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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 03:25 PM
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There are secret CIA gulags because THEY ARE torturing people....
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 03:26 PM by Postman
If they weren't torturing people, there wouldn't be a need for secret CIA gulags in eastern Europe...
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 03:27 PM
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1. W has averred the US does not torture if you buy that
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 03:28 PM by indepat
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 03:30 PM
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2. which would be scarier to you.
the fact that we torture and Bush lies about it or,

Bush doesn't know that we torture people and it's being ordered from VERY HIGH LEVELS of the US government.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 03:54 PM
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4. The latter would be scarier for probably another example of disassembling
or two could be found whereas if he did not know about this, would he know about anything?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 03:30 PM
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3. This is as always the truth meant to mislead
We either call it something else, or we contract the work out to another country.

Bush has been torturing the English language for years!
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 04:06 PM
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5. Oh that crap.
They redefined torture. (I think it was gonzales or roberts who did the redefinition.) So when they beat the living crap out of you and sometimes whoops you die as long as they didn't INTEND to cause pain equivalent to major organ failure (whatever that means) it isn't torture, its interrogation.

Just 'cause you can hear the screams from belgrade doesn't mean that we are 'torturing' them.

Also sexual humiliation rape and deliberately induced fear of torture and or death aren't torture. See Abu Ghraib.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 04:10 PM
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6. Of course. Also, we have to ask WHY they are in existence?
There is a reason they have these in existence. It is not simply to imprison people.

It is most probably to create scapegoats, use people for experiments, GOD knows what. However we must find out.

Perhaps they are creating monsters to sick on innocent people.

Perhaps they are doing all of the above.

Whatever it is, it is to be against the natural order of every living thing. If you believe in God, it couldn't be further from the Godly order of things.

Creating torture and evil producing facilities like this is contrary to almost all of us, and that is exactly why it is so hard for us to comprehend.

However we have to comprehend what these sick individuals are capable of doing, so we will understand the seriousness of what is happening and stop the usage of innocent human lives for their sadistic purposes.

If we as Americans don't stop what is happening, we will be held accountable, while the evil doers stand the chance of escaping what they have created.

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 04:44 PM
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7. The CIA, those paragons of humanitarianism, torture!!!?
After all the splendid, selfless, charitable work they rendered in Greece, Chile, Guatamala, El Salvador, Haiti, Angola, Congo, Mozambique, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and countless other nations?

I'm soooo shocked.
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