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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:30 PM
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PNAC 101 - The Rise of the Neocons (the public is DESPERATE for Truth!)
The general public knows that there’s something seriously rotten in the WH but they’ve yet to see the Big Picture….they only need a few more pieces to the puzzle, so do us all a favor and pass this along! In view of recent headlines, it will help clear the fog and answer many questions….


George W. Bush constantly reminds the nation about the threat of terrorism that began with 911 but he leaves out a few important details that you should know.........

June 1997 - The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) was born. Populated by influential Movers of industry and Shakers of public opinion, the PNAC is an organization united in the vision for a global U.S. empire - "Pax Americana" - through coercion and military domination. Their philosophy can be simply summarized:

  • There are countries to plunder and fortunes to be made. You have it, we want it. Do as we say or suffer the consequences.

  • The U.S. already has a powerful military but we plan to nurture and grow it until it's massive and we are indominable. Resistance is futile. We are.......


Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Steve Forbes, William J. Bennett, Frank Gaffney, and I. Lewis ("Scooter") Libby, signator's - among others - of the PNAC's "Statement of Principles".

"We need to...challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values."

"We need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future."

"It is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge."
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm


JANUARY 1998 - The PNAC knew that he who owns the oil also owns the world so they sent a letter to President Clinton urging him to attack Iraq and remove Saddam Hussein from power since he put "a significant portion of the world's supply of oil at hazard". Clinton didn't grant them their wish and the PNAC was disheartened that they couldn't manipulate the military while outside of the White House power structure.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm


MARCH - APRIL 1999 - In an effort to capture and control the castle and all its warriors and weapons, the PNAC offered up members Steve Forbes, Dan Quayle and Gary Bauer to run as Republican candidates in the upcoming Presidential election.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/election/profile.htm


JUNE 1999 - Ever persistent and determined to maximize their potential for success in the Presidential campaign, the PNAC exercised their power of nepotism and member-Jeb Bush's brother George stepped up to the plate to join the race.


SPRING 2000 - The PNAC may have felt confident with their candidate's chances for winning the White House but they were absolutely smug over what they saw as a possible Fallback Plan...electronic voting machines with severe security flaws that included hidden backdoors, erasable audit trails and multiple vote totals with the potential to propel vote tampering to new heights through the magic of remote access.

How To Rig An Election In The United States
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00065.htm

Can the votes be changed?
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/access-diebold.htm

Bettter yet, Chuck Hagel - a fellow Republican loyalist - owned the ES&S voting machine company that counted 60% of all U.S. votes. He had already won one election and was part of the U.S. Senate power team in Washington.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0301/S00166.htm

Assured that the White House would soon be theirs, the PNAC debuted their 76-page blueprint to achieve world domination. "Rebuilding America's Defenses" became the PNAC's manifesto, detailing the ideal level of military power to specifically eliminate the hostile regimes of Iraq, Iran, Syria and North Korea and it endorsed pre-emptive strikes against them, tradition be damned. Iraq was given star billing as Control Central for their Mideast base of operations.

At present the United States faces no global rival. America’s grand strategy should aim to preserve and extend this advantageous position as far into the future as possible."

"American landpower is the essential link in the chain that translates U.S. military supremacy into American geopolitical preeminence.

"We cannot allow North Korea, Iran, Iraq or similar states to undermine American leadership."

"While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

What is particularly foreboding and chilling in view of events to later unfold, is this statement bemoaning the lengthy process of rebuilding the existing U.S. military according to the heightened standards and specifications the PNAC aspired to.

...the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor."
http://cryptome.org/rad.htm


NOVEMBER 2000 - Saddam may have sensed an ill wind in the air when he made the first strike, turned his back on the U.S. Dollar and accepted only Euros as payment for his oil. This had the potential of seriously destabilizing the U.S. economy and the PNAC considered this an hostile act of aggression towards their personal and business interests. The heat was on for them to make their first move.

http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/2000/11/01112000160846.asp


DECEMBER 2000 - In a highly contentious Presidential vote battle on the home turf of PNAC-Jeb Bush, the Supreme Court decided that George Bush was the new President.

