BREAKING: ROVE, LIBBY INDICTED! GRAND JURY EXTENDED

[Halliburton]

http://dailykos.com/story/2005/10/26/12518/309

Richard Sales broke the story way back in January of 2004 that John Hannah was flipped. So I say his sources are pretty reliable.

here's a link to his blog:
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/

[Greeby]

1. He better not be fuckin with us

My heart is pounding like a jackhammer

[Halliburton]

2. no annoucement today though

I guess the Thursday prediction was right?

[Clark2008]

3. Let's see how quickly this spreads.

Nominating.

[Seen the light]

4. Forget this

I've gotten my hopes about 100 times on this stuff so far, I'm not celebrating one bit until I hear something directly from the Fitzgerald office.

[Sean C.]

60. Well

How about until the convictions, then? Not trying to be snarky (I actually tend to agree with you), but I'm just extending the view which you just espoused for waiting until justice is actually served here.

[Toots]

72. You are putting words into someone else's mouth

The poster said nothing about waiting until justice is served before celebrating. Having top Administration officials indicted for serious crimes is worthy of celebration in and of itself. If they are convicted then we can celebrate even more but do not deminish the fact of indictment. It probably would mean the dismissal of those involved which I personally find very attractive.

[Sparkman]

64. Patience...there are many in the know, with perfect integrity so far.When

the news is proclaimed by bureacrats on OUR side we should expect them to measure (differently from the Repub/Corp.-Capitalists)upto the standard that will earn them respect and confidence while they prosecute some of the worst elitist partisians around today.

[Marnieworld]

5. That is exactly what I wanted.

Indictments but a continued Grand Jury to get them all on everything. Please St. Patrick Please!

[Greenpeach]

I'm with you, friend! n/t

[ClayZ]

47. Two down,Twenty to go!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[jim3775]

6. Gonna have to do better than some guy's livejournal as a source n/t

[Joe Chi Minh]

19. I think we can be fairly confident that O'Ness Fitzgerald

has forgotten more about nailing felons than we'll ever know.

[AlCzervik]

7. it says "Are to be indicted" and the story for that link is from yesterday

[papau]

8. WOW - but"no announcement today, but likely Friday." is a 48 hour wait

that my heart may not handle well!

:-)

[Just Me]

9. Steady. S-T-E-A-D-Y.

I am so emotional, today. :cry: Crying over Kerry's speech. Angry over the last five years of criminal "leadership". :grr: Anxious as all get out over this Plamegate situation. :scared:

[Supersedeas]

51. You are doing fine...and it was one of his better speeches.

[Pithy Cherub]

10. woohoo! It is so ON!

:woohoo:

Merry Fitzmas!

[rodeodance]

36. something is happening of great importance. my bones finally feel it.

[Just Me]

50. I suppose that could explain,....

,...my unusual moodiness, today. I'd like to believe so.

[FizzFuzz]

70. mm-hmmm!

I tend to get all oogie-koogies over people I admire, and let me just say, I've got the oogie-koogies in SPADES over Mr. Fitzgerald.:patriot:

[jsamuel]

11. extended because of the Niger Doc investigation from Italy

"The probe is far from being at an end. According to this reporter's sources, Fitzgerald approached the judge in charge of the case and asked that a new grand jury be empaneled. The old grand jury, which has been sitting for two years, will expire on October 28.

Thanks to a letter of February, 2004 which Fitzgerald asked for and obtained expaneed authority, the Special Prosecutor is now in possession of an Italian parliament nvestigationi into the forged Niger documents alleging Iraq's interest in purchasing Niger uranium, sources said."

[rodeodance]

15. "Aides To Be Indicted, Probe to Continue" (Larry Johnson).

I got this as an email

------- Original Message --------
Subject: read now
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:02:19 -0500
From: xxxx
To: xxxx


Aides To Be Indicted, Probe to Continue

by Larry Johnson
Wed Oct 26th, 2005 at 10:50:36 AM EDT
For your background, Richard was the first to tip me last year to the developing Larry Franklin spy scandal, which proved to be right. - LJ

Aides To Be Indicted, Probe to Continue

By Richard Sale, longtime Intelligence Correspondent for UPI

This comes to us courtesy of Pat Lang at turcopolier.typepad.com. I've found Richard to always be on target in my experience. -- Larry Johnson

Two top White House aides are expected to be indicted today on various charges related to the probe of CIA operative Valerie Plame whose classified identity was publicly breached in retaliation after her husband, Joe Wilson, challenged the administration's claim that Saddam Hussein had sought to buy enriched uranium from Niger, acording to federal law enforcement and senior U.S. intelligence officials.

