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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:36 PM
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Anti-PNAC group forming
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0310.whoswho.html

Following the first Gulf War, neoconservative policy intellectuals like Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, and William Kristol formed the Project for the New American Century, a think tank which advocates many of the policies—from neo-imperialism to "preemptive" war—that would come to inform the Bush administration's post 9/11 national security policy. Now a group of leading scholars, foreign policy thinkers, and business lobbyists from across the political spectrum have to come together to form an alternative—what one participant describes as "the anti-imperialist coalition." They include Boston University's Andrew Bacevich, Ted Galen Carpenter and Christopher A. Preble of the Cato Institute, the New America Foundation's Steven Clemons, Georgetown University's Charles Kupchan, E. Wayne Merry of the American Foreign Policy Council, and Alan Tonelson of the U.S. Business & Industrial Council Educational Foundation.

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morebunk Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:38 PM
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1. Need to know more about them before I send a contribution
Any other links to who these people are?
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:40 PM
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4. There's this thing called google, use it
hehe
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:48 PM
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9. Bacevich is the only name I recognize,
and from what I know he's a good guy. Author of a recent well-received, anti-imperialist work titled "American Empire: The Realities and Consequences of US Diplomacy."

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:49 PM
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10. See below for their website nt
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:39 PM
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2. woohoo! sign me up for that one...
so happy to hear people banding together to fight imperialism in our republic. :bounce:
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chemenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:40 PM
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3. I'm a little bit confused here.
I thought PNAC was essentially a position paper issued by the conservative think tank known as the American Heritage Institute
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:41 PM
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5. No, it's a group
nt
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:42 PM
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6. pssst, it's the "American Enterprise Institute"
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:54 PM
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11. It's a think tank spun out of the American Enterprise Institute think tank
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:58 PM
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12. Not Exactly,
PNAC is far more than a position paper, although they've issued several papers that detail their imperialistic goals. They are an organized group of hawks and chickenhawks:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:43 PM
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7. I FOUND THEIR WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.realisticforeignpolicy.org/

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Against the backdrop of an ever-bloodier conflict in Iraq, American foreign policy is moving in a dangerous direction toward empire.


Worrisome imperial trends are apparent in the Bush administration's National Security Strategy. That document pledges to maintain America's military dominance in the world, and it does so in a way that encourages other nations to form countervailing coalitions and alliances. We can expect, and are seeing now, multiple balances of power forming against us. People resent and resist domination, no matter how benign.

We are a diverse group of scholars and analysts from across the political spectrum who believe that the move toward empire must be halted immediately. We are united by our desire to turn American national security policy toward realistic and sustainable measures for protecting U.S. vital interests in a manner that is consistent with American values.

The need for a change in direction is particularly urgent because imperial policies can quickly gain momentum, with new interventions begetting new dangers and, thus, the demand for further actions. If current trends are allowed to continue, we may well end up with an empire that most Americans-especially those whose sons and daughters are, or will be, sent into harm's way-don't really favor. The issue must be the subject of a broad public debate. The time for debate is now.

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:45 PM
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8. Also, a spoof site...
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