Bush now had the green light to seamlessly merge members of the PNAC into his Administration with no one the wiser. PNAC members elevated to the Bush hierarchy include, among others:


  • Donald Rumsfeld - Secretary of Defense

  • Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Secretary of Defense

  • Elliott Abrams - Member of the National Security Council

  • John Bolton - Undersecretary for Arms Control and InternationalSecurity

  • Richard Perle - Chairman of the advisory Defense Policy Board

  • Richard Armitage - Deputy Secretary of State

  • John Bolton - Undersecretary of State for Disarmament

  • Zalmay Khalilzad - White House liaison to the Iraqi opposition


An Honorable Mention was awarded to Condoleezza Rice - National Security Advisor - who is a former oil-company consultant having been on the board of directors of Chevron as its main expert on Kazakhstan.

The PNAC agenda had now passed "Go". The most powerful military machine in the world stood at their ready and Saddam was in the crosshair.

Wasting no time, Cheney secretly assembled an advisory panel of oil and gas executives from Enron, Dynergy, Shell Oil, Chevron/Texaco and British Petroleum under the direction of James Baker (former Secretary of State under George Bush Sr.) to help shape our national energy policy and justify the PNAC's anticipated war with Iraq.

Contributing substantially to the task force discussions and recommendations was a shadowy group of unidentified observers who still remain unknown. Sheikh Saud Al Nasser Al Sabah, the former Kuwaiti oil minister, also made a contribution to the group's final report which was funded through Khalid Al-Turki (a Saudi Arabian oil and gas enterprise) and the Arthur Ross Foundation (a non-profit organization that - on the surface - appears to be a supporter of the Arts.)

http://www.yuricareport.com/PoliticalAnalysis/FraudinWhiteHouse.htm

MARCH 2001 - Cheney closely guarded the details surrounding his energy task force but documents released through the Freedom of Information Act reveal a map of Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, refineries and terminals, as well as 2 charts detailing Iraqi oil and gas projects, and “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/071703.c_.shtml

As one internet poster pointed out:

"The Iraq map is not a map, it's a plan

"There are several areas marked 'earmarked for production sharing' (look at the map
legend), which means privatized oil fields. Iraq did not have privatized oil fields and
production sharing agreements before the US took it over.

"There are also parcels marked on the Iraq oil field and exploration map (numbered
'Block 1' through '9'). Iraq did not have an active, privatized oil exploration program
going on before it was conquered by the US.

"If you read the footnotes and entire contents of the other documents, there is a heavy
emphasis on business concerns, such as contracts and vendors over items one might
think would be more important in a government discussion, such as capacity, long term
reserves, etc...

"One footnote (in UAEOilProj.pdf) even contains investment advice for the participants
at the meeting, suggesting opportunities in downstream projects, such as power
desalination and pipeline projects.


"These are not 'just maps'. Read them."

It can be argued that the spoils of war were being doled out two years before Iraq once again became a household word. Perhaps this explains why Cheney worked so hard and so long to keep this information suppressed until Iraq was under U.S. military control...by then it would be too late for the public to object to the invasion.

Iraq, circa March 2001, painted a completely different picture than the Evil Empire the Bush Administrations tried to portray in their determined rush to war.

"Iraq was one of the more progressive Islamic countries in the region. It provided full
rights for women and public education for its citizens who enjoyed a decent standard
of living."

"Despite the years of bombings and the even greater toll on human life taken by the
sanctions, visitors to Baghdad don't see a city in ruins. Much of the wreckage has
been cleared away, much has been repaired.

"In our hotel, there's running water throughout the day, hot water in the morning.
Various streets in Baghdad are lined with little stores, surprisingly well-stocked with
household appliances, hardware goods, furniture, and clothes (much of which has a
second-hand look).

"We see no derelicts or homeless people on the streets, no prostitutes or ragged
bands of abandoned children, though there are occasional youngsters eager to
shine shoes or solicit spare change. But even they seem to be well-fed and decently
clothed. ......large swaths of the city used to be shrouded in complete darkness;
today, there are lights just about everywhere

"People used to feel hopelessly isolated and now there seems to be more hope and
better morale

Sadly though, "more and more children are turning up with leukemia" (a result of
the tons of depleted uranium the U.S. military used and left behind after Gulf War I.)

