Libby and Rove are JUST THE WARM UP! Fitz is going for the BIG FISH!

[berni_mccoy]

Anyone who thinks there will be no indictments is not listening to what's being reported.

We now know from several reporting agencies / papers / journals / media that Rove and Libby WILL BE INDICTED (merry Fitzmas). And we know they are being indicted for perjury, obstruction and Libby is being indicted for unlawful disclosure of a CIA agent's ID.

We also know that the Grand Jury Investigation is being extended.

We know that the FBI is helping by VALIDATING that there were no other sources of leaks (questioning neighbors, friends, relatives). It was reported that so far, the FBI has not found any other potential sources of identity leaks.

We know that Fitzgerald has looked into the Niger documents.

We also know from former CIA and intelligence members that Fitzgerald is taking this investigation BEYOND THE LEAK. That only says one thing to me: DSM and the lies that TOOK US TO WAR. Plamegate is inherently "connected at the roots" with the DSM and the illegality of the IRAQ WAR. Senator Kerry spoke out today that this is the case: THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE LIED TO IN ORDER TO TAKE US TO WAR WITH IRAQ.

Fitzgerald is likely investigating this, as this is the most HEINOUS of crimes that was EXPOSED by Plamegate.

I now believe that Fitzgerald is going after Bush, Cheney and the entire WHIG. The Bush Administration WILL END IN DISGRACE. Those guilty WILL BE PROSECUTED. JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED.

Fitzmas, like the holiday it was derived from, symbolizes a new hope: the hope that America is waking up from its slumber to set things right.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

1. I hope you are right.

It would be a terrible precedent if this criminal behavior goes unpunished to the maximum of the law.

[ClassWarrior]

2. We know nothing yet.

We may have a pretty good idea, but NOTHING is official yet.

NGU.

[Vincardog]

3. Will this be the end of the NeoConvicts? I hope so.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. NeoConvicts! Good meme!

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. I love it - Neoconvicts

did you make that one up?

I love to give credit where credit is due.

[Vincardog]

37. Yes but I can't say nobody else did.

It fits soooo well

[mmonk]

4. I know nothing but hope for alot

[femrap]

5. Hope....it has been a long time since I have felt

such a large dose of it.

I think you're rigth....this is the beginning of the end of this evil, fascist regime.

[electropop]

6. It'll take a while yet,

but these people will be swept from power and America will begin rebuilding. I expect Chimpy himself will be gone by August 2006. This will occur because his top minions in Congress will all be in jail or in court, swept up in numerous scandals of their own making: Abramoff, insider trading, etc. Once the top tier of cronies is gone, the second tier (low in status and power) will have to start proceedings, because they will be desperately trying to save their own jobs. Won't help them much though. 2006 will be a banner year for America.

[wryter2000]

16. Perhaps

He might be gone before his term expires, but I wouldn't say August 2006. He won't be ousted unless we win one or both houses of Congress in November 2006.

[Blue Belle]

23. Plus... how powerful is the top teir anyway?

Delay is indicted, Frist is under investigation, and it's only a mater of time before Hastert is under investigation (should the FBI investigate Seible Edmons story). The Republican party would be smart to step aside from this radioactive administration.

[electropop]

42. RIght, I forgot about Hastert & Sibel.

She could make Abramoff look like a small case, and Abramoff makes Traitorgate look like a small case. The Party is about to implode.

[FreedomAngel82]

30. Could be

Someone in the astrology forum predicted a good long time ago that a woman with blonde hair will bring down Bush (Plame/Wilson has blonde hair). So I'm hoping that the truth will come out and we can start to make the wrong things right.

[longship]

7. R&K

This needs to be said to defuse all the "there will be no indictment" screaching.

[wryter2000]

17. I understand the "no indictments" posts

I'm not of that opinion, but after all the crap * and Co have gotten away with, it's not a bad self-defense strategy to believe NOTHING until it's definite.

[oregonindy]

8. and we know that our system is corrupt at its core and everybody

will be pardoned.

[Greenpeach]

9. "A consummation devoutly to be wished!"

Don't know why "Shakespeare" just felt like it. And I do so hope you're right!:bounce:

[glitch]

22. Perhaps because Bush reminds you of Richard III? Could it be?

Belated welcome to DU!

[Joe Chi Minh]

32. In your dreams....!

[crispini]

10. We don't KNOW anything

until Fitz opens his mouth.

That said, the wind does seem to be blowing in a favorable direction.

[crispini]

11. We don't KNOW anything

until Fitz opens his mouth.

