I've seen speculation that Powell was a primary source for Fitzgerald, but little about Asscroft. I wonder...

[DemonFighterLives]

26. Maybe they didn't check out Fitz that much

and assumed that he would fall in line.
Speculation is all I got and until some indictments start to flow, could be entirely off base.
I haven't heard of the Powell angle, but he should be pissed at dubco for the UN fiasco. Even though he only has himself to blame for selling his soul to the devil.

[GliderGuider]

28. Powell might be looking for redemption

He did say that the UN speech was the worst thing he'd ever done, or words to that effect.

[DemonFighterLives]

32. You could be right

but he has a long way to go to get back. He should be out there every day yelling about the regime.
Nice talking to ya, but I have to go to work. B*sh economy ya know.
:dem:

[cassiepriam]

47. Powell is a military man to the core. Would never flip.

He'd take the sword for the evil SOBs.

[H2O Man]

31. Ashcroft

didn't pick him. Ashcroft recused himself, and granted his authority to James Comey. Comey picked Fitzgerald with no influence from Ashcroft.

[DemonFighterLives]

51. Oops, you're right

Sometimes the focus just goes to the one obvious clown. Thank goodness for Comey.

[hang a left]

38. He got caught obstructing and got the hell out.

[Tatiana]

21. Good question.

I think career professionals at the CIA pushed for him. They were aware that more was at stake than just the outing of a NOC. They knew he was the man for the job.

I think they also had something on Ashcroft, which is why he recused himself. I don't think the Bushistas counted on Ashcroft not being in charge of the investigation (which they knew was coming).

There's just something about them prosecutors from New York....

[madrchsod]

22. asscrap had to have his second in charge

appoint someone because asscrap was in conflict. the second in charge is as tough as fitz and knew fitz would not stop until he found the truth. gonzo could`t do a dam thing about it when he took over...and now the rest is history...

[GliderGuider]

33. Ah. I just Googled John Comey. It's a lot clearer now.

Comey is indeed cut from the same cloth as Fitz. I remember Ashcroft resisting the call for recusal fairly vigorously. I now understand why. Ashcroft was the floodwall between the BFEE and the cold waters of truth. When he went down, the flood rolled in.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. He Has Powerful Friends

The Bushistas aren't the only powerful people in this country. Lots of other rich and powerful people out there that don't like them.

His original patron was Peter Fitzgerald, uber-rich former Senator from here in Illinois. That's how he got the job of investigating the corruption in Illinois gov't.

He had, by then, already cemented his reputation as a no-nonsense, take no prisoners investigator, and was further backed by Hastert.

You're correct, in that they made a big mistake in getting him appointed, but they probably didn't do their homework and figured they were above the law anyway.
The Professor

[figbash]

30. Patrick was Peter's gift that keeps on giving

... to the apparatchiks of the Illinois Republican Party for all the help they did NOT give him while he was Senator. Living well is the best revenenge, eh?

[flyarm]

36. all criminals eventually make mistakes...

they get arrogant and so full of themselves ..they think they are invincable...

the second in charge of juctice made it almost impossible for fitz to be removed by juctice or the white house..he made it air tight..and he named fitz...remember there are two factions going on in juctice , the cia , the fbi and the pentagon...many do not like what is going on..that are inside this white house...may see the real threat to this nation..

alot of top cia spooks have left..lifers...and they did not work for life protecting this country to see it destroyed by this moron in the white house and his band of thugs...
many are good people who put their life in danger day in and day out and traveled and sacrificed and were away from family..good people inside the cia..who are not going off to the sunset and watching a lifes work go to hell in a hand basket...
and remember all who are in the cia..they are family..they are each others lifeline..they do not take it lightly when one or many of their own are put in jeapordy...
we have no idea how many of these lifers were involved with brewster / jennings and now their job is kaput as they have now been exposed..so they retired ..many ot hese top guys who have left in the past two years may have seen the end of their careers kaput because of valeries exposure and brewster /jennings was exposed...

one thing i do know..it is a damn foolish man who would screw with lifers at the cia...the career professionals..the good guys...
a stupid move on anyones behalf...
but also remember these *co group got so arrogant and pound foolish going anywhere near the cia..

fly

29. I did a biop on him last week - here is link

Fitzgerald resume


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5044140

[capi888]

45. Ashcroft recuses himself, app't Dep attorney Comey

Comey appts Fitzgerald. Read here:
eptember 2003, the CIA requested that the Justice Department investigate the matter.<37> Karl Rove was identified by the New York Times in connection to the Plame leak on 2 October 2003, in an article that both highlighted Attorney General John Ashcroft's employment of Rove in three previous political campaigns, and pointed to Ashcroft's potential conflict of interest in investigating Rove. In recusing himself from the case, Ashcroft named Deputy Attorney General James B. Comey, to be "acting attorney general" for the case; Comey in turn named U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois Patrick Fitzgerald on 30 December 2003 (Comey names Fitzgerald). Fitzgerald began investigations into the leak working from White House telephone records turned over to the FBI in October 2003.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair#Espionage_Act

[mmonk]

19. He could go down

as one of the most important people in history.

[Stephanie]

25. I see wedding bells in his future!

:loveya:

[DemonFighterLives]

34. Good one.

:rofl:

[Stephanie]

40. I'm not joking!

Stop that!

[madrchsod]

39. really..i`m not one to gossip...but

i "heard" OldLeftieLawyer is falling in love with fitz...

[madrchsod]

27. nothing...he`ll be back in illinois

to finish off the ryan trial and what other cases he`s working on in his federal jurisdiction.

[mod mom]

35. He'll be a REAL American HERO!!!!!!

[flyarm]

37. does any lawyer know here..does fitz prosecute the indictments..

or can * appoint someone else?? or justice appoint someone else??

or can fitz appoint a prosecutor..

i would think he would be the one who had to take it to trial ..but i do not know the answer to that..lawyers out there..anyone can you answer that??

thanks ..fly

[Catherine Vincent]

41. I just hope he doesn't disappoint us.

And let the Bush gang get away with treason.

[leftofthedial]

42. big time swift boat smear

[Stephanie]

43. He's Untouchable!

[cassiepriam]

48. For the repugs, no one is untouchable.

Say a prayer for him.

[GliderGuider]

49. They'll try. But look at the example of Cindy Sheehan

She proves that they can throw all the slime they want but it doesn't always stick. People who are apolitical with few skeletons in their closet and righteous causes are very hard to smear. If they didn't get Cindy, they won't get Fitzgerald.

[cassiepriam]

50. They are not done with her yet.