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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:41 AM
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Poll question: Would we be so hard on the Iraq deception if not for the Clinton Witchhunt
Time to take your pulse.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:43 AM
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1. This is worse
than Watergate in my opinion.....what Clinton and Nixon were vilified for did not cost the lives of thousands of people.....
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:44 AM
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2. I would be just as hard on the Iraq deception even if there had been..
NO Clinton witchhunt. The two don't even come close.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:44 AM
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3. That's hard
I am relishing their discomfort and looming defeat, but I honestly feel I'd be just as outraged about the war if they hadn't gone after Clinton.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:27 PM
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10. My feelings come closest to yours.
Another thought to add. First, I think we'll find out that what they did to Clinton in the 90s was part of an orchestrated effort that culiminated in the Iraq War.

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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:45 AM
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4. There is absolutely no comparison, morally.
The question is, has the prosecution become institutionalized as part of the presidency...
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:45 AM
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5. A lie that needlessly puts young men and women in harm's way and
kills innocent civilians in another country as well is worthy of the harshest scrutiny and punishment.

You can't get a life back once it's gone. It doesn't matter if it all turns out to be based on lies. The dead are still dead and nothing will change that.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:46 AM
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6. The lies involved in the Gulf of Tonkin
resolution were pretty heinous, too. And the American people fell for that, as well.

The most appalling thing about Americans' willingness to fall for this rubery *again* lies in the recent historical lesson that was available for anyone to see.

What's that old saw? "There's none so blind as him who will not see?" Is that it? That's us, the U.S.

Just prior to March 2003, the number of people opposed to the war were so few (less than 30% maybe?) that we were effectively drowned out by the clamor for war and grim death.

The best exegesis on this national phenomenon lies in Mark Twain's "The War Prayer" written when we were pulling this stunt in the Phillipines. http://www.lnstar.com/mall/literature/warpray.htm
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:53 AM
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7. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive at all.
The acts themselves warrant any and all bashing they receive, but to say that we aren't at all enflamed by the hypocrisy involved is a flat out lie. Perhaps the degree would be nearly the same, but I don't think you can separate the two.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:53 AM
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8. If not for the Clinton witchhunt, we would be in Gore's second term
And would not be in Iraq.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:30 PM
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11. Yes. But I think that the plan to go into Iraq was already in motion,
which is why Clinton and Gore had to be dispensed with.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:56 AM
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9. Uh,

Hell Yes!



Clinton's penis has nothing to do with this!
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:51 PM
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12. I find it simply amazing that this is news AT ALL.
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 12:52 PM by Village Idiot
I can't remember a war that the USA has ever been involved with that did not involve a lie to get the USA into it...

REMEMBER the Intolerable Acts - There were lots of lies bandied about by smugglers, like John Hancock, to start the Revolutionery War
REMEMBER Tippecanoe - Used as a pretext, again, by smugglers incensed by an 1807 French, anti-US, anti-smuggling edict to justify US involvement in the War of 1812.
REMEMBER the Maine - Spanish-American War, 1898. Spanish complicity never proven...
REMEMBER the Alamo - US-Mexico War, line used to justify abrogation of the Adams-Onis Treaty of 1819...
REMEMBER the Lusitania - WW I
REMEMBER Pearl Harbour WW II
REMEMBER the Gulf of Tonkin - Vietnam
REMEMBER the Saudi border - Gulf War I
REMEMBER 9/11 - Gulf War II


sigh...why can't we all just get along?
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