Libby will commit suicide before trial

[hiabrill]

He's never been a man who wanted to be in the limelight and now he's the main focus in this leak.


I say he commits suicide before his trial...... 30 years in the slammer is a certainty IMO

[still_one]

1. nope, they will wait tell it dies down, then * will pardon him

[ourbluenation]

5. but you can't pardon anyone unless they are convicted of

something first, right? He would have to have a trial and conviction before chimpy can take out his pardoning pen.

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. You can be pardoned

before you are convicted.

However, it is unlikely that Bush will be pardoning anyone involved in this case, since he is involved too. The abuse of power would be too much for even Congress to ignore.

[still_one]

15. wasn't nixon pardoned by ford? He wasn't convicted

[3trievers]

25. I disagree

This administration doesn't give a sh*t what the people think because they know they can scream abortion and gay marriage and the nutbars will go wild.

[DoYouEverWonder]

27. This is a new dawn

and the nutbars no longer matter.

Maybe you are too young to remember the last days of Nixon? What we are about to experience will be Nixon on steroids.

[still_one]

13. then how do you explain Ford pardoning Nixon?

[pretzel4gore]

24. you can't, but it destroyed ford, and nixon, in the end....

the best the rightwing could come up with was that 'it saved the country from trauma' to explain away the sneaky middle of night pardon....ford became and has never emerged from the shadow of, a tool, beneath contempt. it was as if both ford and nixon were no longer righties. btw ford is still alive, in a potted plant way...ford once marvelled that lee harvey oswald was fbi operative number 18181 (or whatever) at the time he was set up for killing dear JFK :(

[MoonRiver]

31. Ford had NOTHING to do with Watergate.

Still, he destroyed his political career by pardoning Nixon. He made the choice. I don't think * will do it though, because the one thing his "family" won't tolerate is a tarnished legacy. Might be too late for that but they are going to try and keep it as polished as they can.

[goclark]

37. That apple is not shining at all right now and unless

something dramatic changes, the Bush Crime Family is gone.

Jeb could not even deliver the last Hurricane Water Bottles.

[Garbo 2004]

39. GHWB pardoned Iran/Contra folks. All they have is tarnished "legacies."

Like Iraq's going to be a highlight of his administration? September 11. Record deficits. This guy has literally mortgaged the national gov't to China. "Tarnished" is too mild a word for the legacy of this administration. They don't care.

[MADem]

38. No, ask Cap "the Knife" Weinberger n/t

[Garbo 2004]

40. Not common to pardon folks prior to conviction but it's been done.

Ford pardoned Nixon athough he was not yet indicted. Unusual case. To spare the country a trial said Ford.

GHWB pardoned Caspar Weinbuger before he went to trial, he wasn't convicted of anything. Another pardon went to Elliot Abrams who GW appointed to the National Security Council. (GWHB pardoned 6 Iran/Contra guys.)

Check out what Old George said when he pardoned the Iran/Contra defendants, it will have a familiar ring:

Bush said the prosecutions of the persons he was pardoning on Christmas Eve represent "what I believe is a profoundly troubling development in the political and legal climate of our country: the criminalization of policy differences." http://www.fas.org/news/iran/1992/921224-260039.htm

GW's gang is just playing by the old playbook daddy used.

[The Backlash Cometh]

2. This is a little extreme.

First, we don't know Libby, but if someone is that adverse to the limelight, they don't do the kinds of things Libby did. Not in the high profile position he was in.

I'm more concerned about him flying in small planes.

[Pepper32]

11. I share your concern

I'm also concerned about 'them' making a suicide happen.

[Jose Diablo]

3. I'd say he looks despondent

or a clear case of auto-erotic misadventure.

[Christa]

4. I doubt it

He will be too scared he'll go to hell.

[wake.up.america]

7. The sad thing about this: their willigness to cover up for...

Bush and Cheney.

Can't wait until Bush and Cheney turn on each other.

[Jose Diablo]

8. It IS a way to explain both the cause and manner of death

thus blunting any further investigation into an untimely death. It wouldn't be suicide, he just screwed-up, sort of like having an accident. But he is still dead and cannot speak about what he knows.

Plus, that form of death is, how can I say this, nasty. Anybody that would die in that manner, well they got what they deserved. Thats generally how the public would view it.

Edit: He is imaginative, look at the poetry he sent Judith. Who can say, maybe they shared adventures together. Two for one, so to speak.