If no action is taken today, it will take place on Friday, these sources said.

I. Scooter Libby, the chief of staff of Vice President Richard Cheney, and chief presidential advisor Karl Rove are expected to be named in indictments this morning by Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.

Others are to be named as well, these sources said. According to U.S. officials close to the case, a bill of indictment has been in existence before October 17 which named five people. Various names have surfaced such as National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley, yet only one source would confirm that Hadley was on the list. Hadley could not be reached for comment.

But letters from Fitzgerald, notifying various White House officiials that they are targets of the investigation, went out late last week, a former senior U.S. intelligence official said.

Most press accounts emphasized that Fitzgerald was likely to concentrate on attempts by Libby, Rove and others to cover up wrongdoing by means of perjury before the grand jury, lying to federal officials, conspiring to obstruct justice, etc. But federal law enforcement officials told this reporter that Fitzgerald was likely to charge the people indicted with violating Joe Wilson's civil rights, smearing his name in an attempt to destroy his ability to earn a living in Washington as a consultant.

The civil rights charge is said to include "the conspiracy was committed using U.S. government offices, buildings, personnel and funds," one federal law enforcement official said.

Other charges could include possible violations of U.S. espionage laws, including the mishandling of U.S. classified information, these sources said.

That Vice President Cheney is at the center of the controversy comes as no surprise. Last Friday, Fitzgerald investigators were talking to Cheney's attorneys, and detailied questionnaires, designed to pin down in meticulous sequence what Cheney knew, when he knew it, and what he told his aides, were delivered to the White House on Monday, these sources said.

The probe is far from being at an end. According to this reporter's sources, Fitzgerald approached the judge in charge of the case and asked that a new grand jury be empaneled. The old grand jury, which has been sitting for two years, will expire on October 28.

Thanks to a letter of February, 2004 in which Fitzgerald asked for and obtained expanded authority, the Special Prosecutor is now in possession of an Italian parliament nvestigation into the forged Niger documents alleging Iraq's interest in purchasing Niger uranium, sources said.

They said that Fitzgerald is looking into such individuals as former CIA agent, Duane Claridge, military consultant to the Iraqi National Congress, Gen. Wayne Downing, another military consultant for INC, and Francis Brooke, head of INC's Washingfton office in an effort to determine if they played any role in the forgeriese or their dissiemination. Also included in this group is long-time neoconservative Michael Ledeen, these federal sources said.

On the Hill, Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), democratic whip, are asking for public hearings to lay bare the forgeries and how their false allegations ended up in President George Bush's State of the Union speech.

[rodeodance]

16. saying that target letters went out late last week.

But letters from Fitzgerald, notifying various White House officiials that they are targets of the investigation, went out late last week, a former senior U.S. intelligence official said.

[rodeodance]

21. "a bill of indictment has been in existence before October 17"

.....Others are to be named as well, these sources said. According to U.S. officials close to the case, a bill of indictment has been in existence before October 17 which named five people. Various names have surfaced such as National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley, yet only one source would confirm that Hadley was on the list. Hadley could not be reached for comment.

But letters from Fitzgerald, notifying various White House officiials that they are targets of the investigation, went out late last week, a former senior U.S. intelligence official said.

[rodeodance]

22. charged with civil rights violations regarding Joe Wilson.

..Most press accounts emphasized that Fitzgerald was likely to concentrate on attempts by Libby, Rove and others to cover up wrongdoing by means of perjury before the grand jury, lying to federal officials, conspiring to obstruct justice, etc. But federal law enforcement officials told this reporter that Fitzgerald was likely to charge the people indicted with violating Joe Wilson's civil rights, smearing his name in an attempt to destroy his ability to earn a living in Washington as a consultant.

