Who else believes that any attack on Wall-Mart smells like elitist Dems

[heidler1]

to the vast number of people that shop at or work at Wal-Mart? Therefore, more than likely the attack is counter productive. Especially if the attack is by someone who never goes to Wal-Mart and brags about it. I expect this to be purged.

[sarcasmo]

1. I loathe Walmart and am no where near an "elitist Dem"

Corporate Fascism at it's finest. Look up the dollar amount that Walmart gives to the Republican war machine.

[_testify_]

2. I got yer back.

It does smack of elitism sometimes.

However, the documented abuses of Wal-Mart employees is something all Americans should be concerned about.

[Orangepeel]

25. it isn't just abuse of employees

it is also unfair competition and predatory pricing practices which hurt small businsses and suppliers.

[_testify_]

41. You know, I think I would be okay with Wal-Mart if they

paid their share of taxes. That goes for every other corporation of their monolithic size...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

46. They have also successfully killed manufacturing in our country. Many

of their suppliers..ie Levis was forced to close US factories and produce at cheaper overseas prices because they were made offers they couldn't refuse.

[Somawas]

31. Still, there are more effective ways of acting to end those abuses

that do not smack of elitism. www.wakeupwalmart.com Sign up and adopt a Wal-Mart. Do something worthwhile instead of whining.

[_testify_]

40. Agreed, but who's whining? I was answering the OP's question.

[Somawas]

45. I understand, but

I'm tired of being accused of elitism because I'm a progressive. A guy who believes in the traditional values of the Democratic Party, like fair wages, decent American jobs and such. And the Leave Your Cart crap is elitist.

Therefore I favor working people supportive methods of calling attention to the evils and abuses of Wal-Mart and other such corporatists.

[_testify_]

47. Cool by me. I am 100% in agreement that supporting the

workers in places like this is much preferred to making them miserable, and then telling them you wouldn't have to have done it if their bosses weren't pricks.

[William769]

3. A special message to Wall-Mart

FUCK YOU! Have a nice day. Or as Bob Dole use to say (after getting his ass kicked by President Clinton) "welcome to Wall-mart".

[SomewhereOutThere424]

4. That's why wal mart has a class action lawsuit filed against them...

For white slavery charges?

[brainshrub]

5. No. Defenders of Wal-Mart are the elitists.

Only an elitist who is out of touch with the needs of the working poor would defend the business practices of Wal-Mart.

[vi5]

6. So wanting workers to get fair treatment is elitism?

Wow, who would have thought that? I guess I'm an elitist then.

[SomewhereOutThere424]

7. Sign me up on that bandwagon too

Better an eletist than a sell out.

[Vincardog]

9. Roger that

Better an eletist than a sell out.

[heidler1]

11. The example of elitism would be in the put down of the items that many

people buy from Wal-Mart are referred to as low class or that the jobs are called low class in so many words. These people have their pride too and most posts here in about Wal-Mart dwell on these faults. I agree that the intent of Wal-Mart put downs is valid, but how about the results?

[vi5]

23. Really? Who said that?

I don't recall anyone on here talking about "low class" jobs or even that people who buy from there are "low class". Yes, they are most of the time economically disenfranchised and Wal Mart is the only game in town at the prices people can afford. But I'd be curious if you could find or link to a post that calls the workers or their jobs "low class".

[SomewhereOutThere424]

24. I wouldn't say it's against the people

I mean a wal mart worker is just a worker like everyone else -- but I think the referance is on the aspect of their practices (both to their customers and to their workers). As I said above, wal mart has a class action white slavery suit against them in the works, for holding their employees after hours without ability to leave and forcing extra hours, or firing them.

If I misunderstood your meaning though then I apologize, and the post is not meant beratingly.

I personally just buy all my products off of ebay anyway...internet sales will probably do away with them, and other small home businesses anyway. I'm starting to think in the future it'll all be done online, through inspiration or forced competition.

[Bill McBlueState]

52. me too

All aboard the elitist train, if that means advocating for workers' rights!