"The Iraqi leadership could turn US policy completely around by uttering just two
magic words: "free market." All they have to do is invite the International Monetary
Fund and World Bank into Iraq, eliminate free education and free medical care,
abolish the minimal food ration that goes to every Iraqi, abolish the housing
transportation subsidies, and hand over the country's oil industry to the corporate
cartels. To lift the sanctions, Iraq must surrender to the tender mercies of the
free-market paradise....

"Until then, Iraq will continue to be designated a "rogue nation" by those policy
makers in Washington who themselves are the meanest profit-driven, power-mongering
rogues on earth."
http://www.michaelparenti.org/DefyingSanctions.html

The issue of trade sanctions against Iraq put the Bush Administration in a bind - the sanctions had been designed to punish Saddam for not conceding to U.S. demands but it ended up handicapping U.S. corporations and undermining the PNAC's drive for U.S. economic supremacy. The Bush Administration was on a tight four year schedule to oust Saddam and launch the PNAC's Grand Plan for World Domination but they still didn't have a viable script to sell to the public. Yet.

"It is important to shape circumstances...... ." - PNAC Statement of Principles


May 2001 - The U.S. State Department met with Iran, German and Italian officials to discuss Afghanistan. It was decided that the ruling Taliban would be toppled and a "broad-based government" would control the country so a gas pipeline could be built there.

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/7969.pdf.
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/features/fex20867.htm

Even as plans were being made to remove the Taliban rulers from power, Colin Powell announced a $43 million "gift" to Afghanistan.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-091701scheer.column
http://www.cato.org/dailys/08-02-02.html

Meanwhile, the U.S. Embassy in the UAE received a call that Bin Laden supporters were in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives. It was rumored that Bin Laden was interested in hijacking U.S. aircraft.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf

In June 2001 the decades-old procedure for a quick response by the nation’s air defense was changed. NORAD’s military commanders could no longer issue the command to launch fighter jets because approval had to be sought from the civilian Defense Secretary and PNAC-member, Donald Rumsfeld.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing7/for_the_record_ashley.pdf


In July 2001, the private plot formulated in May for toppling the Taliban was divulged during the G8 summit in Genoa, Italy. Immediately after the conference, American, Russian, German and Pakistani officials secretly met in Berlin to finalize the strategy for military strikes against the Taliban, scheduled to begin before mid-October 2001

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1550366.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,556254,00.html
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/features/fex20867.htm


September 2001 - The "catastrophic and catalyzing" modern-day Pearl Harbor envisioned years earlier by the PNAC came to pass when the WTC and Pentagon were attacked as Rumsfeld sat passive and unresponsive. The finger of blame was pointed at Osama bin Laden, a former CIA operative with ties to Afghanistan. Suddenly, the U.S. "gift" of $43 million to the Taliban in May was cast in a new light. Coincidentally, Pakistan had participated in the plan to attack Afghanistan and the chief of Pakistan's Inter Service Intelligence (ISI) agency was later linked to a 911 hijacker after wiring him $100,00 just days before the WTC fell. Pakistan's ISI also had a long-standing working relationship with the CIA.

http://cryptome.org/rad.htm
http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=8830
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=1454238160
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1266317,00.html

The PNAC had scored a home run with the bases loaded with the 911 event: shock, horror and fear gripped the nation, the war on "terrorism" had been established in no uncertain terms, attacking Afghanistan with public approval was a foregone conclusion and the stage was set for building a public case against Saddam.

Not one to let a good attack go to waste, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld sprung into action.


  • He told his aides to come up with plans for striking Iraq, even though Saddam wasn't linked to the attacks.

  • PNAC-James Woolsey, former CIA director, was dispatched to London to look for and 'firm up' evidence of Iraqi involvement in the 911 attacks.

  • PNAC-member and Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz was authorized to create the Office of Special Plans.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/04/september11/main520830.shtml


"It is important to shape circumstances..........."- PNAC Statement of Principles

The Office of Special Plans (OSP) was a secret group of analysts and policy advisors with no status in the intelligence community. Nevertheless they reported directly to the White House and National Security office with cherry-picked intelligence from questionable sources to support the case for invading Iraq. The OSP circumvented formal, well-established oversight procedures, ignored intelligence that didn't further their agenda, expanded the intelligence on weapons beyond what was justified and over-emphasized the national security risk. They became more influential than the C.I.A. or the Defense Intelligence Agency who didn't even know the ultra-secret OSP existed for at least a year.