The civil rights charge is said to include "the conspiracy was committed using U.S. government offices, buildings, personnel and funds," one federal law enforcement official said.

Other charges could include possible violations of U.S. espionage laws, including the mishandling of U.S. classified information, these sources said.

[rodeodance]

23. Kenneday and Reed are asking for public hearings.

...On the Hill, Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), democratic whip, are asking for public hearings to lay bare the forgeries and how their false allegations ended up in President George Bush's State of the Union speech.

[Roland99]

30. YES!!

[gkhouston]

45. No!!

I don't want anyone offering anyone immunity to testify before Congress mucking things up for Fitzgerald. We've waited this long, we can damned well wait until Fitzgerald gives the all-clear. I wouldn't be surprised if he want to extend the grand jury and dig deeper.

[rateyes]

48. I'm with you....

let's not DARE allow a Repig controlled committee offering immunity to anybody. That's the reason Oliver North is on the radio instead of listening to the radio from his prison cell.

Edited after learning to spell.

[cosmicdot]

69. re a possible civil rights violation

would these be the statutes?

CONSPIRACY AGAINST RIGHTS

Summary:


Section 241 of Title 18 is the civil rights conspiracy statute. Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree together to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the Unites States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same). Unlike most conspiracy statutes, Section 241 does not require that one of the conspirators commit an overt act prior to the conspiracy becoming a crime.

The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/crim/241fin.htm



TITLE 18--CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

PART I--CRIMES

CHAPTER 13--CIVIL RIGHTS

Sec. 241. Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or
intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the
premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured--

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined
under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or
both, or may be sentenced to death.

~snip~

http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title18/parti_chapter13_.html


DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW

Summary:


Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.

For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.

The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/crim/242fin.htm


TITLE 18--CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

PART I--CRIMES

CHAPTER 13--CIVIL RIGHTS

Sec. 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory,
Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title18/parti_chapter13_.html

[KnaveRupe]

39. Obvious error

"On the Hill, Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), democratic whip, are asking for public hearings to lay bare the forgeries and how their false allegations ended up in President George Bush's State of the Union speech."


I would expect anyone with enough inside knowledge to be trustworthy about this to know that Reid is the Senate Minority Leader, and that Dick Durbin is the Senate Democratic whip.

Just a grain of salt to take this story with, while hoping it's acdcurate in all other respects.

:)

[wryter2000]

43. Larry Johnson has never lied to me eom

eom

[rodeodance]

38. saysk Fritz is asking for a new grand jury.

[Delphinus]

54. This Niger information

could be what brings the dark lord cheney down ... I hope. Man, I don't want to wait until Friday. It's a sunny (sometimes) day and now's the time to bring them down.

[DURHAM D]

12. Not surprised that the investigation is continuing - I heard on

MSNBC about an hour ago that Fitzgerald's staff has been calling White House staffers on the phone just this week to get statements and that they just interviewed Valerie's neighbors this week wanting to know if they knew she was CIA. Seems like they have a lot of work to do yet.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. Glad to hear they aren't just stopping

I'm glad that they're going forward. Who knows what he might uncover.

[converted_democrat]

13. I can't hardly breathe, I can't stop crying.Please, please, please be. n/t

[Roland99]

14. Gen. Wayne Downing part of it now?

The whole INC aspect is being considered.


Wow.


Although, it's interesting Downing is part of this. He resigned in frustration.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A58799-2002Jun27¬Found=true

[KittyWampus]

52. Downing Sounds Like A Stand Up Commander Who Couldn't Handle

the corruption and abuse of the military by inexperienced WH Bureaucracy.

IMO, he sounds like he'd be compelled to cooperate with Fitzgerald's investigation.

[KingFlorez]

17. Oh, please God let them get caught

Let them go to jail, let them rot in some filthy cell with the rats gnawing at their eyes!

[demnan]

18. Merry Fitzmas, everyone!

:woohoo:

[Bumblebee]

20. Please let it be accurate! I am afraid to hope.

[Just Me]

26. Whew boy, do I know what you mean.

:hug:

[crispini]

24. Well, well, well.

Wouldn't THAT be a pippin. Best of both worlds: indictments, AND an ongoing investigation. Even if they're sealed.... I could live with that.

