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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:51 PM
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Stripes letters: "the current U.S. admin. is a fascist one, by definition"
Read all of these Stripes letters below, in today's Stripes--they're excellent.


‘Reality’ requires truth

I feel compelled to respond to “Major offers his answers” (letter, Oct. 14) and the writer’s chastising of a previous writer, stating that she needed “to stop slurping at the selfish, short-sighted trough of appeasement and take a long draught of reality.”

I don’t know what type of reality he may be referring to, but my type of reality requires the main ingredient, the truth!

The major stated that we are fighting “Islamo-fascist terrorism.” Was this some “newspeak” word he learned in war college? Fascism, by definition, is the marriage of business and government, so by the strict sense of the word, we could logically imply that the current U.S. administration is a fascist one, by definition.

The writer also states that Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons on his own people, but he fails to realize the truth — that Saddam acquired his stockpile of weapons from the Reagan administration, along with the Germans and French in the 1980s. Saddam gassed Iran with our blessing, as well.

The writer of “Major offers his answers” also says that “evidence has been found showing multiple contacts between Saddam’s government and Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida organization.” I think that he needs to take a sip from his own “draught of reality,” because there has never been a piece of evidence ever found linking the two, period.

The sad fact is that people are caught up in the sensationalism of the moment and the past is always being conveniently forgotten. That is short-sightedness. I am in no way a fan of terrorism, but I refuse to sacrifice the truth for posterity. The hard and sad truth, major, is that the U.S. supplied Saddam in the ’80s, and there are no connections between secular Saddam and radical bin Laden. I know the truth hurts, but turn the boob tube off and pick up a history book sometime.

Henry Hubbard
Ansbach, Germany


Another Jane needed

Hey, guys and gals, why don’t you ask one of us involved in the Vietnam War about Jane Fonda? She was my hero, and I do not mean this sarcastically.

She was one of the few prominent people who kept the opposition to the Vietnam War alive in the United States and riled enough anti-war liberals throughout the world, the U.S. and in the military itself to force that proven unjust war, which had been based on political lies, to an end.

Wars like Vietnam and what is happening now are not a reality show. They cost, and are costing, a lot of lives on both sides. Walk along the Vietnam memorial in Washington, D.C.; and those were just the USA’s gift to the politicians who fought anything in my generation that fell under the “angst” word of communism. Are we starting on another memorial? This time, the new phrase is Muslim Terrorism and the fear is propagated by the self-righteous Christian right, who would deny the right of heaven to anyone but themselves.

Let’s get another prominent Jane Fonda-type who will rile up enough of our U.S. and world citizenry to make our politicians cringe enough to stop playing God with our young people. This will probably not happen, since the prominent wealthy and middle class are no longer sending their kids to the all-voluntary forces like they were made to during Vietnam, when the draft got most of us. The families of the less fortunate have no lobbies.

Air Force Maj. Klaus-D. Paul (retired)
Kaiserslautern, Germany


‘What’s the real issue?’

“AF filling nontraditional roles in combat zones” (Los Angeles Times article, European and Mideast editions, Oct. 12) by Mark Mazzetti and Greg Miller said: “Straining to find ground troops to maintain its force levels in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Pentagon has begun deploying thousands of Air Force personnel to combat zones in new jobs as interrogators, prison sentries and gunners on supply trucks.”

Isn’t this the same Pentagon that says the Army is at its optimum size and has been insisting all along it had plenty enough troops there to do the job?

What’s the real issue? They won’t admit they were wrong? Are they looking for another way to criticize the real ground forces (i.e. Army)?

Robert D. Doleman
Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, Germany


http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32520

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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:10 PM
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1. Kick, in honor of the Bush administration
Rooster one day, feather duster the next
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:44 PM
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12. crowing like little banty roosters, as my dear Gram used to say
about braggarts.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:13 PM
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2. "The families of the less fortunate have no lobbies."
That's a strong dose of truth.

And from a retired Air Force MAJOR, no less.
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:21 PM
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3. The folks in uniform are usually trying to do right by their country
It's the wingnut politicians that are the problem.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:30 PM
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6. NOV 2nd...
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 01:31 PM by ClayZ
The World Can't Wait!
Drive Out the Bush Regime!
Mobilize for November 2, 2005!
sign and circulate

Your government, on the basis of outrageous lies, is waging a murderous and utterly illegitimate war in Iraq, with other countries in their sights.

Your government is openly torturing people, and justifying it.

Your government puts people in jail on the merest suspicion, refusing them lawyers, and either holding them indefinitely or deporting them in the dead of night.

Your government is moving each day closer to a theocracy, where a narrow and hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism will rule.

Your government suppresses the science that doesn’t fit its religious, political and economic agenda, forcing present and future generations to pay a terrible price.
<snip>

www.worldcantwait.org
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:27 PM
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4. Wow - That's quite a collection!
It is so good to see this. It makes me sad that soldiers are in this situation, but I am so very glad that some of them are being vocal about the truth.