[SammyBlue]

8. I HATE WALMART (caps on purpose)

And I am not an elitist Democrat.

Well, maybe. . .if you could the college education, an advanced graduate degree, possible law schoo and a broad knowledge of the English language. . .maybe I am an elitist.

But compared to these Republican neanderthals, a sloth would be considered an elitist.

[Walt Starr]

21. I do to

mostly because all they sell is cheap plastic crap that was made in China.

[mitchtv]

36. The big gorilla in the room

They give poitical donations in large amounts to Pukes only. I get the impression they don't want, or need Dem's business; glad to oblige

[hfojvt]

37. I was at a mall shoe store, looking at the $60 shoes

and they were all made in China, Taiwan, Indonesia, etc. Same thing at Cabellas, and they were not cheap. Things like clothes, shoes, and basic groceries are available at Wal-mart, and not just cheap plastic crap. I have been in grocery stores and marvelled at all the pop, sugar, cigarettes, alcohol, and National Enquirer that seems to be their stock in trade. There always seems to be a market for crap, or things that are not healthy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Do some readying and them come back to us

start with how Walmart treats their workers adn then do some readyiong on Fascism

I'd have zero problems with Walmart if their practices were not so damaging

[heidler1]

17. See my above reply.

[durablend]

12. Definitely elitism!

And anti-American as well. Just remember, that nifty Funai VCR you bought last week for 50 bucks and will have to be replaced with ANOTHER ONE in three months + one day (after the warranty expires) all go towards helping this here Murikan economy and Wallmart's bank account!

Yessiree!

:silly: :sarcasm:

[slor]

13. Who else believes that any defense of wal-mart stinks...

to high heaven? The fact is, wal-mart's policies are "counter productive" to the American people, whether you shop there or not, and to the Chinese slave labor/workforce. I feel sympathy for those that work there, and to those that are limited to shopping there. But that hardly makes any criticisms/facts about the company invalid or "elitist".

[stray cat]

14. Is it better to be employed at WalMart or to quit?

If people quit - what are their current options for something better?In other words, what do Walmart employees say about the whole thing. I believe in a living wage but I also know there are a lot of jobs out there that are not even close. We need to improve conditions for workers across the board.

[Orangepeel]

30. it is better to unionize and work politically for living wage legislation

although I understand why people with no time, no money and a family to support don't want to do that.

Walmart employees work there because they believe it is the best option for them. And, it probably is. Hopefully, we can work toward a world where there are better options.

[heidler1]

42. Exactly.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. Better an elitist Democrat than a redneck Repuglycan.

What the hell is an "elitist" anyway. I had a freeper coworker call me an "elitist" because I read all "those damn books" and used "big words".

[xchrom]

16. i like democratic elitists.

never understood what was wrong with them.

[sandnsea]

18. DLC attacking corporations

Riiight. Heard it all now.

[Walt Starr]

19. Who else believes that Wal-MArt enthusiasts

simply like sending money overseas for cheap plastic crap made in China?

[SidDithers]

20. Purged yet?...nt

Sid

[mitchtv]

29. what on earth is taking so long?

someone has the nets out, I'll bet
I wanna trollskin rug

[stepnw1f]

22. Durrrrrrrr... Red Meat from Red Meat Head Land

Fuck Walmart and all their investors... OK? Is that elitest to you? Too bad!

Monopolies are the antithesis to a fair market and a Democracy! Get your priorities staright or leave the country.

[Cleita]

26. What exactly is an elitist Dem?

The only time I was ever accused of being an elitist was by freepers.

[TahitiNut]

49. It's code. Like "New York liberals" or "liberal elitists"

It's the blame-shifting rhetoric of the Reich. :shrug:

[Snotcicles]

27. My family makes do with less because we would rather pay a little more

for what we do buy, knowing we are helping other families get a better break. We can do without the piles of cheap imported crap and the obsession to want everything in brightly colored bubble rap. Checkout what Robson Walton is worth. Last I saw it was $18.3 Billion. Thats opulence. Shame on them.