[Skittles]

10. he is going anyways

nt

[Zynx]

26. The Neo-cons are actually not generally that religious.

They care much more about money and power than heaven and hell.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. You mean he'll shoot himself in the back of the head like J. Hatfield?

[malaise]

9. or he will be suicided

Any trial will be the trial of the administration over the lies leading up to the invasion of Iraq.

[Pepper32]

14. Bingo!

[TahitiNut]

36. He'll be suicided ONLY if he doesn't fall on his sword.

If he even hints at exposing Cheney and the extreme criminality of the regime, he'll have an accident or be suicided.

[terip64]

16. I hate to say it, but have you seen how big Cheney is?

I am afraid he will have a heart attack, quite likely, and take all the attention off of this thing. I hope for libby's kids he doesn't kill himself. But Cheney, he's a heart attack waiting to happen.

[Jose Diablo]

18. "Who will rid me of these meddlesome priests", in a manner of speaking

There is a possiblity of a "White Knight" riding to rescue Junior.

Those microwave ovens can be dangerous, even at a distance. There is nothing like the good old flesh and blood original, when comes to the heart.

[DemonFighterLives]

17. I was thinking the same a minute ago

An actual suicide, but I don't know enough about Libby to know what is in his mind. I know he must now be in a lonely place with 30 years in the hoosegow(sp) hanging over his head. I also would never put it beyond the crime family to help him to suicide. It is in their MO and I hope Fitz has read up on it. Libby needs protection from the thugs, himself included. Of course it is now his choice to spill the beans or go straight to hell.

[Popol Vuh]

19. A co-worker and I

During lunch we were talking about this. We were joking about reading hypothetical headlines in a news paper saying "Libby commits suicide" and in fine print at the bottom of the article "Doctors say cause of death was 4 gun shot wounds to the back of the head"

:+

[elehhhhna]

28. make that "4 surprisingly accurate long-range gunshots" lol

[Chan790]

20. "Suicide"

Suicide as in someone is going to kill him and make look like suicide, right?

There was that moment in the Fitzgerald press conference yesterday when someone asked Fitzgerald if they were going to arrest Libby and he said "No" and all I could think was: If I'm Scooter, that's the worst news I've heard all day. Throw me in solitary...please.

The question is who is going to get to him first, the BFEE because he's a threat or the CIA because they don't let people get away with what he is accused of doing and have their own way of "justice"?

My money is on the second...and it just "happens to happen" the same day that Cheney has "a fatal heart attack" and someone close to the shrub takes a fall up and down a few flights of stairs a couple times. You'd think that Bush would have been smarter than this...he's got to know what the CIA is capable of or you'd think daddy would have at least told him by now.


Yeah, I have a tin-foil hat.

[hiabrill]

23. yes that's the mostly likely scenario

now that my tin foil hat is on as well.....

Who would ever doubt he committed suicide...

[tanyev]

21. Pardon, and a nice little place somewhere in the Caymans.

Scooter has been a good and faithful servant.

[ElectroPrincess]

22. Yes! I noted the fact that

Scooter is LOOKING quite depressed. Yes, he does. ;). After Wellstone, a plane crash would be hard "to imagine." Aye? Perhaps an accident of some sort? .... why is that Sting song running through my head?!? ..."by the numbers 1 2 3, it's as easy to learn as your A B Cs." :evilgrin:

BTW what is this sh*t about Sandy Berger ... the FrepTARDS are really passing around pathetic talking points. :P

[NNN0LHI]

29. He is going to agree to cooperate with the investigation and recieve...

...federal protection in a jiffy.

Don

[Catchawave]

30. Oh, I hope not....

Afterall, "he's innocent, nothing to hide, made a mistake" so I'm even surprised he resigned ! :sarcasm:

[pola]

32. i don't agree because he has 2 very young kids

i think he will sing, and try to get reduced time for new info. because he has 2 small children.

[hiabrill]

34. I guess I might be wrong after all

[Syncronaut Seven]

33. Nope, pardon, the day after the 2006 midterm elections.

Path of least resistance, lets not get all dramatic.

If Libby is "suicided" it won't be his choice.

[DearAbby]

35. EEEEEEEEEEeeeee.... that thought crossed my mind this morning

[mtnsnake]

41. Jack Ruby anyone?

I hope not. Right now, Scooter is the gateway to Cheney.

[FreedomAngel82]

42. He'll go down Tom DeLay style

[Garbo 2004]

43. Nothing is a certainty. He could cut a deal, get lesser sentence, possibly

even convince a jury that he's not that bad.

In any case, with a Presidential pardon as a distinct possibility, no reason for him to totally despair.