OFFICIAL HOUSE THREAD #9

[LSK]

Thread 8 here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5401191&mesg_id=5401191

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. thanks kudos to you

[rodeodance]

3. sam johnson repug TX is still ranting on and on (mantra to the WH).

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. yes he confuses suport teh troops

with doing his consititutional job... by the way, bringing Nam up, morale was down by 68 because of... Tet, this man is an idiot

[nadinbrzezinski]

Embolden the enemy, damn BS propaganda

hold it, OBL was not there befoer we invaded you asshole!

[skooooo]

2. Sam Johnson still sounding really stupid....

[Bill McBlueState]

7. and they just gave the assclown three more minutes

What an idiot.

[rodeodance]

8. 'we must fight the bad guys overthere, not here' say death worn over

sammy.

[KerryOn]

28. Fight Bush Over Here...

So our sons and daughters don't die for HIM over there.

[HeeBGBz]

10. He's a clone

Spout the party lie.

[RepublicanElephant]

4. did johnson just get 3 more FREE minutes? will murtha get 3 FREE minutes?

???????????

[mb7588a]

31. there was an objection, and murtha didn't want the three minutes.

so the unanimous consent to get him and johnson 3 more was not even said.

[cynatnite]

5. All the same tired old rw talking points

geez :eyes:

:puke:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

6. DU JUST MADE 1000 DONATIONS!!

[rodeodance]

time or the Dems to walkout. but no one walking that I can see.

[kath]

101. Nope, to walk out en masse would have taken a lot of guts, and...

(well, you know... :-( :-( )

[The Jacobin]

9. God, Sam must think soldiers are weenies.

"What do people at home think of me?"


:puke:

[erinlough]

11. Peaceniks haven't heard that in a while HA!

[Stand and Fight]

20. Yeah.... Where'd they dig him up? n/t

[Stand and Fight]

12. Oh, you bat-shit crazy fucker, Sam Johnson, shut the fuck up!

Peaceniks... Where'd they dig this mother-fucker up?

Sam Johnson ought to go to hell. What an old fool. His years of service apparently taught him nothing.

[buddysmellgood]

14. We can't leave until we find those who attacked the twin towers.

[jane_pippin]

15. Peaceniks?! Oh my god. Get out, square!

:rofl:

This is insane.

[Sydnie]

He just showed how out of touch he is .... PEACENIKS?

Give me strength ...........

[stepnw1f]

16. Asshole GOP Talk...Yawn

[tallahasseedem]

17. Johnson lied about 200,000 Iraqi troops.

First 100,000 now 200,000. Will it be 300,000 tomorrow?

[Warren Stupidity]

18. Johnson is hitting all the moron points.

Cutonion. Peaceniksinam. Troopmorale. Waggy blue fingers. Iraq is great. Global terra. Fight em there so we don't have to fight em here.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. my lord this is bout to end...

[Warren Stupidity]

25. Here we go.

Recorded vote demanded. Done deal. Farce complete.

[Patsy Stone]

19. So, to recap.

The Republican House members are debating the merits of a non-binding resolution, introduced by a Republican, to withdraw the troops immediately. By voting against this, they are, ostensibly, supporting the troops. :crazy:

This is to make the Dems and Murtha, who has not said immediate withdrawl, ever, look bad by, again, offering a fallacious argument that the Dems want to cut and run, and that they intend to vote no, to keep the troops there, just because the Dems want withdrawl so bad, and they are gonna wave the "No" in our faces because we're cowards and they want perpetual war to support freedom. :crazy:

The Dems are for the withdrawl of troops, have nothing to lose by voting for this because it's non-binding. So, if they vote in favor of the resolution, and all the Repubs vote against it (which they won't) and it passes, the House will have sent a message to the WH that they want the troops home.

And what's wrong with that? And what the hell kinda strategery is it that allows your opponent to stand on the floor and expose the sham argument that it is. Wow. Did the RNC hire Bob Shrum?

[Gold Metal Flake]

Anobod notice if my local wingnut Buck McKeon has spoken yet? n/m

[tsuki]

22. This is the same thing that happened during VietNam. Congress

and the people started talking against it.

Yea, you idiot. After Fifteen Fucking Years, it was time to pull out.

[Fla Dem]

23. Al Quieda, Al Quida, Al Quida, !!!!!! There was NO Al Quida in

IRAQ before the BUSH WAR !!!! There was NO TERRORIST in IRAQ before the BUSH WAR !!!! Why do they keep repeating those lies ????

[gristy]

24. So, is repuke Hunter going to vote for his own bill?

This is so odd...

