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Thank you Congressman Murtha, for your brave honesty. If the democratic party would follow your lead we could win elections across the country! Finally a clear cut strong voice of truth! We haven't had this for so long. Keep it up we need you.
Posted by miniliz on November 18, 2005 at 08:55 PM
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I just read my email from Governor Dean, and the first question that popped into my mind was why didn't Murtha's statement originate from the DNC??? Is anyone minding the business of the party there? Don't they realize that at least 80% of Democrats agree with Congressman Murtha's statement and could have made argument a year ago??? Come on Governor Dean - wake up!!! Get some backbone and let's sweep next yers elections!!!
Posted by jimmyjames on November 18, 2005 at 09:23 PM
-------------------------------------------------------------------Saw this on MSNBC,
Democrats gave Murtha a standing ovation behind closed doors, but most kept their distance in public. “It’s a trap,” explained a Democratic strategist. “If the party comes out for a unilateral six-month withdrawal, that would become the issue for ’06, and they would kill us again.
Whoever this Democratic "strategist" is, he should be let go. The republicans will kill us if we have no spine and are afraid to speak what we believe because we might then lose an election. Political courage. Murtha is leading the charge.
Posted by Chicago on November 18, 2005 at 09:49 PM
People do not like to be ripped off. This is the approach Democrats must use to their advantage for '06 and '08. We need to send the message to swing voters that "Your government is devaluing and taking away your money, your voice, and the lives of your country's defenders. Where is your outrage?"
I consider myself a centrist Democrat, and I am revolted by the complacency with which people are treating this administration's failures.
Remember when the country's greatest concern was whether or not oral sex constitutes sex? Where are the motions to have this president impeached?!
Posted by andromeda on November 19, 2005 at 03:50 AM
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Thank you democrats for showing you true self. You have sold out the solders in Iraq and now a retired U.S. Marine in Murtha. At least you are consistant. He was pushed to speak up as one with military credability and given a no confdence vote of 403 to 3. You sent him out and sold him out...sound familiar. I guess the elected officials were thinking about votes instead of guts.
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Excuse me but that was a vote on Duncan Hunter's warped amendment. It most certainly was not a vote on Murtha's resolution. Duncan Hunter cycnically changed what Murtha proposed to make it sound like a disorderly withdrawal.
I am sure this was all a plan by the Republicans to try to make the Democrats look irresponsible.
It didn't work. Murtha was well supported last night and in fact HE URGED the defeat of the Duncan Hunter amendment.
What Murtha proposed is a re-deployment over the course of the next 6 months while control is passed to Iraqi forces. American forces would be slimmed down. A quick strike force, probably Marines, would stay in or around Iraq in case of a major problem. It's an idea worthy of honest debate. That is exactly what the Republicans refused to do last night. That is why Duncan Hunter's rubbish deserved to be defeated - in fact, Hunter voted against his own amendment! You tell me that isn't cynical blatant politics.
This is a new low for the Republican party. Americans have lost all faith in them and Bush to solve our probles. There is only one choice kick you Republicans out in 2006!
Posted by rjsnj on November 19, 2005 at 09:10 AM
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My message to Murtha? Thank you, and good job Marine!
My message to the democrats who turned thier back on him because they are afraid of the political fallout...
Get out. Get out, step down, walk away if you cannot represent the American people, the majority of whom want us out of Iraq. How could you? How could you give this man a standing ovation when it was just Democrats in the room, then vote no on his resolution? How could you, Nancy Pelosi, say ""Mr. Murtha speaks for himself."
Of course, shame on Ms. Schmidt for calling this highly decorated veteran a coward. But after all I have come to expect that from Republican chickenhawks.
The greater shame lies on the shoulders of all the Democrats who voted "no".
We will leave Iraq eventually, we truly have done all we can. It could be orderly as Mr. Murtha envisioned, or it could be chaotic and disordely, like our withdrawal from Vietnam. We had a choice yesterday, and history will judge the 403 who voted no very harshly.
The blood of all those who will die from this point forward is on your hands, despicable and cowardly 403.
Posted by marsh on November 19, 2005 at 09:12 AM
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Democratic Party Infested by DLC Republicans
If DLC Leadership did not want to support the Republican Re-WRITE of Congressman John Murtha's plan to "Bring Our Troops Home", DLC Leadership should have submitted their own proposal for the Democratic Party. To their lasting shame, the DLC Leadership of the Democratic Party did not do so and once more chose to cooperate with and support the agenda of the Conservative Right-Wing Republican EXTREMISTS.
A few brave Democrats that represent the people stood up with Congressman John Murtha of Pennsylvania last night and represented the Will of the People and the Will of U.S. Military Forces in Iraq, who are fighting an illegitimate and unnecessary War of Imperial Aggression for the economic benefit and interests of Conservative Right Wing Republican Extremists.
On November 18, 2005, the Majority Will of the People of the United States was voiced by Congressman Murtha that the United States change its course and withdraw from Iraq. The Republican Wing of the Democratic Party, DLC Democrats, as always, supported the Republican Party in a shameful betrayal of the American people, and refused to represent the interests and Will of the Majority Population, contrary to the Will of the Conservative Right Wing Republican Party EXTREMISTS that have lied and deceived their way into infestation of the Government of the United States.
The vote not to support changing the course of the Conservative Right Wing Republican EXTREMISTS, and sensibly withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq, was one more cowardly betrayal of the American people in a long list of "Borrow and Spend" "transfer of wealth betrayals" of the American people by DLC Representation and Leadership of the Democratic Party that is representative of Conservative Right Wing Republican Party interests, rather than the grassroots majority population of the American people who are crying out for representation to the Democratic Party to be heard, and are being betrayed rather than being served by DLC representation and leadership.
The sense of the House of Representatives vote of DLC Democrats to betray the American people, and not to support withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq as is desired by the grass roots Majority population of the United States is one more reason why grass roots replacement of DLC representaion and leadership by Democracy for America, the DFA Wing of the Democratic Party is so urgently necessary.
We must have a strong and united Democratic Party that represents the grass roots majority population of the United States, rather than the self serving DLC Democrats that are currently representing the imperialistic interests of Conservative Right-Wing Republican EXTREMISTS, who currently infest all levels of the Government of the United States, and occupy the White House.
We the majority, the "Working and Poor Class of the United States" must reform the Democratic Party, and rid ourselves of the DLC infestation that currently infests and afflicts the Democratic Party, so that our voice will be heard in the Government of the United States. Until we do so, and replace DLC leadership and representation in the Democratic Party with DFA representation and leadership from the grass roots of the "Working and Poor Class", the majority population of the United States, our voice, the Voice of the People, will not be heard in the House of Representatives, the Senate and government as a whole of the United States.
SUPPORT DFA grass roots representation and leadership of the Democratic Party. It is time for a change.
We the people of the United States are not in a win or lose battle where we can afford to accept the sense of the House of Representatives loss on November 18, 2005. We are in a War to Change the Representation and Leadership of the Democratic Party to grass roots DFA representation and leadership, a movement to provide representation and leadershiup of the "Working and Poor Class" in the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States. We must support this movement and our leader Governor Howard Dean and as we acquire strength through the growth of DFA representation and leadership, we will affect change.
It's time for a change.
Posted by _ThomasG on November 19, 2005 at 09:22 AM
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