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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:41 PM
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Sounds like a plan -- but it's just a flip-flop
Dick Cheney said this just a week ago:

A precipitous withdrawal from Iraq would be a victory for the terrorists, an invitation to further violence against free nations, and a terrible blow to the future security of the United States of America.


That was in response, of course, to Murtha's call for a withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

The LA Times reported this yesterday:

President Bush will give a major speech Wednesday at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md., in which aides say he is expected to herald the improved readiness of Iraqi troops, which he has identified as the key condition for pulling out U.S. forces... The developments seemed to lay the groundwork for potentially large withdrawals in 2006 and 2007...


And then there was this (in response to this op-ed piece by Joe Biden in the Washington Post, also yesterday):

The White House for the first time has claimed possession of an Iraq withdrawal plan, arguing that a troop pullout blueprint unveiled this past week by a Democratic senator was "remarkably similar" to its own.

It also signaled its acceptance of a recent US Senate amendment designed to pave the way for a phased US military withdrawal from the violence-torn country. ...

In the White House statement, which was released under the headline "Senator Biden Adopts Key Portions Of Administration's Plan For Victory In Iraq," McClellan said the administration of President George W. Bush welcomed Biden's voice in the debate.

"Today, Senator Biden described a plan remarkably similar to the administration's plan to fight and win the war on terror," the spokesman went on to say.

McClellan added that as Iraqi security forces gain strength and experience, "we can lessen our troop presence in the country without losing our capability to effectively defeat the terrorists," (and also said) the White House now saw "a strong consensus" building in Washington in favor of Bush's strategy in Iraq.


You may recall that McClellan himself -- less than two weeks ago -- blasted Murtha for calling for an immediate pullout of troops, accusing him of "endorsing the policy positions of Michael Moore".

So let's review:

Two weeks ago Republicans were calling Democrats cowards for advocating troop withdrawal from Iraq -- and voted 403-3 against doing so -- and next week there will be a plan announced by the President to withdraw troops from Iraq. A plan heretofore unknown, but is "remarkably similar" to a Democrat's plan.

Would that be considered a flip-flop?
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:42 PM
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1. Naw, just more WH lying. Pathological inability to tell the truth.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:51 PM
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2. Scotty's full of it.
While Scottie may have "blasted Murtha for calling for an immediate pullout of troops," Murtha called for withdrawal "at the earliest practicable date."

That's not spin, that's mischaracterization.

A Christian might call it "bearing false witness against thy neighbour."
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:57 PM
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3. Bottom line: They are playing politics with peoples' lives
They will withdraw the troops, but only on their own terms and only if they can get the political credit for it.

Sick, sick, sick.

But should we be suprised?

I am starting to post less and less here because I just don't care any more. At all.

The death toll reaches 2500? I really, honestly, truly, don't care anymore. I don't give a shit.

Republicans want death, and enough Americans want this war (or refuse to do anything about it) that it keeps going and going.

I give up. I don't give a shit.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:01 PM
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4. Yes you do.... n/t
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:07 PM
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5. No, I'd call it lying.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:56 PM
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6. It's not a flip flop,, it's stealing the ball and running with it..
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 08:58 PM by bahrbearian
The dems will stand there and wait for some offical to call foul. As the crowd goes wild!
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 09:33 PM
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7. yes, and when Bush fucks it up as he inevitably WILL
he will say it was the same plan the democrats had and that he warned the nation against it. Just wait. Faux already has the talking points.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 09:46 PM
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8. The dems will stand there and wait for some offical to call foul
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:06 AM
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9. Kicking myself
back up to the top
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