Because they were based in the Pentagon, it was assumed that the OSP was an intelligence-gathering agency that was second-guessing the C.I.A. but in actuality it was the White House Military Marketing Machine charged with the task of writing the PNAC's "Get Saddam" sales pitch for the public. Shading and bending reality to suit their own purpose, it wasn't important for the OSP's stories about Saddam to be factual, only that the average American believed them to be - in true Hollywood fashion.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030512fa_fact

While the nation was stripped to the emotional bone and painfully vulnerable, the White House capitalized on the opportunity to reshape public perceptions and responses to conform with the PNAC's new American agenda. Rather than buoy the "can do" American spirit with optimism and hope for the future as Presidents before him had done in times of crisis, Bush spoke with an alarmist and pessimistic tone that served to perpetuate the high anxiety, excitability and fear in the populace.

To hear him speak, the world was a dark, evil and dangerous place....terrorism was here to stay....it would be a long struggle....America was helpless without the military might of the Government to keep the nation safe. The intent was to create a psychologically broken, weary and docile populace that would be easier to lead into war.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/130534_focusecond13.html

Fear became the Administration's strategic tactic for reprogramming the public into accepting the PNAC's militaristic designs. Still shell-shocked and exhausted from the enormity of the WTC and Pentagon tragedies, the public's panic shifted into frenzied over-drive when anthrax-laced envelopes arrived in government and media offices, killing five people. A perpetrator was never identified but the investigation eventually centered around the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, one of the nation's main anthrax research centers.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126244,00.html

Using classic "operant learning" techniques from the realm of consumer psychology, the public was purposely kept on High Alert and continually "shaped" with ominous sound bites on the nightly news and "Level Orange Terror Alerts" at regularly scheduled but discrete intervals.

http://www.consumerpsychologist.com/#Perception

October 2001 - With flags waving, crowds cheering, and anthems playing, the "War On Terror" and the hunt for Osama began when Afghanistan was attacked right on schedule of July's secret meeting

Immediately afterwards the PNAC and White House collaboration of "GET SADDAM" played relentlessly on televisions and in newspapers across the nation and the World as the "War on Terror" waged on and the litany of lies began.


The only terrorists we have to fear are those that occupy the White House.


IMPEACH BUSH NOW!





This has been a presentation of The Whispering Campaign - an opportunity to become ACTIVELY involved in educating the American public without drawing attention to yourself. This is a game of Political "Gossip" where the story of our Government's deception and betrayal gets passed from one person to another.

Anyone can play. The rules are simple: make ten copies of this timeline and leave it in a public place where someone else will find it and read it. Ideal locations for maximum exposure include book stores, copy shops, libraries and train stations. Buses, taxis, laundromats, and check-out lines at the grocery store. Hair salons, rest rooms, gas stations and convenience stores. Anywhere you happen to be will work just fine. The American public deserves to know the TRUTH!

On-line version of this document with clickable links:
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/PNAC_101

Printable version:
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php?title=PNAC_101&printable=yes


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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:46 PM
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1. You are right about this being up to us.
I have a friend who works for a production company that develops programming for the History Channel. He considers himself an Independent, but he leans a little right. Anyhow, I gave him some background on PNAC and told him I thought he should research it and suggested it would make an interesting topic for a documentary. He looked at me like I was from another planet, told me there was no way he could "go there" and wouldn't even let me send a link in an e-mail. Didn't question the truthfulness of what I was saying, but definitely recognized immediately that it was a potentially explosive subject.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:52 PM
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2. Oh, all of these self-serving people looking out for themselves
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 08:53 PM by Carolab
are getting the rest of us killed. Tell them to go stuff themselves if they don't want to hear the truth. THEY NEED TO HEAR THE TRUTH. BECAUSE IT'S THEIR ASS TOO. ONLY THEY DON'T QUITE GET IT, DO THEY?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:17 PM
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7. Find out what corp owns History Channel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arts_and_Entertainment_Network

"The A&E channel is the flagship of the A&E Television Networks group, which also includes The History Channel and The Biography Channel. Unlike most other major American television networks, it has often showed programming from abroad, particularly the United Kingdom, one of the highest-profile outlets British programming has had in the United States.

