Has anybody heard about indictments Friday....scary stuff

[MellowOne]

Now, I know that some people don't put much stock in flocco, to put it politely, and others think he's a hero. I haven't been following him long enough personally to form an opinion. But this would help explain Fitzgerald's recent website.

http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/CiaPlameCaseIndictments.htm

This article comes from
Tom Flocco.com
http://tomflocco.com/

Bush—Cheney CIA/Plame case indictments released this morning
Date: Friday, October 21
Topic: --


Bush—Cheney CIA/Plame case indictments released this morning

Bush orders Fitzgerald fired and espionage indictments quashed

by Tom Flocco

Washington, DC—October 21, 2005—12:00 EST—TomFlocco.com exclusive—Today Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald handed over 22 indictments to Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, accusing President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard Cheney and others of espionage, obstruction of justice, perjury and a variety of other charges in the matter of the CIA/Valerie Plame leak-gate case.



According to intelligence sources who spoke with federal whistleblowers Thomas Heneghan and Stewart Webb, Bush then ordered Gonzalez to fire Fitzgerald and have the indictments quashed and sealed.

Gonzalez refused to release the indictments which have been handed down by the grand jury and ordered served by a judge, subjecting the Attorney General to additional charges of obstruction of justice, the sources said.

The indictments confirm our original “Bush-Cheney indicted” report on August 2, 2005.

Gonzalez was Bush’s former personal White House counsel before receiving a presidential appointment as U.S. Attorney General.

The move is reminiscent of the “Saturday night massacre” when President Nixon fired Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox in an attempt to save his presidency and obstruct justice.

Intelligence sources added that Bush tried to delay publicity about his attempt to fire Fitzgerald and quash the indictments this afternoon by ordering a diversion regarding a “Capitol Hill police attempt to disrupt a suspicious package in a car near the U.S. Capitol.”

The move to distract attention from the indictments occurred not long after the receipt of process by Gonzalez, according to intelligence sources with knowledge of the events.

[stevedeshazer]

1. Nice try

The Archibald Cox defense won't work.

The facts trump any fiction one could write about his. You can't make it up.

[Botany]

2. All speculation as of now

the blow back from Fitz being fired would be lethal to bush.

[Sanity Claws]

3. Well I guess we'll find out Monday

I don't believe. At least not yet.

[EST]

4. BS detector hooting again.

[glaucon]

5. Flocco makes shit up

:)

[FreedomAngel82]

6. I thought he couldn't be fired?

:shrug:

[Akoto]

7. Firing Fitzgerald would be mind-blowingly stupid, even for *.

It would practically be an open admission of guilt before everyone watching the situation. That's not how * works, or at least, how Cheney/Rove work. They like things they can tidily sweep under the rug.

My bet is that somebody will fall on their sword and shield the higher-ups. I'm hoping for more, but it's difficult to not be cynical at this point.

[longship]

8. Flocco makes things up.

Or, he's delusional. I can't figure out which.

[dmr]

9. Bush* can't fire Fitz. n/t

[tularetom]

10. I doubt that this is true but I almost wish it was

Firing Fitzgerald would be the thing that IMHO would wake up the librul media in this country and I think it would backfire on * big time. We all remember the Saturay Night Massacre. It would also scare congressional repubs so badly that they would scamper like cockroaches away from the administration. Remember those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it (or somethin like that).

[MnFats]

15. i remember the shitstorm after Cox was fired. That was shocking..

...and it pretty much sealed Nixon's fate. Now THERE was an asshole.

[enid602]

19. evidence

But if Bush did fire Fitz (thereby quashing the investigation) would the names of the indicted and the evidence presented be lost, or would this info be released to the press? The evidence would surely be as damning as the actual sentences (if carried out).

[MissWaverly]

11. Not true see below

Cover-Up Issue Is Seen as Focus in Leak Inquiry
By David Johnston
The New York Times
Friday 21 October 2005
Washington - As he weighs whether to bring criminal charges in the C.I.A. leak case, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the special counsel, is focusing on whether Karl Rove, the senior White House adviser, and I. Lewis Libby Jr., chief of staff for Vice President Dick Cheney, sought to conceal their actions and mislead prosecutors, lawyers involved in the case said Thursday.
Among the charges that Mr. Fitzgerald is considering are perjury, obstruction of justice and false statement - counts that suggest the prosecutor may believe the evidence presented in a 22-month grand jury inquiry shows that the two White House aides sought to cover up their actions, the lawyers said.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/102105Z.shtml

I think that after the charges are formalized that the grand jury must vote on the charges.

[Walt Starr]

12. Flocco is so full of shit, Gonzales CANNOT fire Fitzgerald

Only one man could fire Fitzgerald, that was Comey. Now, nobody can fire him. He has three choices:

1) He decides to close up shop next Friday and go home.

2) HE indicts next week.

3) He requests an extension from the judge.

The OSC ends if 1) happens. If he indicts, it ends when the cases wrap up or if Bush pardons everybody. If 3) happens, it continues for some time to come.

Flocco was the same moran(sic) who claimed the Chicago Grand Jury had indicted Bush some weeks ago.

[kohodog]

13. This guy is nuts

We've been through his bs before. I don't know what motivates someone like him, but don't fret. It isn't true.

[AndyTiedye]

14. What Do You Think Bush** Will Do If They Try to Indict Him or Cheney?

Whether this report is true or not, it is pretty close to what we can expect from Dear Leader if they try to indict him.

[Garbo 2004]

24. Sitting president cannot be indicted, which is why the term "unindicted

co-conspirator" became fashionable in the Watergate era. Pres must be removed from office via impeachment proceedings and then can be prosecuted.

[lovuian]

16. Get ready our Constitution is going to be tested here!!!

Can an indicted President and Attorney General fire a lawyer who delivers their indictments???

Get ready people!!! a decision will be made
Who will you follow???

the LAW or

King George???

I quote the Magna Carta 1215 the foundation of our constitution!!!

No king is above the law!!!

We will see if we are in the land of total Dictatorship??? God help us all!!!

[MellowOne]

17. This whole thing could get really nasty before it's over n/t

[enid602]

22. lawyers

I would guess that Bush and company have an entire gaggle of high-priced lawyers waiting in the wings.

[mirandapriestly]

18. I read that Fitzgerald has always announced indictments on

a web page and THAT is what the web page is for. I'm hoping that is the reason for the web page.

[lovuian]

21. Yes but their is always the back door deals to save America

the least amount of damage!!! The weekend is a good time to do this!!!

[lovuian]

20. Congress should be held responsible not supporting this

investigation!!! The GAO and the FBI AND CIA had to do this all themselves!!!

Congress should be charged with obstruction of justice!!!

[goforit]

23. Just what I've always said "1st arrest, then convict, then impeach"

"Intelligence sources told TomFlocco.com that the military or U.S. marshals should arrest Bush, Gonzalez, Cheney and others immediately for their criminal acts in keeping explosive espionage, obstruction and perjury indictments hidden from the American people, all of which affects U.S. national security."


This is the only way to deal with pathological psychopaths!!!!