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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:10 PM
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When will the Christian Right realize they have been duped by Bushco?
Unfortunately, I don't think they ever will. They may acknowledge it, quietly, but if Bush were to run for a third term they would line up like zombies to kiss his ass.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:12 PM
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1. I Depends on How Much Hatred They Have for America
Since we know they have no tolerance for others, it truly depends on how much they hate all of us...
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:12 PM
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2. I'd rather they not realize it
My thinking is that I don't want them switching to someone else. I'd rather them to stay closely associated with the * administration as it continues to unravel.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:15 PM
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3. Never.....they are way to stupid.
These people are just not very bright.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:15 PM
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4. they've spent 2000 years not realizing they've been duped
by the conmen who invented "religion"

so why would they wise up now?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:15 PM
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5. Never.
They rationalize better than anyone or any group I have ever known.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:17 PM
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6. After de-programming and not until. Tho I hesitate to call them
"christian right" as they are neither. (paraphrase of an old saying)

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:17 PM
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7. Technically speaking ...
... there is no such thing as 'the Christian right'. The people who call themselves such, yet continue to support an administration that promotes torture, the gutting of social programs for the poor, and who put the Almighty Buck above the Almighty God, ARE NOT CHRISTIANS in any way, shape or form.
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:22 PM
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13. You are correct!
Fascists however, love the gullible.

People of "faith" are ripe for the picking.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:18 PM
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8. When Condi gets busted giving the shrub head in the oval office
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:20 PM
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11. Seriously, would you let that mouth anywhere near your willie?
I mean, have you actually looked at her?
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:45 PM
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37. No, I'd BETTER
NOT comment WHAT I WAS going to comment about mouths und willies.

:spank:

Sorry, I'm young and I've got no morals.

:spank:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:19 PM
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9. christian right is gaining power. duped or not, they are more
Edited on Sat Nov-26-05 01:19 PM by seabeyond
powerful today, than yesterday and they know they are in momentum. so dupe? what, that bush isnt a true christian? they dont give a fuck. they are going to milk it for all it is worth, because they see they are taking over our law
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:28 PM
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14. Bush did not give up on them- he is as vile and hateful as they are.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:36 PM
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15. not the people of the whole that are being misled by people
they respect and listen to. the vile and hateful are the christian leaders that are not only abusing those they attack, but are also abusing those that are trusting them, and allowing them to be led
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:19 PM
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25. Um... No They Aren't
Just as they rose to power, it today shrinks! They have been duped.... their power lay primarily on perception. And most of America has ALREADY reacted negatively.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:23 PM
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26. i dont know. my texas governor went into a church to sign a bill
that discriminates against gays and was implemented into the texas state constitution a couple weeks ago, all do to christian right caolition and religion becoming law. so i will have to disagree iwth you on this. i do see religious law winning at in the moment. and i am sure the pendulum will swing back the other way, better sooner than later. i just dont see it happening today
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:27 PM
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28. In Certain Locals...
but it's all in vain. Just as they have risen, they will shrink once again. Perception means shit without reality. The reality is, that discriminating against gays just isn't that important nor noble or righteous.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:34 PM
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30. i wasnt suggesting it wouldnt shift. i was stating at the moment
they have more power than they have had in a very long time. they really dont give a shit if bush is really a christian. they will defend and pray and pretend he is cause it behooves them. it benefits them. it also makes them hypocrites, i dont deny
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:40 PM
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34. I Agree This Cult Doesn't Care
if Bush is a Christian or not. Their extremism is however a fact most shrink from. Take heart, and keep fighting the good fight!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:45 PM
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36. high five
right there withyou sister
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:47 PM
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38. Actually I'm Your Bro
cheers
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:48 PM
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39. bah hahahaha
lol lol i was seeing steph, lol, in your name. hit 43 the eyes started going. that is funny. ya bro is good too. thanks for the giggle
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:30 PM
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29. I was thinking the same thing
I don't think they care one iota whether or not he's a true Christian as long as he continues to do their bidding by pushing anti-gay laws and appointing anti-choice people to the judiciary. All other issues seem to be irrelevant to them. I don't even think they'd care that the RNC refers to them as "whackos" as long as they stick to the agenda.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:35 PM
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31. that is the feeling i am getting sittin here in the panhandle of texas
i am around a lot of fundies, the preachers, the goers, the fundie schools. yup
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:19 PM
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10. Never. They still haven't figured out that their demigods are
nothing but lying, hate mongers, with tiny pricks.
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drmom Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:22 PM
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12. Maybe when they realize they've been duped by their own religious leaders!
These religious fundamentalists are truly the sheeple among sheeple. Every Evangelical leader I have seen is living quite well off the money of their congregation, so it is to their direct advantage to make these people loyal followers.