The service is a result of a merger in 1983 between a service called ARTS, the Alpha Repertory Television Service, owned by Hearst/ABC Video Services which originally served as a companion service to Nickelodeon (which at that time was owned by Warner-Amex Satellite Entertainment, a joint venture between Warner Communications and American Express, before it was owned by Viacom's MTV Networks) and The Entertainment Channel, owned by NBC. It spun from Nickelodeon in 1985, so that Nick launched Nick at Nite."

So, GE/NBC , Viacom, et al are very conservative...wouldn't want to ruffle Bush's FCC feathers while a war is going on you know.

Also see:
Media Propaganda and Spectacle in the War on Iraq: a Critique of U.S. Broadcasting Networks
by Douglas Kellner
http://csc.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/4/3/329

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:14 PM
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3. Intention to defraud is right there,...right there for the world to see.
Why is this evidence of treason persistently ignored? :shrug:

They fucking INTENTIONALLY set out to defraud this country and her people,...and,...their motivations and schemes and plots (as pretty much laid out by this mutual agreement/plan) is still treated as,...some fucking cloud on the planet of Mars.

FUCK!!! I feel like I'm watching some BLANK person struggling with completing a "hang-man" game that has only one fucking letter left to finish the sentence!!!

:banghead: ARE THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP REALLY THIS FUCKING STUPID?!?!?!

Please, please forgive my "liberal" use of the word "fuck" during this period of extreme frustration. I am sorry that "fuck" seems the only word to express all that. :hug:

FUCK!!!!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:40 AM
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13. Apologies not necessary
Fuck is such an apt and versatile word.....you might enjoy this...(but don't play it with kids around.)

http://www.ilovewavs.com/comedy/Misc/fuck.wav

As for "ARE THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP REALLY THIS FUCKING STUPID?!?!?!", the answer is no...they're that FUCKING EVIL

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:17 AM
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24. *LOL* That's hilarious!!! Thanks!!!
When I referred to "people at the top" I was referring to those other than the EVIL BushCO/neoconster regime who seem incapable of putting two and two together. Hell, even our heroic liberally-slanted representatives didn't know about PNAC before or immediately after the war. I don't fault them for that but they certainly were notified and familiarized with this imperialistic aggressive national policy paper before the last election.

I'm just frustrated. I wish our Democrats would have taken greater risks and would have aggressively gone after these lyin' sons-a-bitches early in 2004 rather than waiting a year after the election. But, like I said,...I'm just frustrated,...and I'm sure that, in their minds, an earlier confrontation was not wise.

*sigh*

I'm glad we're on the move, NOW!!!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:00 AM
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26. "an earlier confrontation was not wise"
Who would have believed them a year ago? Having it revealed slowly gives the public an opportunity to assimilate it so the reptilian brains among them don't explode. As someone who's been jumping up and down and shouting from the rooftops for more than two years about PNAC, I wholeheartedly empathize with your frustration but momentum is building toward a crescendo of explosive proportions. Considering the nefarious nature of our opponents, I'm grateful that we've gotten as far as we have and now that the floodgates have been opened, there's no stopping it. All in good time....

Here's another chuckle for you: What word starts with "F" and ends in "UCK"? ----------------------------> Firetruck!

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:30 AM
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29. I know. It's true. I forget my own personal reaction when I,...
,...discovered what was happening: shock, sadness, anger, disgust,...your basic cathartic explosion. The people did need the time to, as you say, assimilate the shocking truth.

I believe my frustration lies in the incalculable losses: loss of lives, loss of moral authority, loss of integrity, loss of economic stability and national security, loss of control over those who engaged in such egregious abuse and exploitation of our people. I also have a brother I just saw off to Iraq this past Sunday. To say the least, I've been pretty damned moody this week.

I'll have to tell my teenage son that firetruck chuckle! :hug: Thanks for lightening the load with some spot-on humor.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:03 AM
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32. It's a heavy burden when the lightbulb switches on
but nothing compared to what you're going through having to say goodbye to a brother with the uncertainy of his safety and welfare hanging over you. Candles will be lit for his safe passage and return...candles will be lit for your peace of mind.

The loss...yes, the sense of loss on so many different levels - the betrayal! - sometimes brings me to unexpected tears at inopportune times but it ultimately cements my resolve to do whatever it takes to expose the evil for what it is and somehow counteract it. I have no other way of dealing with it...

