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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:52 AM
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KFI poll. Should Tookie WIlliams be put to death. Im anti-death penalty.
In every case.
I am not a pacifist but I believe violence should be the last resort for self defense.
Maybe you are too and want to express your opinion.
Its currently 90% pro death.

http://www.kfi640.com


My personal feeling is that the govt should not be in the business of killing.
It makes society guilty as well and revenge is not justice.
Also it is irreversable and any mistake is final. Justice is not always correct or fair.
Life in prison is a reasonable penalty. It serves society by protecting it from further damage.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:59 AM
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1. I'm anti-death penalty... but what did he do? (convicted for)
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 02:05 AM
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3. murder. gangs. he was a very bad guy.
he has been doing better things with his life though. vary good things.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 02:17 AM
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6. He has admitted doing very, very bad things....
but he has steadfastly claimed innocence in the particular crime he was convicted for.

Stanley Tookie Williams has apologized for co-founding the Crips gang, but he has always maintained his innocence of the crimes that sent him to death row. The main evidence against Stan was the testimony of jailhouse informants who claimed that he had confessed to them. All of these "witnesses" were facing serious felony charges and had strong motivations to make a deal with the police to reduce their own sentences. Since the original trial, another prisoner has come forward to say that he witnessed one of the informants being given the file on Stan's case by members of the Sheriff's Department so that he could learn details about the murders. None of the physical evidence found at the two crime scenes, including fingerprints and a boot print, matched Stan. A witness's description of a person seen leaving the scene of one of the crimes did not fit him either. A shotgun shell supposedly matched a weapon he had bought several years earlier, but that gun was in the possession of a couple that was also facing serious felony charges including the murder of their crime partner. After they claimed that Stan had confessed to them, however, the murder investigation against them was dropped.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 02:01 AM
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2. I'm with you on that
and besides, didn't he turn his life around to help at-risk youth?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 02:14 AM
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4. There's another angle, too: riots.
He was co-founder of the Crips and if he is executed, riots are expected in the prison system. That's just what I hear from my family full of correctional officers.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 02:15 AM
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5. i am against the death penalty
period.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 02:32 AM
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7. AMEN!
and he has done some good as well!
They are only asking clemency, not pardon.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:49 AM
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8. 90% pro death penalty:on a Clear Channel station, I don't expect otherwise
KFI is neocon talk.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 06:11 AM
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9. Williams has spent year trying to keep kids out of gangs since the crimes
he was convicted of took place.

He's written books for kids on the subject, etc. If anyone deserves clemency, it's Williams.

As mentioned above, there are also several questionable aspects of his conviction that alone would warrant clemency.

This is a guy who can do far more good alive, even if still in prison, than he can dead. He's a guy who is looked up to by kids in "the hood" and can go a long way towards keeping these kids from making the same mistakes he made.
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