Reid has something big! That's the only thing that makes sense here.

[Jackpine Radical]

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Reid_takes_Senate_into_closed_session_1101.html

Reid wouldn't do this just to ask questions. Frist would have everything back on track in 30 seconds. Reid HAS SOMETHING BIG! He's telling, not asking.

Let’s take a look back at how we got here with respect to Iraq Mr. President. The record will show that within hours of the terrorist attacks on 9/11, senior officials in this Administration recognized these attacks could be used as a pretext to invade Iraq.

>snip<

We demand that the Intelligence Committee and other committees in this body with jurisdiction over these matters carry out a full and complete investigation immediately as called for by Democrats in the committee’s annual intelligence authorization report. Our troops and the American people have sacrificed too much. It is time this Republican-controlled Congress put the interests of the American people ahead of their own political interests.

He could even be blowing the lid off LIHOP (or worse) right now if you read between the lines.

[Jacobin]

1. Maybe he found out who forged the Niger documents

:woohoo:

[Junkdrawer]

10. I was about to post that...the trail leads from Feith to Rumsfeld?? to...

Cheney??

They all need to go. Perhaps Fitz doesn't know how to indict a sitting VP or Sec. of Defense

[Stephanie]

28. It's the Niger docs for sure - that's behind everything

There's an investigation going on in Italy right now- the truth will out eventually - they can't stifle an Italian investigation.

[Jackpine Radical]

34. And Mussusconi has been making some interesting noises lately.

So--maybe that.

[NNN0LHI]

2. Something is up n/t

[Jackpine Radical]

5. No bloody shit, Don!

You can just smell it.

[helderheid]

3. It's a good day --- So proud to be a Dem!

[Lex]

4. I tend to agree. Something big has caused this to happen.

I want to know what it is!

[malaise]

8. Could this be the biggest thing yet

could this be 9/11 itself??

[HereSince1628]

14. Well, Hatch threatened Armageddon in the Senate over Alito

Armageddon, that's pretty big.

[Mizmoon]

6. I'm almost afraid to hope ...

where is that "I'm biting my nails" smilie?

[Roxy66]

7. I heard Ried say that too....They used 9/11 for Iraq war

[Birthmark]

9. Not to burst any bubbles...

...but it could just be laying the groundwork for the mid-term elections. That would be good, too.

OTOH, that seems somewhat unlikely to me given the action he's taken. So perhaps he IS onto something big.

[helderheid]

12. you know I honestly don't give a damn why they are fighting back - just

damn glad they ARE!

:bounce:

[Birthmark]

21. Yup.

I just read the unofficial transcript that was posted and I do now think that there is something larger at work. I don't know if he has something on the bastards or he's just plain had enough.

But as we used to say in the 70s, there's some shit goin' down somewhere.

[Jackpine Radical]

24. It was that transcript that caused me to post this thread.

You're right. I think it points to some kind of dynamite.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

11. 2000 slaughtered US soldiers is all the "big" they need

but I think Rove's about to be indicted too

[ewagner]

13. Whether he does or doesn't

it's a gutsy, gutsy move....and I'm proud of him for doing this. We needed an act of defiance in the wake of the Libby indictment to show the Repubs that times have changed and we're not going to let them step all over us anymore.

Nicely done Senator Reid. Nicely done.

[FreedomAngel82]

15. Very interesting catch

I didn't think about that. Maybe he knows about PNAC?

[The Witch]

16. That was my first thought too.

If I'm right on this I will definitely join Fairfax Democrats because I obviously have a decent political compass.

[Jane Austin]

17. He has something big, all right.

He has The Truth on his side.

He got that form letter from the White House, and I think that pushed him to take this bold step.

[The_Casual_Observer]

18. Iraq isn't big enough?

The USA occupies Iraq.

[Lex]

20. Well, ummm . . . that's been the case for awhile.

What caused Sen. Reid *today* to demand a closed session? That's the question, I think.

[carolinalady]

19. Frist cannot get it back on track until they actually have the

session and he finds out what is up. Security sweeps are done first and take a while I believe.