I'm glad I made you laugh, if only for a moment...it makes me feel useful in a world gone mad.

Be well, my friend. And know in your heart that goodness will prevail for Balance is the nature of the universe and the world's been dark for far too long.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:17 PM
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4. They obviously had plans for their likenesses to be carved in stone.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 09:18 PM by applegrove
On some mountain. They very much like the idea of "creation myths". I think Toba is free. We could carve their likeness there!
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:22 PM
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5. Luna - I tried to print this from demopedia several days ago..
prints page 1. All other pages come out blank. Someone posted a bug report months ago about this, I see. Still doesn't work.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:45 AM
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14. Try this link
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:05 PM
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6. More accurately the Rise of the Vulcans, what they call themselves
"The group calls itself "The Vulcans." Some of its members have known each other 30 years" from the book by James Mann

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1753474

War is such fun for this group of slime.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:47 PM
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8. RECOMMENDED without qualification. My god! The whole sorry tale.
I can't say enough good things about this post. It's bookmarked...totally.

Just amazing. Thank you!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:57 AM
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16. FWIW
Phase Two of the Senate Intelligence Committee Report is very important because Jay Rockefeller is “in the know” regarding PNAC.

After the initial Senate Intelligence Committee Report he said “It was clear to all of us in this room who were watching that, and to many others, that they had made up their mind that they were going to go to war. And I believe to this day, and I always have and I’ve said so publicly many times in regretting my vote, that there was a predetermination, even going back to 1998 in a letter to Bill Clinton, saying, "The time for diplomacy has ended and now is the time for the use of military force."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38650-2004Jul9_3.html

Just for good measure, I recently reminded him of his previous comments and sent emails to Levin and Feinstein (the other Dems on the Intelligence committee) as well as Reid and Kerry, asking them to PLEASE expose these evil monsters!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:43 AM
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34. Rockefeller can spill the beans. He's got "protection";) n/t/
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:49 PM
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9. Here ya go LunaC:
I know it's missing a few lizards, but I have no more room. :)

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:56 PM
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38. Kick!
:kick:
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:51 PM
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10. IMPORTANT! Did you include
a link to the GAO report about the election fallicies? That would be of more impact value than the others listed.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:07 AM
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17. Excellent suggestion!
I'll include a link to the Truthout article that summarizes the findings and includes a link to the actual GAO report.

GAO Report Finds Flaws in Electronic Voting
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/102105Q.shtml

Thanks!
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:04 AM
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11. Wow. Just wow. Thank you so much for putting this all 2gether.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 12:04 AM by ourbluenation
K and R and bookmarked...
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ancient_nomad Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:33 AM
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12. Wow! Thank You So Much for This!
It is perfect. I am going to send this to a very close
friend who just doesn't get it. Also will print up some
copies and leave them in the office of the apartment
complex, plus the grocery store.

Thanks again!

:toast: :bounce: :thumbsup: :yourock: :applause: :patriot:
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:10 AM
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18. Your efforts and enthusiasm are MUCH appreciated!
Welcome to DU (just in case it hasn't already been said.)
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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:49 AM
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15. It goes back WAY further than 1997. Goes back to the Nixon days!!!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:42 AM
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19. Kick for the night owls (or early risers)
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:04 AM
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20. Great job. My only
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 05:06 AM by DemBones DemBones


reservation about it is that it's so long. I think a lot of people would be intimidated by the length of it. Most Americans are very busy, are also suffering (mis- or dis-)information overload from cable news, and many don't read as well as members of PI. Many years ago, studies showed that the average adult American reads on an 8th grade level. Add to that the ever-increasing number of high school grads who are functionally illiterate.

A sort of "Cliff's Notes" version would be helpful, and we could leave copies of each document wherever we placed this literature. I'm thinking that a one page quick overview would grab a person's interest so that they might read it on the spot and decide to take a copy of the detailed version to read when they have more time. The one page overview could also be used as the title page to the detailed one.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:04 AM
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27. This IS the condensed version!
The original was twenty pages long! I don't know what more could be cut and still pack the wallop that it does.
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:15 AM
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21. Bravo, well done!! This is easy to follow,has credible links to support
your statements and links all these events into a tight,little,cohesive package.