I have many friends in marketing/advertising, and they tell me that this fundamentalist group is their dream demographic. If presented in the "right" way, you can sell these people anything.
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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:38 PM
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16. That's why the Abramoff scandal is lookin' so sweet - Reed &
Dobson, let's see how it plays out for them. I have visited a ton of xian sites in the last few weeks - and MAN, I never knew how many dollars are changing hands here. Every site has a ton o' stuff, and they ain't givin' it away..."dream demographic", I'm sure. Be nice to wake 'em up from their little reverie, eh...
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:17 PM
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22. Exactly. These people will believe anything you say
as long as you tell them that Jesus said so, and as long as its a decent mix of what they want to hear.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:45 PM
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17. When Jesus himself comes to earth and tells each one personally;
"Hellooooo! You can THINK NOW!"
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:46 PM
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18. Right after they arrive at the camps.
Of course they still might be saying "If only Bush knew"
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lovelaureng Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:04 PM
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19. I don't believe that they ever will.
Ignorance is bliss for them.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:17 PM
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23. A certain number of them never will
and they are the hardcore folks. But they have always been there and always will. Bush fits into their worldview quite nicely. But the others will begin looking at the fruit of his administration and be ready for other options.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:36 PM
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32. Oh yes
But hey if my Grandma (my dad's mom) can now question whether or not Bush is a true Christian or not than there is hope for others out there! Sooner or later people will realize it and the gig will be up. I'd rather have sooner please!
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:15 PM
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20. Bushco calls the Christian Right "wackos" behind their backs
If I ever found out someone has been calling me a wacko behind my back, I'd be pissed and I'd tell them to buzz off!
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ShrewdLiberal Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:17 PM
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21. Perhaps when hell freezes over they'll finally realize it.
Since I don't believe in heaven or hell, that will be in an infinite number of years from now, which means never.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:18 PM
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24. I believe they use each other
And they like it that way. I believe they know that. I realized that for sure with the whole Miers ordeal and Dobson. The republicans use the fundies for votes and to stay in power. If they ever get rid of Roe V Wade or ban gay marriage for sure all over the country they know they (the republicans) will lose any potential voters in the future. They do enough to keep the fundie base at bay. They believe that this new judge is for them even though Bush is nothing more than a corporate whore.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:38 PM
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33. I also wanted to add
as others have mentioned this is a perfect way for them to make tons of money selling merchandise and things like that. So they're quite happy. Even though I don't see how they can live with themselves. They've got to be evil.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:26 PM
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27. They haven't been duped.
They are evil.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:41 PM
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35. When the economic hardships get so bad that they can't feed their own
children.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:48 PM
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40. If Tom Delay's buttboy Michael Scanlon describing the Fundies
As "wackos" in an email doesn't do it, then I don't think ANYTHING will.

What was it Scanlon wrote: "We need to get the wackos out to vote" in reference to the Fundies.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:51 PM
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41. You know, Jon Stewart said something on his show that I'd never considered
Edited on Sat Nov-26-05 02:55 PM by Marr
He said the Harriet Myers nomination was, for much of the right-wing, the first time they'd ever been on the 'other side of that (Bush Admin.) arrogance', and they didn't like it. He may have been speaking more of the Federalist Society sorts, but I think it applies to the religious right as well.

Anyway, Bush is already losing alot of support from his fundamentalist base, I suspect. He's hanging on by the thinnest wedge of true-believers.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 03:41 PM
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42. They don't care. OUR tax dollars are bribing their loyalty to bush.
As long as the faith based dollars keep rolling in they will keep pretending to not notice that he is the anti Christ.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 03:48 PM
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43. Who is Duping Whom?
I think that both Bush & the religious Right are bad. They use each other.

Tammy
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