[Mr_Spock]

35. Haven't shopped at WalMart for over 18 months and counting...

Thanks DU for making me aware of the many problems with WalMart :D

[Mr_Spock]

28. More attacks on Dems for despising the EVIL WalMart empire...

I am thinking that all this attention will actually motivate more people to do something about WalMart - thanks in advance.

It surely is motivating me - my civil disobedience will be fun :D

[mitchtv]

33. Visit Walmart, buy nothing and say "UNION"

loudly near employees.
$80 million a year in social services to Walmart employee families in CA alone WTF?

[Mr_Spock]

38. Incredible what happens when government and corporations are the same...

Republicans are so incredibly evil and bad for this country. They can't imagine planning more than 3 month ahead :eyes: This is why simple minded Repuke morons cannot be allowed to be in power for long...

[Ladyhawk]

50. Not a living wage at all. :(

It hurts those of us who are on disability, too, because the government has to take care of those who are working as well as those who cannot. People who work should be able to live on what they are paid, don't you think? Republicans, how does this encourage people to work? It's terribly unfair.

Meanwhile, most of our taxes are spent on bombs, tanks, warplanes, etc. so we can attack nations that can't defend themselves and steal their oil. The Republicans don't care about workers...or the disabled. I've watched as health care for the poor has deteriorated. It gets worse every year, and for what? So we can kill random brown people overseas? America, your "priorities" and "values" have become something to be ashamed of.

There's a screening of "Wal*Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices" in my town this Friday. I may go. I think it's important to know exactly what's going on and how best to deal with it. (As someone who has worked retail, I really loathed the "leave a cart" idea. Sorry.) I've nearly stopped shopping at the local Wal*Mart despite the fact that it's just about the only place to buy certain things. I just do without or order over the Internet. Hey, when you're trying to live on disability, it's easy not to shop anywhere. :)

[PassingFair]

32. I loathe Walmart

and I am sub-urban "white trash".
I shop at BigLots and Aldi and CostCo.
(I'm lying, I also go to Kroger's for some stuff)
If I can't find it at those 3or 4 places, I don't need it.
I would NEVER shop at Walmart.

[Quixote1818]

34. Who made attacking Wall-Mart a Democratic issue?

Seems to me that Wal-Mart is hated across party lines by anyone who has lost their business or had a Wal-Mart built in their quaint old neighborhood. Plenty of Republicans have voted to keep Wal-Marts out of their state or neighborhood.

This is FAR from a Democratic issue. It's a "real people" issue.

[Ladyhawk]

51. Or it should be.

:shrug:

My Republican mother must be getting her Wal*Mart talking points from Limbaugh or Faux. :shrug: I don't know where she gets her ideas, but she's a staunch Wal*Mart apologist...and a Limbaugh apologist...and a Faux News apologist...and an Iraq War apologist...and a * apologist...and a Sean Hannity apologist.

Sigh.

She's coming over this evening and I just can't deal right now. I think I'll go to bed.

[ms liberty]

39. Not I...

If the attack on Wal Mart targets the corporate masters who perpetuate the inexcusable wage/benefits and cheap-labor imported goods at the expense of americans; I've got no problem with it at all.

If the attack is something that primarily will impact the working poor who are the store employees - like this whole stupid cart idea - then yes, it does smell elitist. Elitist and inconsiderate, rude, childish, and ineffective.

You don't win by alienating the people you want to help.

[heidler1]

43. Well said!!!

[Solon]

44. Exactly...

The thing that really upset me is the blatant dismissal of the employees themselves when advocating this "campaign". Saying shit like, they have to do it anyways. what's the big deal? Why should they complain, they are hourly, they'll get paid overtime.(NOT!!!!) etc. etc. ad nauseum.

[AntiCoup2K4]

48. FUCK WalMart

Frankly, I think the cart business was a Freeper plant, so they could say "Oh look at those crazy anarchist commie libruls".

But Wal Mart IS shitbag fascist scum. And they get no sympathy from me.

And I'm no elitist.