Amy Goodman, Friend or Foe ?

[Neocondriac]

I came across this site the other day and was a little taken back with the notion of the possiblity of our supposed progressive heroes may in fact be quite the contrary. Your thoughts?




http://www.media-criticism.com/Amy_Goodman_03_2004.html

[NMDemDist2]

1. Amy is a treasure, she speaks truth to power no matter who it is. n/t

[stepnw1f]

2. Whatever.......

Buh Bye Bill O'Really.

[LostinVA]

3. Oh Goddess...

[Domitan]

4. If she's the enemy

then so are most leftist blogs such as DailyKos, AmericaBlog, TPM, and even for the most part DU. Many of these sites and individuals who run these outlets do not want to endorse the MIHOP theory (especially based on deeply flawed or debatable premises). Intriguing and thought-provoking discussions can be done regarding 9-11, but to label as enemies those who are very cautious or not willing to entertain the MIHOP hypothesis, is to be utterly stupid and counterproductive.

[Liberal In Texas]

5. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Just saying.

[flordehinojos]

6. is this person named Scott Loughrey the article's author?

is he a neocon in disguise? is he, for want of a better word, smearing amy goodman? she must be holding some truth to power that he doesn't like.

[donheld]

7. The best of friends

:hug:

[izzybeans]

8. .

:rofl:

[Neocondriac]

9. I'm bothered more by the funding....

by the Rockefeller Foundation. The Rockefeller's are all Bohemian Club members.

[Wilms]

10. Some people say she sat on her hands when Ohio was stolen in 2K4.

I was disappointed by that and sometimes by her shrillness.

I don't know that she's the "enemy", however.

[LeftyMom]

19. "Some people say"?

This isn't Faux news. A named source is good, a link is better.

[stanwyck]

26. You tell her

the Some People Say is talk radio/hate talker speech.
It's meaningless.
Some People Say I'm a dead ringer for Angelina Jolie.
Now...just try and find those people.

[Wilms]

30. Fair enough.

It was in the election forum where that occurred.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=395710

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=342810#342924


Still, there are some efforts displayed by Amy as noted here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=327162#327358

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=217586#219730

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=193436


There are other examples in each category.

Looking at these, she's no enemy of election reform, but you may see that for those who are serious about reform, they just wish Amy was covering it more.

I don't blame them, or her. Like I said, I don't think that makes her an enemy.

[xchrom]

11. hmmmm?

:popcorn:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Only to those whose tinfoil haberdashery is ill fitting.

Or, listen to the messages transmitted to the fillings in their teeth by Elvis.

[Neocondriac]

15. Just dismissed to lunacy heh?

I don't think anyone these days is beyond reproach. IMO

[K-W]

31. Even if she is wrong about 911, she isnt corrupt.

This innuendo mongering is silly.

[Neocondriac]

13. It just seems...

these days that so much of what we held as common truths have been obliterated. I listen to Ms. Goodman 3 or 4 times a week. I'm just tired of being fooled.

[LiberalPartisan]

14. Mr. Loughrey's tin hat is too tight

I have it from names that would like to remain quiet...

Apparently the voices in his head have no names. Unnamed sources are never a credible citation and are only ever employed as a ruse by the author to make an accusation which has no basis in fact.

Amy Goodman is a national treasure and she deserves better than the likes of Mr. Loughrey.

[Seansky]

16. Scott Loughrey hasn't earned points with many. Read his review of F911

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/LOU406A.html

[punpirate]

17. The whole point of this is that...

... Amy Goodman isn't giving the 911Truth people credence and time on her show to air their views, and to their minds, that's censorship. For that perceived crime, she's now in league with the Bushies. Seems to me that's a bit of a stretch.

The fundamental of reporting (which is what Amy Goodman is doing) is presenting facts. The 911Truth people have theories. They don't seem to notice that there's a difference.

Now, I, too, have questions. The debris--especially the structural debris--was cut up and quickly moved to scrapyards. That, in police investigation terms, ruined the chain of custody of evidence at the crime scene. It's a legitimate question to ask why that was done, because from that evidence, a forensic determination about the nature of failure could have been made. In the absence of forensic evidence, only supposition and speculation remain. In the absence of eyewitness testimony or that forensic evidence, what should Amy Goodman be reporting? Theory? Or fact?

This is sour grapes, I think. What the 911Truth people have not yet been able to do is to find the people who placed the charges they maintain brought down the buildings. And, I don't think they're looking. If those people were found, their testimony corroborated, that would be news, and I have no doubt that Amy Goodman would report it as such.

Cheers.

[Skidmore]

18. Bullhockey!!!

There are a handful of progressive journalists now pushing back against a monstrous wall of misinformation, disinformation, and propaganda. I admire Amy's tenacity and her fearlessness. She does good work.

Or perhaps people prefer Blitzer, Matthews, or some of these other fools.

[callady]

20. Overall Friend

But will refuse to go places that might damage her credibility even if those places demand coverage and scrutiny.
There is just a certain set of topics that is off limits to the left, topics that would probably rattle the foundations of peoples fuzzy notions of America or the "I want my country back" false nostalgic notions of what this nation has truly been from day one.

