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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:27 PM
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Is the NEW YORK DAILY NEWS a reliable news source?
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:28 PM
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1. I do believe it is!
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:28 PM
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2. woops! posted twice
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 09:30 PM by rainy
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:30 PM
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3. it's a tabloid....
but has broken some big ones in the past
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:31 PM
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4. Yes,
if you like crap.

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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:31 PM
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5. Isn't this the Rupert Murdoch paper? The one that had the Gephardt
front page? Or am I thinking of a different paper?
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:32 PM
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6. that's the New York Post nt
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:33 PM
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7. No thats the POST
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:39 PM
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10. One Morton Zuckerman is the publisher. nt
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:37 PM
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8. Generally , no. It's a neo-con-style tabloid....
pro-war, pro-Bush, etc.

The first part of the paper is devoted to really important ( to the publisher) news: Jaylo, Ben, rappers, Oprah etc. etc. etc.

OTOH, there is occasional hard news that escapes the notice of the Times. And occasionally, the publisher allows a progressive pt. of view to pass across the op-ed page.

But only occasionally.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:38 PM
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9. not true -- you are describing the Post. This one is generally liberal.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:46 PM
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11. Actually yes it is.
When I was a kid we all sneared at Da News and read our snooty NYT. But now we know that the NYT is full of shit and Da News gets it right more often than not. The world turned upside down, stood on its head.

Da News has become a major Democratic voice in the New York region, and it is not owned by neocon agents of the darkside.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:50 PM
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21. Huh ?! n/t
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:48 PM
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12. No ...
New York Daily News rushes to be the first to report a story, which means they cut huge corners, make guesses -- sometimes educated, sometimes not -- and are willing to use sources that will tell them anything, no matter how accurate or even relevant.

In their rush, they get it right sometimes, which is to be expected. Broken clocks and all that. They get it wrong a lot more. But more to the point, what they generally do is report a story based on a tenuous suspicion and sensationalize it, exaggerating the importance of sources, of course without ever naming them, in addition to the relevancy of the information. The story isn't "wrong," but it doesn't really say anything. It just pretends it does.

This "flipped" story that has so many people worked up all of a sudden is a perfect example. Rawstory.com's reporting of what will come out in the Daily News (which is probably even more sensationalized than the original) says what? In plain English, it says two people "close to Fitgerald" ("close" in what way?) suspect someone in the White House may have flipped. Well, stop the presses. Thirty dozen people in the last week have "suspected" someone may have flipped. This is not news.

It will be news when we have confirmation that someone inside the White House will be testifying against others who have been indicted. Since we don't even know for certain if someone will be indicted yet, this flipped story means nothing.

And, btw, I'm not saying someone hasn't "flipped." I'm saying "so what?" Fitgerald is and has been getting information from a number of sources for quite some time. The possibility that no one inside the WH has been cooperating, whether to save his/her own butt or to save someone else's or both, would be the real story.

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:01 PM
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16. Ditto, lets keep it real people.
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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:55 PM
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13. It's GARBAGE
The only thing that it's good for is as a last resort...if you happen to run out of toilet paper.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:39 AM
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23. The editorial page is garbage
But the Washington bureau is good and they have some great columnists.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:57 PM
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14. Yes. Some people are put off by its being a tabloid, and its working-class
conservatism, but it's a very solid newspaper. It is what it is, and it does it quite well. It's as reliable as any mainstream source. Though it tilts right, it's not at all like the piece of shit New York Post, which treats its readers like idiots to be laughed at and led around by the nose.

The News might have the most leftwing columnist of the New York dailies in Juan Gonzalez (he hosts Democracy Now with Amy Goodman). The untimely death a few years ago of the late, great political columnist Lars Erik Nelson has left a void that can never be filled.

The News also has a fantastic pop/rock music critic in Jim Farber. He's been writing for the News for years, even though his biting critique of many mainstream acts infuriates a lot of the News mainstream readers. And, needless to say, the News' sports section is excellent (except for dickhead no-nothing NBA columnist Mitch Lawrence, and sometimes-dickhead, sometimes-excellent Mike Lupica).

In the 25 years I've lived in NYC, I have gone through a couple of periods of several years where I refused to read the Times (and I think I'm about to enter another one). I stopped reading the Post many years ago. But there hasn't been more than a few days in the last 25 years that I haven't picked up the News. It is a part of the permanent fabric of this city.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:00 PM
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15. Yes. The NY Post is the tabloid. Daily News is a decent paper.
The best paper in the tri-state area is Newsday but the Daily News is a working class, respectable paper, not a rag like the Post.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:05 PM
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17. not for lottery results
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EFF_BUSH Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:07 PM
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18. For what it's worth...
The Daily News was the paper that broke the story earlier this year that detailed Mark McGwire's steroid use. A couple of weeks later Congress subpoenaed all those baseball players to testify. This also torpedoed McGwire's repeated denials after the Jose Canseco book came out. I truly believe McGwire would have kept lying all the way to Congress if that story didn't come out. After that, he had to fess up to questions that were never asked of him before.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/289500p-247837c.html

It's a tabloid rag, but it broke open the biggest sports story of the year, and maybe the biggest development on the biggest scandal of the Bush Administration.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:36 AM
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22. Hi EFF_ BUSH!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:28 PM
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19. Ok, clear as mud now.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:42 PM
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20. Amy Goodman sourced
NY daily news for it's Katrina reporting...Tamer El Ghobashy was one of the only print reporters to get inside the convention center before it was evac'd.
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:39 AM
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24. Compared to the NY Post,
they are the zenith of journalistic integrity.

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