[Jackpine Radical]

22. Only takes a majority vote to reopen for business as usual.

There is just no point in Reid doing this with no followup. He has to have something big and unanticipated enough to keep the doors closed for a while, or he ends up looking like a monkey.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

23. Dear me, I hope so,

but it's so freaking hard to believe...

[C_U_L8R]

25. Hope they emerge

with articles of impeachment.

That would warm my heart ":-)

[Opusnone]

26. Somebody has pictures

Or a recording
Or fake documents
Or a whistleblower - Libby perhaps?

Who would have thought C-Span would be the best reality TV ever?

[H2O Man]

27. Cheney n/t

[ewagner]

29. Whoa!

Wouldn't that be something......

are you just wishing, or is that an "informed judgement"?

[H2O Man]

31. Both. n/t

[ewagner]

35. In that case......

[Jackpine Radical]

36. Well--maybe I was a little premature in my call on this one.

Or, to be more blunt about it, "wrong."

[understandinglife]

30. Ditto.

Peace.

[understandinglife]

33. And, I agree, Reid is not playing. This is not a political stunt.

Watch their faces when they walk out of the room ...


Peace.

[lumberjack_jeff]

41. It would be a brilliant political stunt...

Keep everyone's attention on the big pile 'o crap that needs to be addressed to the exclusion of all other business - including Scalito.

But I'm starting to agree - there is something else going on.

[Jackpine Radical]

32. Why do you think that in particular?

I mean, I don't doubt Fitz has chapter & verse on Cheney, but why would Reid do this in the way he's doing it? Wouldn't he let Fitz name him as an unindicted co-conspirator first?

[H2O Man]

37. A number of reasons.

And those reasons include, but are not limited to, the following:

Reid is a rather conservative fellow. He would not be doing this now, unless he was aware of something very large. Note that he quotes Cheney about Iraqi nuclear weapons. Count the quotes, and consider Cheney's assertions.

Reid also speaks about the manipulation of intelligence. Those who were afraid to speak openly about the aggressive stance Cheney and Libby took at the Agency, especially after seeing their attack on Wilson, have provided information to some members of the intelligence committee.

Just as Libby has been called the "firewall" protecting Cheney, we might consider the vice president at risk of being one of the smaller back-fires set to stop a dangerous forest fire. The Agnew model should serve us well in our examining this concept. Those who have stepped in to help Curious George recognize that he has to cut the VP. He needs the distance. They have lap dogs like Dick Morris writing op-eds that are pointing the finger at Cheney.

[Jackpine Radical]

38. My initial thoughts about Reid were also that he wouldn't do this

without having something in the bag, but I expected him to do a dump in the closed session, and the way the afternoon developed was not in my mind suggestive that he really had anything ready to go. Of course he could always be playing rope-a-dope with Frist, getting the Good Dr. Mengele & his minions to overextend himself before dropping the bomb....

[H2O Man]

39. Cheney & Libby

reportedly held back documents they were requested to provide to the committee. There was a report that they went against the advice of aides and attorneys. That was a serious error. It is one of a few.

[LunaC]

40. MIHOP comingn to a theatre near you

ROCKEFELLER —> KNOWS! — > PNAC~PNAC~PNAC!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5233655&mesg_id=5233655

Also see
NOW NOW NOW MORE THAN EVER!! (Don’t come bitchin’ to me later!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5234698&mesg_id=5234698

[Skidmore]

42. I asked earlier today

Who else thinks the Dems have a smoking gun, or two or three?
Maybe in that closed session they pulled out pictures of said weapons and told the Rs to not try anything cause there are other copies out elsewhere and several people know about them.

[riderinthestorm]

43. I'm wondering if Reid was just trying to regain the offensive

It would be a feat in and of itself if Reid and the Dems can just continue to keep the White House on the defense. This move has the effect of notifying the White House that the Dems aren't lying down, that the WH can't control the agenda, that the Dems have maneuvers of their own to fight back and they will use all tools.

Besides the topic is solid gold. The Dems can't lose at this time in history by taking the position that the pre-war intelligence must be examined as a huge part of the unseamly underbelly that was just exposed by Libby's indictment. Perfect timing.