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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:04 PM
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Do you remember hearing * in Corp-Media outlets saying "I have not decided
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 02:06 PM by patrice
whether the U.S. is going to War in Iraq." as late as Jan-Feb 2002.

I distinctly remember * saying specifically "I have not yet decided whether we will go to War in Iraq." in Corporate Media Outlets. BushCo LIES - Winter '01-'02. Remember, most popular media is the Voice of Government.

We are NOT War Slaves!
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:07 PM
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1. You're not the only one who remembers that
Of course, we all knew it was bullshit, but he did say it.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:23 PM
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5. I guess I've just never met anyone who would tell such a Lie.
I didn't believe a person could do it on a scale that effected EVERYTHING! It is just shocking. Our Country is Wounded.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:09 PM
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2. I remember it very clearly.
Of course, I knew then he was lying, because of the talk-show buildup they had given the war for the previous six months.

Cue Stephanie Miller's "You're a lying sack of crap . . . ." :)

I smack my head daily that anybody took this guy seriously in 2000 or believed him in that runup to the war.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:20 PM
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3. I was such a baby. I sort of decided to believe that he wouldn't do such
a Horrible thing just because he wanted to.

I was almost hysterical on March 20, 2002. I cried and cried!

The Country I was raised in was Mortally Wounded that night.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:36 PM
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I'm with you
Although I think it was 2003.

I kept telling myself that as long as the inspectors were in Iraq, * wasn't going to invade. I was sure no one was that stoopid, blood-thirsty, and pure evil. When I heard that he was not only going to invade but he was going to do Thunder of God/Shock and Awe, I lost it.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:07 PM
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13. That's right!
2002 Was the Year the DotCom bubble broke and The Market went South to the tune of several thousand of my dollars. The year Bush spent getting ready to INVADE Iraq.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:22 PM
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4. We are NOT war slaves!
Oh yeah??!!

Dat's whachoo tink.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:25 PM
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6. I remember "There are no war plans on my desk," And, "I get to decide,
not you," to some reporter.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:25 PM
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7. Yup, he said it many times
Who believed him? While the inspectors were searching in Iraq for those weapons that cheney & cable insisted they knew where they were, mobile labs, etc., bush never acknowledged this fact. Then he abruptly pulled them out and said Saddam was a bigger threat than ever (and the weather was getting pretty hot) and attacked a spot that bush insisted he had good intel that Saddam was there. Ho humm
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:50 PM
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12. It was such a perfect moment for the RIGHT kind of International
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action; I was reading W. Pitt and was wrapped up in the process and what the International community could extract from this situation for Peace and Justice, hoping Congress was thinking about that too, which they weren't, most of them anyway weren't.

I was also feeling hopeful because the POLLS were STRONG AGAINST WAR at that time.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:36 PM
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8. There were many corpress photo-ops of Smirk saying that
he hadn't decided to blow up that frog or tear the legs off of that bug or invade Iraq. He loved flaunting his power and lying to us at the same time: a twofer.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:38 PM
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9. Not only that
I think recently (after DSM came out) he was livid at the suggestion that he'd decided ahead of time to invade. Now, he's telling us "When I decided to take out Saddam, I had bipartisan support from the Congress."

Seems he's pointing out his own lies.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:15 PM
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14. How many of these backward statements is bush allowed
to get by with, wake up media, it eventually will affect you too. bush has used phrases and sentences since he was elected that would shock a 5th (2nd?) grade teacher. Those were deliberate distortions. Then he makes the statements "... decided to take saddam out.... bipartisan support..." and the statement that war was to be avoided at all cost when there is the DSM, fixing intel situation, which is shown by Fitzgerald's discoveries that Wilson/Plame were to be made an example of - keep your mouth shut CIA cause you work for me - bush speak. These are deliberate lies.

I feel like I'm in a nut house where you shouldn't pay attention to what those around you are saying. They are sooo confused. Yet they get to run a country!
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:39 PM
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10. I remember very well
I also remember how obvious it was at the time he was lying. Or is lying even the right word? A decent lie is something you put effort into in order to be convincing, but he didn't even try.

The openly half-assed attempt to look like he was only being forced reluctantly into war as a last resort, seemed like tongue-in-cheek window dressing. Like he didn't need to be convincing because of 1) his innate belief that he should be able to do whatever he wants like the grubby little dictator he is at heart, and 2) he was still riding that big wave of post-9/11 public hysteria.

I thought it was put out there as a little vaudeville act, like someone who is sarcastically going through the proper motions, in order to underscore, in front of the entire disapproving world, that no one could stop him.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:41 PM
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11. Remember one of his 3 press conferences.
"All I see on TV every day is March to War, March to War, March to War..."

Cue Jon Stewart..."Hmmm. Who would've given them that idea?"

Ari Fleischer: "The President has no plans to invade Iraq on his desk." ... NOOOOOO. They're on a conference table in the next room.
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