This was a lot of work on your part. I am going to send this to a select group of people who just don't seem to get it,even now.

Kudos to you!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:27 AM
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22. Great job!
Very impressive. This is a valuable resource -- one of the very best things I've seen on DU, or anywhere else, on this topic. Thank you for this!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:04 AM
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23. We're not going to win the information war
until the people are at least made familiar with the OSP. Until that point, the administration and those that support them will be able to confuse the public by saying the bad intel came from "the intelligence community". Once the public really becomes aware of the OSP, taking them the rest of the way concerning the PNAC will be easier.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:19 AM
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28. Believe it or not
CNN did a piece yesterday debunking the "EVERYBODY in the international community KNEW Saddam was a threat..." propaganda. They showed clips of various world leaders from Russia, France and Germany publicly stating that Saddam was NOT a threat. It was an amazing series of clips, especially when you consider the source. Slowly but surely people are coming to understand that the intel was just fine if only the Bush cabal didn't twist and distort it as they did.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:58 AM
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25. kick
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:38 AM
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30. pnac=mafia
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:48 AM
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31. Check this out...
The Wallace v. Bush Lawsuit

www.wallacevbushlawsuit.com
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:27 AM
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33. Thanks, LunaC! Nothing hurts Traitors like the Truth!
People new to the subject need remember this isn't history -- PNAC's happening now. For instance, think Syria:



Mehlis's Murky Past; US and Isreali Proxies Pushing the Next Neo-Con War

Faking the Case Against Syria


By TRISH SCHUH
Counterpunch
November 18, 2005

Another slam dunk forgery is being used to convict Syria. The United Nations' Detlev Mehlis inquiry into the murder of Lebanon's former Prime Minister Rafiq Hairri depends on a central witness, Zuhir Ibn Mohamed Said Saddik, who has faced accusations of being a swindler and embezzler. Der Spiegel exposed Saddik's brags of "becoming a millionaire" from his testimony to the Mehlis Commission. Saddik was referred to the Mehlis Commission by Syrian regime critic Rifaat Assad, the uncle of current Syrian President Bashar Assad. Rifaat has been lobbying the Bush administration to become the president of Syria in the event his nephew Bashar is ousted.

The record of the UN's investigator Mehlis does not inspire faith in his credibility. As Senior Public Prosecutor in the German Attorney General's office, Mehlis investigated the 1986 LaBelle Discotheque bombing in Berlin. Relying on alleged National Security Agency intercepts of coded messages between Tripoli and Libyan suspects in Germany (later revealed by former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky as false telex signals generated by Mossad itself), Mehlis provided the 'irrefutable proof' of Libya's guilt that then justified Ronald Reagan's bombing of Libya.

In the case of the accusations against Syria, Mehlis's case revolves around a series of questionable phone conversations and intersecting calling card numbers allegedly dialled by the perpetrators. It contains no definitive forensics on the car bomb explosives used. Outside investigators have said it could have been RDX plastique, not TNT as Mehlis suggested in his report. The German Mercedes manufacturers were also perplexed at how Hariri's vehicle, reinforced by the heaviest steel-titanium alloy, was "melted by the force of the explosion," after-effects usually associated with high density DU munitions. The car bomb vehicle (stolen in Japan and never fully traced) was possibly driven by a suicide bomber, whose identity is still unknown. Mehlis's report then states: "Another only slightly less likely possibility is that of a remotely controlled device."

Mehlis conclusions on the case , due on December 15 could justify an attack on Syria, using the Hariri assassination as justification. But from Beirut to Damascus, the "Arab Spring" was a neocon forgery designed to destabilize the Levant and redraw the map of the middle east.

SNIP...

Years before its role in the so-called "Cedar Revolution" (a moniker coined by US Undersecretary of State Paula Dobriansky, a signatory to the Project for a New American Century), Israel awarded citizenship and grants of up to $10,000 to South Lebanon Army soldiers who collaborated with the Israeli Defense Forces during Lebanon's civil war. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz revealed, "Senior officials at Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office were in touch with Lebanese leaders even before the current crisis." Backed by American and Israeli neocons, a Christian Lebanese Likud is proxying Israel's second invasion.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org



Gee. I never thought I'd feel sorry for the government of Syria -- or Iran.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:11 PM
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35. Many thanks for putting this together! There are a few pages
on this site that make it easier to keep track of some of the players.

