Somebody needs to tell the Dems, "KICK 'EM WHEN THEY'RE DOWN!!!"

[Walt Starr]

Within minutes of the indictments being announced, the Dems should come out fighting against Republicans at all levels.

KICK THEM WHEN THEY ARE DOWN!!!!

And right after kicking them when they're down, KEEP KICKING THEM!!!

Tarnish every last Republican in the nation with this mess.

And don't just growl, the Dems need to BITE!!!

[Im with Rosey]

1. There is NO way I could agree with you MORE!

I am sooooo tired of the mister nice-guy attitude. I want them to scream from the tallest building a run-down of every piece of s___ these people are responsible for. After the kicking and biting of course!

[LuckyTheDog]

56. Use steel-toed boots

Use the same on any Dems who knowingly collaborated (as opposed to those who were duped).

[SteppingRazor]

2. Kick'em?

Screw that. Hit'em with a tire iron when they're down. No quarter asked, none given!
Because you know if the shoe was on the other foot, they'd do the same.

[Elidor]

57. No, not because they'd do the same

We're better than that. We don't have to justify behavior by saying the other guy does it, too. When we kick them in the teeth, it's not because they would do it, too: it's because it's the only kinda love they understand. :evilgrin:

[bryant69]

3. Well they need to tie this corruption to core republican ideals

Republicans don't believe in the American system of Governence and so they are unmoved by corruption; I mean if the system doesn't work anyway, why not rip it off?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[HereSince1628]

4. It's much easier than bending over and punching them.

Another analogy would be to sit on their head/neck

From horsemen's lore, when you need to teach a horse a lesson of respect, force it lay down and then sit on its head. Unable to swing it's head the horse can't get up, or so the story goes. In the end the will of the horse to fight subsides and respect for the horsement is achieved. I have no idea if it's true. Just one of those rural myths.

I have no idea if it works with elephants.

[...of J.Temperance]

5. Gosh how I agree...FULL ON scorched earth policy we should have

Let's beat those Nazi bastards to bloody pulps, kick them and kick them until they scream for Mama and beg for mercy.

Will the party do it though? I don't have much hope that they will.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Naw. Just kick them every time they try to get up.

[Walt Starr]

7. Kicking this thread to KECK 'EM WHEN THEY'RE DOWN!!! n/t

[MN ChimpH8R]

8. When the SOBs are drowning, throw them anvils.

Wasn't that a Carville-ism?

[mattclearing]

9. Nice one. n/t

[CottonBear]

43. If your opponent is drowning, don't save 'em. Throw 'em an anvil!

-James Carville

[hvn_nbr_2]

49. Or throw them levee bricks. n/t

[realFedUp]

10. just clear the dead wood....better for the environment. nt

[McKenzie]

11. You got it in one Walt

The Democratic Party approach to getting their butts kicked? Ask some lame questions and then get laughed at by the neocons in response.

Sorry Democratic Party, bullies will always trash you unless you start hitting back. And since you seem to lack the balls to fight maybe the people you are meant to represent will need to do it for you.

[McKenzie]

12. self delete - hit button twice

[King Coal]

13. You left out a very important part.

They need to kick them HARD!!!

[Walt Starr]

18. I assumed the hard part.

:evilgrin:

[Individualist]

14. Kick where it hurts the most!

[tex-wyo-dem]

15. Couldn't agree more!

I'm tired of these apologist, pandering, weak, measured tactics that's been plaguing the Dems for years.

I want a kick ass progressive/liberal party who isn't worried that they will offend the right or the middle or the corporate monied interests, or whoever.

Just f**king take a stand and represent the people!!!

[DURHAM D]

16. I totally agree. However, our party leaders will decide that we

can't handle the truth. Biden, Lieberman, Reid, etc. will decide that in the interest of the country they must be "statesman". They will try to be bigger/better people while not realizing that they are just being victims of the abusers.

[texpatriot2004]

17. kick em when their down. nt

[applegrove]

19. We have nothing to learn from jackboot tactics. That is what freepers

did to Dems online after the election.

We need to push hard for more truth if indictments come down. We need to push the media to acknowledge they were not doing their jobs in the lead up to war. We need to push for a full accounting for how all this happened. And then push for legislation to make sure a "cabal" cannot take over the country in the future.

[applegrove]

22. Don't attack the person. Only point out the flaws in their political

beliefs and voting patterns.

[KCS72000]

27. Kick them with this;

Yeah, Kick them for at least the next Sixteen Years!

Kick them with this;

Three Repug themes must that be dispelled;


1. Smaller Government is Better.
Wrong!

NOLA



2. The president is just a spokesman, the real decisions are made by experts and advisors.
Bad Policy !

What if your experts and advisors are at odds, A real leader with vision is needed to pull the team together.



3. Trickle Down Economics.
Bullshit !

See today's economy and all we benefited after 5 years of tax giveaways to the wealthy.

Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?

[klook]

35. YES!! One of the best posts in this thread

You've laid out a good, simple approach for HOW to kick them and keep them down. At the same time, every time, offer a positive alternative to the Republicans' Bizarro reality.

