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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:16 AM
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Why did the NYT (Keller and SulzB) give Judy such free rein?
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 12:52 AM by texpatriot2004
Why on Earth would they let her run "amok" with their credibility unless, of course, they had some interest in selling the propaganda too. That's the only thing that makes sense. They were in on some part of the scheme or invested in the outcome, otherwise they wouldn't risk it.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:22 AM
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1. What did they know about Judy's "security clearances"
And when did they know it?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:16 PM
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14. Good questions. n.t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:23 AM
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2. Don't forget the NYTimes was in disarray also.
I don't have a time line but wish I did. In the past 5 years, they've changed due to Blair, a head-shed resigned, and I imagine lots more happened. Any insight into why Miller had so much power? Maybe any news is better than no news? No doubt they fell down on the job...
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:23 AM
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3. Confidential sources = access to power.
That's the outcome the Times is invested in.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:24 AM
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4. Couple of reasons
1) Keller is a self-described "hawk." He was naturally inclined to agree with and support Miller's drum-beating.

2) Pinch has known Miller since the late 70s. They are close and personal friends. There was a definite lack of objectivity here. He placed his trust in Miller over his stewardship of our nation's paper of record.

3) During the early invasion days, Woodward was the one with the insider administration scoop. I think the NYT allowed Miller free reign in publishing administration propaganda out of being in competition with the WaPo. The WaPo had Woodward, and NYT propped up Miller as their insider "star" journalist.



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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:24 AM
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5. They're fellow neoconsters.
Peace.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:37 AM
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6. Part of the neoconster gang they are. nm
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:43 AM
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7. the spelling demon again
I know it's nitpicking, but the phrase is "free rein" as in giving the
horse a loose rein... no directions, control, etc. But, y'know I like the "reign" in this context...she certainly acted like royalty at times.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:53 AM
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8. oops thanks for that, I was able to edit, I hate spelling errors too
but you're right reign does kind of fit here.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:58 AM
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10. Creative spelling doesn't rank very high on the sin meter.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:57 AM
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9. What are the usual reasons for murder?
Power
Money
Incompetence
Coverup
Jealousy
Mental disease
Sex
Stupidity
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 01:43 AM
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11. Power, money or coverup? n.t
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 01:59 AM
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12. The reasons for the "paper of record"
to be complicit in the murder of so many thousands resemble the same, tired excuses for evil that ever plague us.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:34 AM
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13. They're Trying To Avoid 'Liberal Bias'
I suspect that the senior executives at the New York Times were trying to escape being branded as part of the 'liberal media establishment' by right-wing demagogues. Not that such a move would do them much good for appealing to such an audience--right-wing demagogues consider any publication to be 'liberally biased' unless it prints right-wing "conservative' propaganda verbatim.

What the New York Times got for giving credulous reporters like Miller free reign is a loss of credibility with the rest of their readership base.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:18 PM
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15. What's your theory? nm
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