Be sure to check the color coding under a person's name.
Bush Foreign Policy Team

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/charts/fpteam.php

Project for a New American Century (PNAC)
A Complete List of PNAC Signatories and Contributing Writers
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/charts/pnac-chart.htm

I've only glanced at this link, but looks interesting. It has a pop up for email updates and takes a minute to load on my PC. This from the bottom of the page.

"Also watch the 11/26/2003 IRmep Capitol Hill Forum:
"The 'Clean Break Plan': Implications for US Middle East Policy"
Real Video (90 Minutes)

This video had an audience reach of 28.5 million viewers and was rebroadcast 6 times. It remained among the top five most watched Internet videos on C-SPAN for 60 days."

http://www.irmep.org/Policy_Briefs/3_27_2003_Clean_Break_or_Dirty_War.html
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:43 PM
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36. LOVE the links!
Really well done! A complete roster of criminals to round up when TSHTF....I can dream....
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:08 PM
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39. Thanks, I needed some sort of a cheat sheet. Still looking through
all the info you have provided.

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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:56 PM
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37. For those who like to delve even deeper, here is a link
The quotes below are from a book review by Jim Lobe, entitled Neo-con ideology, not Big Oil, pushed for war

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FH18Ak01.html

The book, America Alone: The Neo-Conservatives and the Global Order (and PNAC is, of course, the penultimate neocon organization), describes the rise of <snip>...the neo-conservative world view - dedicated to the security of Israel and the primacy of military power in a world of good and evil...<snip>


To Halper and Clarke, the neo-conservative world view revolves around three basic themes: that "the human condition is defined as a choice between good and evil"; that military power and the willingness to use it are the fundamental determinants in relations between states; and that the Middle East and "global Islam" should be the primary focus in US foreign policy.

These core beliefs create certain predispositions: analyzing foreign policy in terms of "black-and-white, absolute moral categories"; espousing the "unipolar" power of the United States and disdaining conventional diplomacy, multilateral institutions or international law; seeing international criticism as evidence of "American virtue"; regarding the use of military power as the first, rather than last, resort in dealing with the enemy, particularly when anything less might be considered "appeasement"; and harking back to the Ronald Reagan administration (1981-89) as the exemplar of "moral clarity" in foreign policy. <unsnip>

...While predominantly Jewish, the neo-conservative movement is by no means exclusively so, and most American Jews, it is important to point out, are not neo-conservatives. As the authors themselves write, "Today, it should not be considered legitimate to imply that any criticism of neo-conservatism is necessarily tainted by anti-Semitism."

That said, the horrific experience of European Jewry in the 20th century, culminating as it did with the Nazi Holocaust, is critical to understanding the neo-conservative mind set. It is that experience - and the failure of the "international community" to do anything about it - that helps explain the good-and-evil moral categories, the obsession with military force, the disdain for multilateral institutions and international law and, ultimately, the necessity for the United States to be permanently engaged against foreign enemies lest it withdraw into isolationism that, like appeasement, helped pave the way for Hitler and the Holocaust that make up the neo-conservative world view.


The book's authors: Stefan Halper, Cambridge University teacher; policymaker in previous Republican administrations; and Clarke, currently of the Cato Institute (a Washington, D.C. thinktank), after a diplomatic career in Britain. The book was published by Cambridge University Press, apparently in 2004.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:19 PM
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40. ...And, my thanks to LunaC for posting the OP...and great links!
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 08:27 PM by Wordie
My apologies for having neglected to thank you before for posting such great references. I've added this thread to my bookmarks.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 12:59 AM
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41. I was too absorbed by your excerpt to notice
Wow! That explains a lot! Adds another whole dimension to the drama. Thank YOU for that contribution!
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 06:23 PM
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42. .
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:55 AM
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43. .
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 10:06 AM
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44. Link to Rebuilding America's Defenses, The Neocon's Blue Print
for World Domination

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Thank you Luna for your great post! This cannot be mentioned often enough, and unfortunately, although some lawmakers have touched upon it, they have never really stressed how important it is.

I think by publicizing PNAC and the Downing Street Memos (Minutes) would bring this adminstration down to it's psychopathic knees.
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