I would add:
4. When in doubt, err on the side of War.
Wrong! War should be waged only when Americans are threatened, and only as a last resort.

[Eurobabe]

20. Kick'em when they're up, kick'em when they're down

Why am I singing Don Henley's song in my mind now, EAR WORM!

[Marnieworld]

21. I'm thinking that's the plan

We all know indictments are coming. They've been pretty silent during KAtrina and Miers' nomination. It's like they are waiting for the explosions and KABLOOEY! They'll be kicking like Rockettes!

Kick em down and keep em down. It's the only hope left.

[LuCifer]

23. Nominated!

DON HENLEY SAID IT BEST BABY!!!!!!!!

I say STOMP 'EM!!!!!!!!!!

Lu

[yorgatron]

24. if we had stomped them more thoroughly after Watergate

none of the current mess would be happening.

[Ksec]

25. I agree. The Dems will play nice

F that. Cut their thrtoats when theyre down or theyll cut yours when they get back up. F playing nice. Weve done that and got kicked in the groin for it.
When you swim with sharks you better be a shark or youll be devoured.

[Mosley]

26. I disagree

First, its stupid to interefere when your foe is destroying himself.

Second, it lacks class.

Third, it opens you up as a target.

Fourth, it wastes your energy

Fifth, the Democrats need to show our party as a clean, positive
alternative with a plan to improve the lives of everyday americans

get Barak Obama as the 'face of the party' put him on every damn
show with a fistful of bright ideas and plans to put the country on
the right track. "We are offering a real program to unify this
nation. We have solid real plan for energy, education ending our
Iraq debacle and do so with economic vitality and fiscal responsibility."

[Ksec]

28. sounds like what we did during our Presidential convention

When we listened to them tell us to play nice or else. We did. They didnt. They won.

[Walt Starr]

29. Bingo!!!

Kick the living shit out of them while they're down!

[Ksec]

32. Amen Brother

[IndyOp]

33. They did NOT win - they STOLE the election - our votes!

I am writhing in anticipation of someone inside the * admin spilling ALL the beans about what they know about the theft.

:kick:

[fooj]

37. Maybe Fitzmas will give us a two for one!

:hi:

[IndyOp]

58. Fooj - Go vote in this poll if you haven't --

Optimists, we need some optimists around here:

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5093968&mesg_id=5093968>

[guajira]

30. Mosley, you are so right

All we Dems need to do is get enough backbone to tell the truth, do some investigating, and expose the bastards for who they really are.

Sitting back and hoping they will self-destruct has not been working for the past 5 years. Time to get pro-active and make sure Americans know what low-lifes are running our government!!

[Ksec]

31. Our leader doesnt have to be dirty or abrasive

We do it by proxy. We get our own swiftboat vets and then claim to know nothing about it.

[Mosley]

38. I understand the urge to strike out...however..

I 'fight' for a living and have come to consider...is this
emotion helping me or hurting me?

I think that as satisfying as it feels to strike your foe when
he/she is down, I question what real benefit is there in it.

I think the democrats are being handed (by a confluence of events)
a real opportunity to live up to the promise of what I believe our
party stands for...which, to me..is NUMBER ONE...economic and social
justice....as opposed to THEM who stand for ...

'BUSINESS VALUES' and whatever feeds the haves.

I doubt the public would be 'inspired' by dems out adding
their 'I told you so' to the current mess. They might
be surprised to hear someone saying something that actually offered
them some HOPE that the future could be better, safer, happier for
them and their children.

[Pacifist Patriot]

40. I'd be inclined to agree with you, but...

I think it depends upon what you consider "kicking while they're down."

I think it is entirely possible to hammer on the truth -- and think it's worth the effort -- when given the opportunity. Our voices have been silenced or drowned out for so long I'd welcome some straight talk. I think this is an appropriate time to do that....way past time actually.

I think you can kick ass and be classy about it at the same time.

[iconoclastNYC]

51. Why do people think Barak is the new Messiah?

We need to appeal to WHITE MEN and i don't see Barak as the best pitch to that group. We need the next Howard Dean. Someone who inspires Passion and doesn't fire up racial fears.

[geniph]

54. "It lacks class"?

Frankly, WGAS? I mean really, kick 'em with your pinky raised if it makes you feel classier, but screw "class." It's time for a purge, people.

[fooj]

34. Pile it on, baby! Pile it on!

Peace.

[Justitia]

36. I'm w/you, Walt. This could be like a bad "B" horror flick otherwise...

they'll just keep coming back over and over.

Make sure you let 'em have it w/both barrels when they're down, or the scary psychos will reach out and grab ya by the ankles as you turn away.

Sign me up for "lots of kicking when they are down".

[katty]

39. and Keep Kicking-NO more pretense-Grind them up!

[redacted]

41. NO. Much better if you just let them self-destruct. Then save the day.

Think about it -- the dems need to take the take the role of Superman -- swoop in and save the day.