Still,she's done more for journalism than most journalists on Earth.

[Greyskye]

21. I'd take him with a big grain of salt

So is this the same Scott Loughrey that lost a suit filed against him for domain squatting?
http://www.arbforum.com/domains/decisions/103968.htm

He also has an axe to grind against Richard Clarke: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/LOU403A.html

Ditto with Michael Moore and Fahrenheit 911: http://www.media-criticism.com/Farenheit_911_Moore_06_2004.html

And apparently anyone who does not concede that 9/11 was a demolition job: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-36,GGLG:en&q=%22Scott+Loughrey%22




:shrug:

(edit for spelling - d'oh!)

[Neocondriac]

22. Thanks...

to all for your imput!...I like most of you have people who I just have to hear regularly or my head will explode. I feel better.

[AlCzervik]

23. i just checked out "Scott Loughery" Goodmans attacker and

Respondent has also engaged in pattern of such conduct in the past. See Squatting For Dollars (June 12, 2000), available at http://salon.com/politics/feature/2000/06/12/squatter (The website reports that Scott Loughery, a cybersquater of some reknown, has registed numerous domain names of political candidates and has been known to ask for money in exhange for the domain names). Therefore, the Panel finds that Respondent has registered the disputed domain name in bad faith as pursuant to Policy ¶ 4(b)(ii). See America Online, Inc. v. iDomainNames.com, FA 93766 (Nat. Arb. Forum Mar. 24, 2000) (finding a pattern of conduct where Respondent has registered many domain names unrelated to the Respondent’s business which infringe on famous marks and websites); see also Encyclopaedia Britannica Inc. v. Shedon.com, D2000-0753 (Sept. 6, 2000) (finding bad faith where the Respondent engaged in the practice of registering domain names containing the trademarks of others); see also Armstrong Holdings, Inc. v. JAZ Assoc., FA 95234 (Nat. Arb. Forum Aug. 17, 2000) (finding that Respondent has registered numerous domain names that infringe upon the Complainant’s marks and in addition, Respondent has registered domain names that infringe upon other entities’ marks).

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:PP2t3fTKmiwJ:www.arbforum.com/domains/decisions/103968.htm+Scott+Loughrey&hl=en&client=safari

If he wants to slam people for making $$$ her better clean up his own act.

[0rganism]

24. So her crime against progressives is what, exactly?

Because she doesn't go out on a limb with the weird stuff about the 911 attacks, we're supposed to call her an enemy? Good grief.

If her worst offense is not giving equal time to people who say the WTC collapsed because of a planned demolition rather than fire weakening the building's structure caused by terrorists ramming planes into the buildings, then I'll let it slide. Maybe that means I'm an enemy too, oh well.

Frankly, I would rather not have journalists be ranked as "friend or foe" at all. While it greatly disturbs me to see corporate media bending over for the republican party at every opportunity, I wouldn't like to see them getting in bed with the Democrats or Greens either. The media should be as non-partisan and independent as possible. Amy Goodman, while overly sympathetic to the left at times, is also pretty good at keeping her interviews neutral, and she gets time with a lot of primary sources we don't hear much from otherwise.

This article just screams "sour grapes."

[WilliamPitt]

25. Anyone attacked

by the folks who think a missile hit the Pentagon/FEMA detonated the WTC/remote-controlled planes/etc. is fine with me.

I get this crap all the time. The 9/11 Disinfo Brigades look to shred any reporter who won't carry water for their baseless gibberish.

Amy Goodman is a solid citizen.

[Jim Sagle]

27. Scott Loughrey is a lefty-left nutball.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/LOU403A.html

Note how he trashes Richard Clarke as a Bush agent. :puke:

Amy Goodman is far left of me, but she's an honest commentator/reporter. Loughrey is a peddler of paranoia who assumes everyone who doesn't buy MIHOP/LIHOP is an agent of disinfo.

Make no mistake: MIHOP is perfectly obvious to me. But there are reasons besides dishonesty to disagree.

Genuine democrats spend less time attacking one another and more time trying to drive this regime from power.

[Eric J in MN]

28. Friend.

Just because someone is upset that she doesn't think Bush or Cheney caused the 9/11 attacks doesn't make her less of a friend to progressives.

[sidwill]

29. Goodman is a freind ...but...

I think that from a tactical standpoint she wastes time going over issues that have only a very narrow spectrum of the public is interested in. For instance before the last election she had Michael Moore on her show and instead of going over the wide ranging abuses of the Bush administration and Moore's opposition to those policies, she instead badgered him about his stance on Mumia Abdul Jamar (a pet project of hers).

So right before the last election she used her show to push her own opinions about Mumia instead of firing up the base to oppose Bush.

She also did something similar in 2000 when she had WJC on election morning. Clinton came on to get out the vote but Amy chose that moment to:

A. Basically claim the Bush/Gore were two sides of the same coin and that Nader was the only option for progressives.

B. Lambaste Clinton on Rwanda in an effort to illustrate point A.

C. Treat him with little respect, impinging upon his effort to get out the vote.

So Amy is our friend, I just wish she would be a little more help when it comes to supporting Democratic politicians.