[DemReadingDU]

25. Richard Sale posted at NoQuarter today

Wilson's civil rights violated. Conspiracy.
Cheney is center of probe


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5176556

[deadparrot]

27. If this is true...

:woohoo:

However, I won't truly celebrate until I hear it from the horse's (Fitz's) mouth.

[rodeodance]

29. yeah, i know the feeling.

[femrap]

61. Me neither.....

I am waiting until Fitz has his Press Conference and tells us....then I am going out for my champagne and Yellow Cake mix. Doesn't that sound tasty? Oh, and maybe some chickenhawk wings, too!

[deadparrot]

63. I'm treating myself to some Chinese food.

It's my favorite, and it'll be a little Fitzmas gift to myself, should the indictments be issued. :)

[rodeodance]

28. nominate

[rodeodance]

33. Fritz looking at the Niger stuff. Hear that Cheney!

.....Thanks to a letter of February, 2004 in which Fitzgerald asked for and obtained expanded authority, the Special Prosecutor is now in possession of an Italian parliament nvestigation into the forged Niger documents alleging Iraq's interest in purchasing Niger uranium, sources said.

They said that Fitzgerald is looking into such individuals as former CIA agent, Duane Claridge, military consultant to the Iraqi National Congress, Gen. Wayne Downing, another military consultant for INC, and Francis Brooke, head of INC's Washingfton office in an effort to determine if they played any role in the forgeriese or their dissiemination. Also included in this group is long-time neoconservative Michael Ledeen, these federal sources said.

[mucifer]

31. no indictments TODAY Al Franken stated

on his show that his cousin another Franken who reports on cnn told him.

[writes2000]

35. No announcement today. We have no idea if there are indictments yet. n/t

[LeftHander]

32. There were sealed indictments...

Dated October 17th....


Is this what I am reading?

[hang a left]

46. that is what I read, I think it actually said before or by the 17th.

Also target letters were sent out late last week.

[rodeodance]

37. kick

[Historic NY]

40. Certainly that makes sense , the GJ would need to be extended...

as Fitz has more fish to fry. That folks is the why of his website.

[milkyway]

41. This thing will blow wide open if the grand jury is extended. nt

[wryter2000]

42. OMFG

If this is true, it's the best Fitzmas I could have hoped for.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:applause: :applause: :applause:

:toast: :popcorn: :toast: :popcorn:

[bleever]

44. If it's from Larry Johnson, I'm taking it to the bank.

[Perky]

49. Won't bleieve it til I see it on AP or CNN (n/t)

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. They are more reliable?

WOW?

They have been behind the power curve (on purpose) all along

[Corgigal]

55. Sounds reasonable

Does is sound to anyone else that Libby=Cheney, Rove=Bush ?

I can certainly wait another 12-14 months for that.

[kpete]

56. update

Update/Leak indictments
An hour ago I was contacted by a U.S. government official close to the Fitzgerald case. This person told me that there WILL be indictments announced later this afternoon, and the Special Prosecutor will hold a press conference tomorrow.

More from Richard Sale

http://turcopolier.typepad.com /

[libodem]

57. let this be true

and i swear i won't gloat or get drunk and party all night!

[Arkana]

58. I've had it with this shit

I've been on tenterhooks the entire day.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

59. As I said in another thread, this is the BEST POSSIBLE SCENARIO

Indict Rove and Libby and whoever else.

Turn up the heat by extending the GJ investigation. Keep digging until you get to the bottom of it.

Then bury them all.

I am tingling with joy (if this is true...)

[dutchdemocrat]

62. Strange

On the same site - between the latest and the explosive. It's very rough and nearly impossible to read. Like he was drunk. Very weird.

http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2005/10/the_niger_forge.html

[Hepburn]

65. Fingers crossed that the indictments...

...come down for more than just obstruction and perjury!

[eridani]

66. OK, so the guy might be a good guesser, usually--

--but I take it this is not official yet?

[hang a left]

67. nope

nothing official

[darkism]

68. World Series and Fitzmas on the same day?

This is the best I've felt in a long, long time!

[zanne]

71. Please don't do that!

Unless you're 100% positive, don't jerk us around like that! Dammit!