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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:46 PM
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"Democrats Also Believed That Saddam Hussein Had WMD"
I guess this is the "offensive" they warned us about :-)


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/11/20051114-1.html

Setting the Record Straight: Senator Levin on Iraq


Sen. Levin (D-MI) Tries To Separate Iraq From The War On Terror. SEN. LEVIN: "But before the war, the President was saying that you cannot distinguish between Saddam Hussein and Iraq. As a matter of fact, he said that so often that he tried to connect Saddam Hussein with the attackers on us, on 9/11, so often, so frequently and so successfully, even though it was wrong, that the American people overwhelmingly thought, because of the President's misstatements that as a matter of fact, Saddam Hussein had participated in the attack on us on 9/11. That was a deception. That was clearly misinformation. It had a huge effect on the American people." (CNN's "American Morning," 11/14/05)

But Sen. Levin And Other Democrats Previously Said That Iraq Was A Part Of The War On Terror.

Sen. Levin: "The War Against Terrorism Will Not Be Finished As Long As Is In Power." (CNN's "Late Edition," 12/16/01)

Sen. Levin: "We Begin With The Common Belief That Saddam Hussein Is A Tyrant And A Threat To The Peace And Stability Of The Region." (Committee On Armed Services, U.S. Senate, Hearing, 9/19/02)

Sen. Clinton (D-NY): " Has Also Given Aid, Comfort, And Sanctuary To Terrorists, Including Al-Qaida Members, Though There Is Apparently No Evidence Of His Involvement In The Terrible Events Of September 11, 2001. ... This Much Is Undisputed." (Sen. Hillary Clinton, Congressional Record, 10/10/02, p. S10288)

Sen. Kerry (D-MA) Says Saddam Hussein Is Part Of The "Global Menace" Of Terrorism. CNN'S LARRY KING: "What about enhancing this war, Senator Kerry. What are your thoughts on going further than Afghanistan, all terrorist places ..." KERRY: "Oh, I think we clearly have to keep the pressure on terrorism globally. This doesn't end with Afghanistan by any imagination. And I think the president has made that clear. I think we have made that clear. Terrorism is a global menace. It's a scourge. And it is absolutely vital that we continue, for instance, Saddam Hussein." (CNN's "Larry King Live," 12/14/01)
Sen. Levin Admits That Democrats Also Believed That Saddam Hussein Had Weapons Of Mass Destruction (WMD). SEN. LEVIN: "You know, the administration continues to talk about everybody believed that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. That is true, but that isn't the issue." (CNN's "American Morning," 11/14/05)

Sen. Clinton: "In The Four Years Since The Inspectors, Intelligence Reports Show That Saddam Hussein Has Worked To Rebuild His Chemical And Biological Weapons Stock, His Missile Delivery Capability, And His Nuclear Program. ... It Is Clear, However, That If Left Unchecked, Saddam Hussein Will Continue To Increase His Capability To Wage Biological And Chemical Warfare And Will Keep Trying To Develop Nuclear Weapons." (Sen. Hillary Clinton, Congressional Record, 10/10/02, p. S10288)

Sen. Rockefeller (D-WV): "There Is Unmistakable Evidence That Saddam Hussein Is Working Aggressively To Develop Nuclear Weapons. And Will Likely Have Nuclear Weapons Within The Next Five Years. And Then Could Have It Earlier If He's Able To Obtain Materials On The Outside Market Which Is Possible. Difficult But Possible." (Sen. John Rockefeller, Congressional Record, 10/10/02, Pg.S10306)

Sen. Kerry: "According To The CIA's Report, All U.S. Intelligence Experts Agree That Iraq Is Seeking Nuclear Weapons. There Is Little Question That Saddam Hussein Wants To Develop Nuclear Weapons." (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/9/02, pp. S10172-10173)

Rep. Pelosi (D-CA): "Saddam Hussein Certainly Has Chemical And Biological Weapons. There's No Question About That." (NBC's "Meet The Press," 11/17/02)




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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:47 PM
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1. Old news....nice try, Neo-cons
Once the inspectors left and Bush attacked, all these points became meaningless.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:48 PM
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2. This only proves they believed the LIES.
Period.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:50 PM
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5. Better than how I said it.
Thanks!
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:49 PM
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3. The part that they ignore is that these Senators DID NOT HAVE access
to all the facts that Bush & Cheney had. Bush and Cheney tricked them, and yes they were perhaps foolish to fall for it, but that in no way justifies tricking them (or us).
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:49 PM
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4. I'm A Democrat. I Never Though He Had So Much As A Capgun
I never thought the asshole had anything at all. So why did I know that and the entire Senate couldn't figure it out?
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:50 PM
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6. "Hah! We lied so much even the OTHER SIDE believed it!" - Bush White House
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vespucci Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:57 PM
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7. bad intel was everywhere and
I do not believe that John Kerry actually meant what he said.....
What he meant was that we need MORE information before we can
make a decision....same with Rep. Pelosi.....
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:08 PM
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10. Welcome to DU!
peace.
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vespucci Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:18 PM
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13. 1000 posts wow...so
answer me this....why do we not gladly let everyone know we are
proud liberals?....this "progressive" stuff is confusing as hell!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:24 PM
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16. Welcome to DU! I like your screenname!
Taken after the "discover" of America, "Americus Vespucci?"

I often wondered why we're called "Americans" (after his first name). Why not "Vespuccians" (after his last name)? Just think of the possibilities:

I'm proud to be a Vespuccian...

Vespuccia, Vespuccia, God shed His grace on thee...

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of Vespuccia...

God bless Vespuccia, land that I love...
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vespucci Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:31 PM
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19. You have
your history right....and I have wondered the same thing.
But, back to the present, that Progressive thing drives me crazy..
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 05:55 PM
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21. Hi vespucci!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 06:45 PM
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22. Claim both titles with pride, we all do here.
Liberal and damn proud of it and welcome to DU. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:57 PM
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8. The evidence that
they received was bogus. Even the inspectors that went into Iraq found nothing. If you are told a lie enough you believe it. There were no WMD no nuclear nothing no ties to 911. We went to war on a lie. Even now Tony Blair is going to be investigated for this lie even more will come out. The truth will be told!!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:05 PM
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9. Why? Because they had their eyes on the polls and the fundraisers.
Politicians in the worst sense of the word.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:12 PM
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11. Shame on the Dems. Believing the President and VP like that. Shame!
Kind of like Judith Miller, "Shame on my readers for believing my lies, and shame on my editors for printing them."

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:13 PM
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12. George Bush once believed in Santa Claus
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 04:13 PM by RobertSeattle
Now he doesn't! (Or at least we hope...)

Flip Flopper Flip Flopper!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:20 PM
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14. So their point is DEMs should NOT have trusted Bush?
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 04:20 PM by Dr Fate
???
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:24 PM
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15. Just keep bringing up the heavily redacted NIE.
Again and Again.

One and a two and a three:

Bush is a LIAR.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:25 PM
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17. And the thing is
a lot of them have come out and told how they were wrong and mislead.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:28 PM
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18. Notice those quotes are all from before the inspectors went back in
after being pulled out in 1998.

And "had" is the operative word here...he HAD them in the 90s but got rid of them.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:34 PM
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20. So what?
It doesn't matter what the dems thought. Bush* was in charge. Bush* ordered the troops to go into Iraq. Bush* KNEW this was the first PRE-EMPTIVE war the United States had engaged in and HE HELD THE POWER. That would be like Clinton saying 'the republicans have oral sex too'. So What?
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