Oct. Surprise in 1980 and bin Ladin's brother's death....connected ?

[EVDebs]

The Gary Sick book October Surprise investigates the Reagan/Iran October Surprise...as detailed in Reagan/Bush treason 'theory' by Sick regarding Iran, Carter, and the 1980 election
http://www.answers.com/topic/october-surprise

Something strange here for DUers to investigate
"May 29, 1988
Salem bin Laden
42, brother of Osama bin Laden Near San Antonio, Texas Ultralight Took off and crashed into high power lines and fell 115 feet to the ground. 1 killed " from

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/famous1980s.htm

however PBS's site says something different
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen /...

"Like his father in 1968, Salem died in a 1988 air crash...in Texas. He was flying a BAC 1-11 which had been bought in July 1977 by Prince Mohammed Ben Fahd. The plane's flight plans had long been at the center of a number of investigations. According to one of the plane's American pilots, it had been used in October 1980 during secret Paris meetings between US and Iranian emissaries. Nothing was ever proven, but Salem bin Laden's accidental death revived some speculation that he might have been "eliminated" as an embarrassing witness. In fact, an inquiry was held to determine the exact circumstances of the accident. The conclusions were never divulged."

Has the press ever investigated this ? Also, why would PBS print something and then print an 'editor's note' denying the BAC 1-11 information ? Ever hear of fact checking prior to publication ? A BAC 1-11 cannot reasonably be confused with an ultralight, see picture at
http://www.simviation.com/gallery/fsdgallerybac111bav.h ...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. Read more carefully. PBS does NOT "deny the BAC 1-11 information".

The page you link does not contain the text. The text you quote does not support your assertion.

[EVDebs]

3. Read the 'editor's note' , text will not copy into my post , denies it .

Again, why even put in an 'editor's note' if they had 'fact-checked' to begin with ?

[jobycom]

2. It was an ultra-lite

The BAC story was a popular one to promote the idea of a conspiracy. Rumors always start in these situations and get reported by journalists eager for something to say, like when Carnahan's crash (and just about every other crash) was initially blamed on icing. The BAC story, from the sources I've read, is largely debunked even by conspiracy buffs. See: http://www.rense.com/general14/brother.htm

The death was suspicious because of who it was, and the timing. Not just the October Surprise, but the BCCCI scandal--the head of BCCCI was connected the the other Bin Laden, Usama, through marriage, and was also connected to Salem (IIRC) through an airport. Add in Abbie Hoffman's suicide after investigating the matter, and it's hard not to be suspicious.

Here's the thing that makes me most suspicious about the whole Bush family. Salem bin Laden was probably an investor in W's first business. He was close enough to the Bush family to be linked in rumors. The BCCCI scandal linked Bush and the Bin Ladens. At roughly the same time as Salem was giving money to W (a little later), his brother was receiving funds and training from the US in Afghanistan. Okay, skip to a different story. Reagan is shot by John W. Hinckley. Hinckley's father was a Bush donor in the 1980 Repub primaries. Hinckley's brother was supposed to have dinner with Bush's son Neil the night Reagan was shot (verified publicly by Neil--no questionable theory in anything I'm stating here). John W. Hinckley lived in Lubbock at the same time W. lived in Lubbock, and not very far apart. George W. claims he never met John W., but George has a documented history of lying, even under oath (James Bath, during a federal investigation in 1992), about knowing people he knows. There families were friends at the time, but supposedly no one told the two Ws that they lived a few blocks from each other?

That's a lot of direct coincidences. Not vague second and third degree coincidences, either. Most conspiracy theories sound like the Kevin Bacon game, but in these are direct links.

[EVDebs]

4. So who do are you going to believe ?

From the Rense article

From the Rense.com article

""It was kind of a weird deal," said Schertz police Lt. Stephen Starr, at the time the city's acting police chief. "He just drifted up into the wires."

It has been turned into an even weirder deal by conspiracy theorists - with the unlikely help of the Public Broadcasting Service. In the 2000 PBS Frontline special report, Hunting bin Laden, PBS reported that Salem bin Laden died in a 1988 Texas plane crash - not in a hobby-kit-type, one-man ultralight, but in a full-size British Aerospace BAC 1-11. The death "revived some speculation that he might have been 'eliminated,' " PBS reported, adding that an accident report was "never divulged.""

So, either PBS is guilty of verrrrry poor reporting or the only sources of information on the BAC 1-11 plane crash were suddenly made 'secret', or Rense et al haven't made their material public enough.

BTW, the plane crash info site on famous crashes I mentioned in my original posting at least in 2001 had the BAC 1-11 information on their website, NOT the ultra-light story. Who made the changes ?