[gristy]

1 R has voted for it

Guess he has.

[robbedvoter]

51. Should one be allowed to introduce resolutions one is against?

[uppityperson]

26. 15 minute vote

to record the votes. Who will not vote? Who will "walk" on this one?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

30. 1 democrat voting Present-Not-Voting.

Interesting,

[buddysmellgood]

Do the pukes really think they can change opinion with "stay the course?"

[Warren Stupidity]

33. Stayrecourse Cutonion! Terra terra!

[buddysmellgood]

104. Nice. I wondered how that was spelled :)

[rodeodance]

36. Nay for 144 pugs and Nay for 149 Dems. Dems are voting with the pugs.

[Warren Stupidity]

40. The resolution is poison and stupid.

It is not Murtha's resolution. It is a republican resolution. They made the resolution, they should vote for it.

[LSK]

27. vote time

Everyone voting no.

[stop the bleeding]

38. that is good or bad?

I mean the Dems are not calling for an imediate withdrawl, right?

[HeeBGBz]

29. I'm still unclear on what they are voting on

Trying to get caught up.

[The Jacobin]

35. The repug replacement to Murtha's resolution

that says withdraw immediately.

[buddysmellgood]

41. It's a resolution that announces the sense of the house. It has not legal

bearing that I know of. Murtha wanted to force debate on having an exit strategy. The pukes didn't want that debated over the turkey day break and so they bastardized the resolution to make it a vote on bringing troups home immediately.

[RepublicanElephant]

32. what's so stupid is that this resolution still doesn't officially address

the INVESTIGATION or OVERSIGHT issues that americans are starting to demand. so what have repubs won tonite?

[erinlough]

39. They won the Democrats a platform to get their message heard

Thank you Republicans!!!!!

[raysr]

50. I hope you're right.

I don't see anything good coming from this.

[raysr]

43. Jesus Christ they're

voting. Damn, I thought they would walk out. You know what the pukes will say now. They let Murtha stand alone. We have no representation. The party is dead.

[rodeodance]

56. Mutha did not call for and 'immediate' withdrawal. the laugh is on the pug

[KerryOn]

34. The Vote Started! n/t

[meganmonkey]

37. Yea = 3 / Nay = 296

2 dems, 1 rep are the yeas

[rodeodance]

44. well, seems Pelosi's directive is being listened to.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

45. Yea-3/Nay-304/Present-2

[gristy]

42. Great dem caller on c-span while the vote is going on

Lots of good points. Great points. From Arizona.

[rodeodance]

48. Palosi told the Dems to vote with the pugs on this one.

[gristy]

61. Good!

[rodeodance]

64. see this.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/24hour/front/story/2915302p-11577199c.html
House GOP seeks quick veto of Iraq pullout

By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
Friday, November 18th, 2005 03:13 PM (PST)


WASHINGTON (AP) - House Republicans maneuvered for swift rejection Friday of any notion of immediately pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq, sparking a nasty, sometimes personal debate over the war and a Democratic lawmaker's own call for withdrawal.
Furious Democrats accused the GOP of orchestrating a political stunt, leaving little time for debate and changing the meaning of a withdrawal resolution offered by Democratic Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania.

For those reasons, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi sent word to rank-and-file Democrats to vote - with the Republicans - against immediate withdrawal of American troops.

Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., said of the nonbinding resolution, "We want to make sure that we support our troops that are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. We will not retreat."......

[earthside]

46. This vote doesn't matter ...

... the story tomorrow will be the crass, cynical politics of the radical Republicans.

I think this really shows how desperate the Bushites are ... they wouldn't have done this if they didn't know how deep in trouble they are.

Besides, the majority of Americans diapprove of this war and most want them home -- now.

[gristy]

the story tomorrow will be the crass, cynical politics of the radical

Republicans...

I hope you are right. I think there is a pretty good chance.

[raysr]

60. I see it as the dems

left Murtha hang alone.

[uppityperson]

68. This is NOT Murtha's stand, immediate withdrawal.

He has not called for this. He is not standing for this. He wants a debate, and get out as soon as possible. This is not him hanging, but the repubs trying to pull a number and looking stupid.

[gristy]

87. Nope. I don't see it that way at all

Murtha knows it isn't his resolution. If indeed he did vote for it, I imagine it was done after careful political consideration. He knows he's not alone. Not by a long shot!!

[brettdale]

63. can you imagine

How Faux news and all the MSM is going to report this one!

[Crazy Guggenheim]

47. Freeper is calling in.

[gristy]

52. she was horrid

"...saying bad things about our country. Saying bad things about our president..."