:patriot:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:11 PM
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23. Wow Is Right... Holy Mackerel was my exclamation
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:27 PM
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5. Oh thank God!!
I'm moving to a military town here in Germany and am so thankful to see there are a few standing up to the war. I don't plan on wearing my DU shirt to Bunko night - but I'll have faith not everyone I socialize with is a freeper.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:30 PM
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7. I visited a US base in Germany last weekend
and saw "Vote Kerry" signs spray-painted just outside the gates. Still there, after all these months. :)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:49 PM
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15. Wow, still there?
Nice!
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:50 PM
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16. I photo'd them
will post when I get some energy, maybe when the indictments come down? :)
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:59 PM
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30. my Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers on my 3 old cars, fading not quiting...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:31 PM
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8. I remain, not surprised
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:37 PM
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9. I think this is the first time the "f" word was applied to the Bushies
in Stripes.

Great timing.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:44 PM
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11. It's applied to them quite a bit outside of the Stripes
living abroad makes a difference,IMNSHO - on how military people think and see things.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:20 PM
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25. Considering the source
you've made me very happy!

There are a lot of "tree dwellers" in my neck of the woods, but the current avalanche of crock is waking a few up.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:29 PM
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26. I've noticed more and more people are questioning everything
and people are truly tired of the constant deployments.

But there is a big difference between here and CONUS duty stations. Here you don't live in an echo chamber unless you just absolutely choose to - so many different people and different ways of doing things, that attitudes can't help but change.

Posts in CONUS are more isolating , I think anyway - though one would think the opposite would be true.

I've found that soldiers that don't like living abroad, leave as soon as they can (and they are usually the most clingy tree dwellers)...but those that do? Fight tooth and nail to remain.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:36 PM
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27. Bush had his chance in the international arena
Now he's on the verge of leaving the WH after 5 mere years, blowing his big opportunity to learn how to say "eff off" in sixteen languages.



The Chimp couldn't win now if a Vegas blackjack dealer offered to show him the second card~.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:42 PM
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10. My oh my. Reading these really lifts my spirit.
:hug: Thank you so much for sharing!!! :bounce:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:46 PM
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13. So they are looking for the truth and finding it.
This lifts my spirits. Thanks for positing this.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:46 PM
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14. Anything but to take responsibility
The Bush administration and those involve will never admit they were wrong. To them it's a sign of weakness etc. Really sad how we've gotten to this point as a country.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:54 PM
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17. Wow...just wow.
:wow:

Kicked and nominated. Too bad I missed the fifth vote (I was the sixth).
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:59 PM
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19. Yours is the vigil vote
which we keep, in anticipation
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:57 PM
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18. Fascism indeed! W is doing things Stalin only dreamed of...
The main thing of course is using religion to exploit people for partisan politics. The second letter explained it far better than I could!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:00 PM
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20. The troops are starting to see the light...
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 02:01 PM by Hubert Flottz
That mAnn Coulter lover was the very reason nobody will join the Army! They don't want to hang out with fools.

Jane Fonda????? "Blessed Be The Peacemakers!" Who's side would JHC be on?

Edit Ooooops
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:06 PM
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21. Hey! Whaddaya get when ya cross anal warts with a Bushie snitch?
Nothing.

Anal warts don't stoop that low~!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:09 PM
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22. I would have guessed Rush Lamebrain!
Are you getting ready for Fitzmas in Germany? * Tis the season ya know!
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:16 PM
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24. I've been having the best sleep in years
passing time watching the Daily Show's Republican National Convention 2004. Remember when McCain blasted Michael Moore in his keynote address? McCain is looking like a floating turd right now.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:37 PM
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28. McCain is as bad as Bush!
Loves the rat party more than his country! When he hugged Bush in public after Bush trashed him like he did, I knew what I had suspected all along about him was true. The man has no pride! Money fuels his every move! Soulless worm just like the rest of his ilk.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:49 PM
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29. Maybe Bush sang McCain a round of "2, 4, 6, 8, who do we appreciate?!"
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 02:58 PM by lebkuchen
and just like that, wiped away all the bad blood. Or else McCain was paid off, "big time."

They're maggots in the meat market, both of them. Name one person allied to Bush who isn't a failure, just like the Chimp.

I hope you've escaped any hurricane/wet weather damage. A friend is headed to Ft. Lauderdale as soon as it's feasible to fly...windows broken out, no electricity...a real mess for millions, but don't hear much about it in the news.

Off to catch up on the sleep I've lost in the last five. Good to "see" you again. This is going to be a good year after all. ;)

On edit: spoke too soon. Here's Jebbie, blaming the Wilma hurricane victims for their plight.

“People had ample time to prepare. It isn’t that hard to get 72 hours worth of food and water,” said Bush, repeating the advice that officials had given days before Wilma blasted across southern Florida early Monday.

That oughta win him some votes. :sarcasm:

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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:16 PM
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31. Outstanding! There was a local guy running for office here in SE MN
who published the factual points about fascism and the clear evidence of same in this unelected mis-administration; really surprised me to see how many people asked questions about it in our sleepy little town, and said they had thought the same thing...
Glad to see we have men and women serving who have the real courage and love of country to be able to see it honestly and to speak out about it.
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lostexpectation Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:45 AM
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32. Hanoi Jane
will cindy ever do a hanoi jane, has she ever left the country to protest elsewhere, not that she particular should.
but she definilty shouldn't sit smiling on any aircraft guns that free advice :)
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