[RobertSeattle]

42. We need some Don Henley!!

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em all around

[npincus]

44. beat them like a bongo... BABA-LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rucky]

45. Dude, we're hammering them with ACTION

They've never seen anything like this.

trash-talking feels good and rallies the base and all, but I'm pumped up about all these indictments.

[ronnykmarshall]

46. Not only kick 'em....

Whip 'em!

Whip with a whip.

A nice leather whip.

Once that's have been oiled.

Whip them until a red welts arrear on their backs.

Whip them 'til they scream and call you big hot stud daddy!

Oh wait, that was my "date" last week.


Yeah what you said.

[Mend]

47. this was almost the end of Democracy and the

total destruction of our country. They were dismantling the New Deal, they were dismantling separation of church and state, they let New Orleans people drown, they let 911 happen, they have destroyed Iraq, the environment, etc. etc etc. I have never seen this country so threatened and if that means kicking the shit out of them to save us and the world, so be it.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

48. It didn't happen in the 70s, 80s or 90s. So I won't hold my breath. n/t

[Caretha]

50. I don't care how we do it

Just make sure they can't get back up.

I want my country back!!!

[tgnyc]

52. Call it "The sleazy death of the 'Republican Revolution'"

[mtnester]

53. My father taught me that if I am ever being held in a close one on one

battle for my life, I should dig my nails into the back of the ear of my attacker, and jerk as hard as I could, and when it comes off, show it too him. When he sees his ear, he will howl and he WILL let go or relax his grip enough for your to run so you can save your life.

The whole point of this is . .

jerk his damn ear off, and then SHOW IT TO HIM . . .you gotta SHOW it or you do not get the effect of the effort.

This is what we should be doing right now...showing them their ears after we tear them off.


(My father still teaches street tactics to law enforcement officers. It is great fun to see a bunch of young twenty-somethings, usually 3 of them, try and take my dad to the ground in a street fight session. My dad will be 66 on Veterans Day. It normally takes 3 of them, and someone usually ends up crying (not my Dad). He teaches things like the ear, the upswing to the nose, pressure points (amazing how quick he can floor you with two fingers)and other pretty dirty tactics so that officers understand what they face in a mano y mano fight)

[bettyellen]

55. and keep saying this is "Post-Katrina" America.

where evrybody finally feels free to despise our current administration.

[Kazak]

62. Heh.

I like it! :)

[mom cat]

59. The repukes have been down...way down. I want to know who has been calling

off the dogs so far.

[rainidame]

60. Why should they lower themselves to the Repukes level!

This is the stupidest post I've seen on here yet! What a moron. Point to them, as they roll around in despair, highlight the fungus and decays, BUT don't kick or you are just as bad; shit is everyone in this country a hypocrit!

[NNN0LHI]

61. The Repukes level?They're running the entire country if you haven't noticed

You think they accomplished that by being nice guys?

Don

[rainidame]

64. If you can't win without bullying,

then you ain't got the smarts to be on the ticket in MHO. I'm looking for the group that not only has better ideas, BUT also has more HUMANE, MORE SOCIAL, and MORE INTELLIGENT delivery systems than the repubs. I loose respect quickly for anyone or any group that takes on the tactics of their enemies or the scum of the earth, in order to win. I think that is the reason I was such a staunch Edwards supporter, he didn't get creepy or mean or . . . .I wish he would shape the Democratic party because then I could be proud to be a part of it. . . . Something truly based on the generous, rational, and intelligent ideals of US.

[rainidame]

65. Yeah, I know. . .

keep smokin' that pipe, girl. . . huh? Integrity, Honor, Courtesy, Intelligence. . . . Dream worlds, gosh I wish they could get a toehold into reality.

[NNN0LHI]

66. Welcome to DU rainidame

Nice to have you here with us.

Don

[KharmaTrain]

63. They're Not Down Yet...Far From It

It's easy to get into an echo chamber here and think that all the bad news this regime has been emitting is taking down the Repugnican party. From one who is watching local races closely, I can tell you it isn't. Are candidates concerned? Sure, but they haven't had to directly account for their own votes or their own complicity with this regime...we're a long way from that.

The frustration here is how powerless Democrats are right now. With no control in any of the major branches of government, along with their complicit corporate media, the ability to hold not only this regime, but its proxies, accountable for the lying, deceptions and criminality that is now coming to light will take time and a lot more revelations.

While it's easy to get excited and giddy about all the "possibilities"...the realities still are there are 435 House seats up for election in a year and it's going to take every ounce of effort and lots of money for Democrats to regain the control vital to start restoring some accountability and sanity to this government.

Cheers...

[Coexist]

67. kick

[July]

68. I do, I do!

Got my third moneybegging call in two weeks this afternoon. Guy talked all about how w/DeLay's problems, we can take the House. Once again, I said, "I'll give money -- maybe even lots of money -- when the Democrats take all this crap Republicans are handing them on a silver platter and DO SOMETHING." Back and forth, back and forth. I finally had to tell him I had no more time for him.