That said, the wind does seem to be blowing in a favorable direction.

[Algorem]

12. Will there be a champagne shortage by New Year's Day?

[eleny]

14. Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!

I like the way you think!

[symbolman]

39. The CONTINENTAL!

I LOVE THIS GUY, this cracked me up so much that I basically created a cartoon character based on him called "Mr Nice" (bet some folks here don't know I was/am a cartoonist :) )

Here's the link: http://www.mrnice.com

And as far was the call on this thread this is EXACTLY what my FILM presupposes Plamegate and DSM are JOINED AT THE HIP -- I filmed the DSM hearings in DC (back when no media were supposedly going to cover it) and realised soon after that it's all ONE BIG SCAM, and that the Plamegate was only a Symptom of the larger disease..

My film is called "Rove's War", 2 DVD set, a 150 minutes of RED MEAT with the DSM hearing as an anchor - have a look, see the preview at
http://www.takebackthemedia.com

Good CALL.

[gristy]

44. ooh, ooh, ooh

Almost forgot. Got my copy in the mail today. Time to have a look...

[berni_mccoy]

13. WOW: Even the troops are getting RESTLESS!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5172945&mesg_id=5172945

[WinkyDink]

15. Perhaps this is what is giving Kerry the courage TODAY.

To get ahead of the to-be-revealed LIES.

[alarcojon]

18. Boy, do I hope you're right

if so, Fitz will go down in history as a great American hero.

[jarnocan]

31. I second that

the spew on cue crew is beginning to target him and that is the mark of a true american hero. http://www.millionphonemarch.com/impeach.htm great resource/Action

[converted_democrat]

19. From your lips, to Gods ears..............n/t

[MellowOne]

21. If nothing else, America is waking up

And talking about our reasons for war. The invesitgation will open the lid off the pot of corruption. Everybody I know is talking, and it ain't pretty what being said.

[stewert]

26. To be Accurate........

We know that Fitzgerald has asked for indictments on Rove and Libby for perjery and obstruction of justice, and that he also asked for an indictment on Scotter for outing a CIA agent.

What we dont know is will the grand jury agree with him and actually indict them for one or all charges.

We also do not know if or how many other people will be indicted, so really we dont know there will be indictments for sure. We only know Fitzgerald asked the grand jury to indict Rove and Libby.

And in reality it is all still just a leak that has not been confirmed by anyone official.

[SheilaT]

28. Do we really know that?

Or is it just rumor and hearsay?

[tamtam]

25. *** sigh***

I hope and pray you are right because it's been a long road for this country. While reading you post I actually found myself holding back the tears. It seems we get so close to justice only to have justice fail us. I don't think this country can take more of this madness. We have 2001 dead men and women their deaths the result of a war of choice.

I'm keeping the hope alive and I hope this country will stand strong. Your optimism is much appreciated.

[Timmy5835]

27. Remember the make up of the Grand Jury

With the make up of the Grand Jury such as it is, if Fitzgerald wants inditments, he'll get them.

[Joe Chi Minh]

33. As someone else said, "Karma's a bitch...!

[FreedomAngel82]

29. I hope you're right

I've had a strong feeling since I first got into this case a couple of months ago that he was going after someone huge. Whether Cheney or Bush or both. Remember he also got those Air Force One calls so who knows what is on there. Didn't Colin Powell testify as well? He's been publically showing a guilty consceious although I think he's just trying to save his own ass from going to jail. I've always had the thought that if one of them was brought down they all will. Everything they do is connected and to the same person (Bush).

[ClassWarrior]

34. Why, bernie, do you drop big bombshells like this, then pretty much...

...disappear so you can't defend them?? Huh? Just seems...well... curious to me...

NGU.

[berni_mccoy]

35. You won't provoke me out of my spider hole...

woops!

:rofl:

[SharonRB]

36. From your lips.....

I sure hope you're right. It's more like the 12 days of Fitzmas and Fitznukah all rolled up into one.

[corbett]

38. From Your Keyboard To God's Ear!

http://www.dccc.org/campaignforchange

[Straight Shooter]

40. Provide a link confirming GJ investigation being extended, please.

Thanks.

[berni_mccoy]

41. UPDATE: WE NOW KNOW

Fitzgerald Just rented D.C. OFFICE SPACE: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5185447

Still having doubts?

[MADem]

43. It's mighty convenient to the WH, too

Let's hope he has good security--we can't be having any break-ins, now, can we???

[buddysmellgood]

45. Now stop that! You're getting me excited.