[Bill McBlueState]

53. yeah, are her dimwitted sons signing up?

I doubt it.

[MuseRider]

54. WaaaaaWaaaaa

that is all they ever say.

[raysr]

79. I've been watching this all day

I feel like I got kicked in the stomach when I saw the dems voting. WTF? WTF?

[gristy]

96. Not Murtha's resolution

I think this is the right thing to do.

[mtowngman]

49. Is this Brittny Spears

[ncrainbowgrrl]

55. Three cheers for the Raleigh, NC- C-SPAN Caller!!

[uppityperson]

57. Caller "Pres doesn't have intellegence to lie"

not debate if he lied or not since he couldn't lie because he doesn't have the intellegence to do so. :rofl:

[Warren Stupidity]

58. Keep in mind that this has changed the whole debate.

Last week we weren't even discussing withdrawal now we are voting on it, even if the current resolution is a farce.

[Bill McBlueState]

62. good call, good call

Murtha's remarks have turned from a minor press conference into a major debate before the House. People will remember the debate more than the vote.

[stop the bleeding]

67. yes I have been saying this all along - no matter what happens

it will make everyday Joblow american take notice of what is going on.

It is in the spotlight.

[stop the bleeding]

80. Who is this beeaaawwwwtttttccchhh

caller from Sarasota.

And I am from Tampa :puke:

[soup]

59. Want to take a quick moment to say thank you LSK,

for keeping these threads rolling. You've done a great job.
:toast:

and to everyone for contributing - Glad you were here to share it with. :toast:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

65. Here here! Thanks LSK!

:patriot:

[astonamous]

66. Here, here. I second that n/t

[LSK]

83. thanks for being part of the process

:toast:

[Wheezy]

105. Best Friday night date I've had in a while.

Thanks all!

:hi:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

69. "Act like French people" LOL.

:rofl:

[erinlough]

81. Funniest call ever

I think she has been drinking. Probably some French Wine.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

95. I'm taking that quote to the Lounge.

[RepublicanElephant]

70. do your calls go thru faster to c-span when you're stupid?

sure seems like it.

[LSK]

88. LOL - good one n/t

[soup]

91. Glad I'm only drinking water.

What a great line, DW! :rofl:

[AntiFascist]

71. Lets' all start posting in French!!! nt

[Crazy Guggenheim]

78. HAHAHAHA! I love it!!

[soup]

72. "This war was started to bring democracy to the middle east.

all you naysayers Go to France."

WHAT A DOLT.

[mb7588a]

73. who are the three?

linder wexler and who?

[wovenpaint]

74. ya know what?

This woman is a waste of airtime

[Warren Stupidity]

75. We are wimps we are french people!

We cutonion! Freemon'n'moxy for all!

[LSK]

76. caller attacking the french LOL

How stupid can you get. She goes right from the French to how this country was founded, but completely misses the extreme hypocrisy!

[Stand and Fight]

77. Someone shut this woman the hell up...

What an absolute FReeper idiot -- Democrats should just move to France. Idiot person. Disgusting.

[Pryderi]

82. Stop stupid people from voting.

[Acryliccalico]

84. Had to laugh at that French thing too, lol

[nadinbrzezinski]

85. from a troop

saying it like it is

Bring the troops home

[Crazy Guggenheim]

86. OMG!! "Acting like French people"!!

[ceile]

89. I like this lady on now

"Murtha has the ear of the Pentagon" interesting

[stop the bleeding]

93. yes very interesting n/t

[stop the bleeding]

90. another good caller from Winterhaven FL n/t

[Pryderi]

92. The Republicans are arguing against their own resolution?

[stop the bleeding]

99. that is what I see n/t

[DanCa]

94. I take it the votes near I can't watch it now too intense.

[RepublicanElephant]

97. ha-ha! thanksgiving break! repubs will have to go home and explain...

...this mess to their constituents.
:rofl:

[buddysmellgood]

103. No doubt. They've fucked themselves big time. It's only going to get

worse in Iraq. This will haunt them. I only wish the Democrats had unified in a present vote or a yes vote.

[AntiFascist]

98. Um, you know that thing about spineless D....

oh, never mind.

[New Earth]

100. i'm still not getting this resolution

honestly. the Republicans proposed a resolution to bring the troops home, but are all voting no? :wtf:

am i missing something here? i'm really trying to understand.

[LSK]

102. started the last thread i hope

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5401951&mesg_id=5401951

[Gold Metal Flake]

106. Locking

New thread here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5401951&mesg_id=5401951