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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:17 PM
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JFK / How the Media Assassinated the Real Story
JFK: How the Media Assassinated the Real Story

By Robert Hennelly & Jerry Policoff

If the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy was one of the darkest tragedies in the republic's history, the reporting of it has remained one of the worst travesties of the American media. From the first reports out of Dallas in November of 1963, to the merciless flagellation of Oliver Stone's JFK over the last several months, the mainstream media have disgraced themselves by hewing blindly to the single-assassin theory advanced by the FBI within hours of the murder.

"Efforts over the last 29 years have met the same fate as Oliver Stone's movie: derision from the mainstream media. At first, the public bought the party line. But gradually, as more and more information slipped through the margins of the media business, and finally through the efforts of Congress itself, the public began to change its mind."

In its very first issue after the assassination, Life magazine seriously misrepresented the content of the Zapruder film, a practice that would continue until the film finally gained general release in 1975. The doctors at Parkland Hospital, who had worked on the president, had reported that he had suffered an "apparent" entrance wound to the throat. Since the book depository, from which Oswald had allegedly fired, was to the presidential limousine's rear, how, some were beginning to wonder, did the president suffer a frontal throat wound? Life's December 6, 1963, edition gave a simple and conclusive explanation, based on the Zapruder film, an answer only Life could provide.

Wrote Life: "The 8mm film shows the President turning his body far around to the right as he waves to someone in the crowd. His throat is exposed to the sniper's nest just before he clutches it." This description of the Zapruder film went a long way toward allaying fears of conspiracy in those early days, for it explained away a troublesome inconsistency in the lone assassin scenario. There was only one problem: The description of the Zapruder film was a total fabrication. Although the film shows Kennedy turning to the right--toward the grassy knoll, that is--at no time does he turn 180 degrees toward the book depository. Indeed, by the time he is hit, he is once again turning toward the front.

"Meanwhile, Life's sister publication, Time, did its best to swat away any and all conspiracy talk. Time countered the ground swell of conspiracy rumors in Europe with an article in its June 12, 1964, issue. Entitled "J.F.K.: The Murder and the Myths," the article blamed the speculation on "leftist" writers and publications seeking a "rightist conspiracy." Proponents of further investigation suffered fates similar to that of Thomas Buchanan, who in 1964 wrote the first book critical of the Warren Report, Who Killed Kennedy. Buchanan's thesis was groundless, Time argued, because he had allegedly been "fired by the Washington Star in 1948 after he admitted membership in the Communist party."

http://www.realhistoryarchives.com/collections/assassinations/jfk/policoff-stone-JKF.htm



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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:31 PM
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1. I only have one question concerning the JKF Assassination.
If... and I say if... the shot from the book depository that hit JFK in the back, traveled through His neck, and then through the Governor and lodging in his thigh was found... Would it not make sense that the trajectory of the "Fatal Head Shot", if, and again I say if, it came from the book depository, that the bullet would have either hit another person, lodged somewhere in the vehicle, or possibly at the very least broken the windshield?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:49 PM
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2. The bullet was found in nearly pristine condition conveniently placed on
a stretcher other than the presidents at Parkland Hospital.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:51 PM
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3. That particular bullet...
Dubbed the "Magic Bullet" was the round that allegedly cause all of the wounds in JFK and the Governor. Not the bullet from the Head Shot.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:59 PM
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6. What a very good point that is easily overlooked.
Thanks for the reminder.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:49 PM
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25. And remember who came up with the theory
of the "magic" bullet.
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Pat Speer Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:51 PM
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4. The single-bullshit theory
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 08:52 PM by Pat Speer
It's worse than that, Mister Normal. Most Lone Nut theorists hold that the first shot missed and somehow wounded James Tague, who was hundreds of feet away from the trajectory from the sniper's nest to Kennedy at so early a point in the Zapruder film. Since they also believe in the magic bullet (and most probably the tooth fairy), this means they believe one bullet from Oswald's gun hit a twig, broke into pieces, and impacted the street hundreds of feet away from Kennedy, and the next bullet fired rom the same gun, a mere 3 seconds later, went through Kennedy's back, exited his neck, hit Connally in the armpit, exited his chest, smashed through his wrist and embedded itself in his thigh, only to fall out on a stretcher in near perfect condition. To repeat a baaad joke first made in my recent presentation on the medical evidence (available online at homepage.mac.com/bkohley), if only Kennedy had been wearing a twig hat on November 22nd,1963, we would never have sent ground troops to Vietnam and the world would be a much better place.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:55 PM
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5. I am a firm belieiver....
... that there was more than one gunman in Dallas that day.

And anyone that thinks different hasn't read enough.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:51 PM
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27. If you look at what happens to him
on the video you have to know there was more than one person there that day. Remember why they wanted to get rid of Kennedy. Check out Operation Northwoods. I highly believe that is apart of the reason majorly.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:01 PM
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7. Guess who was the creative genius who crafted that 'bullshit' theory?
None other than Mr. Arlen Spector.

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Pat Speer Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:16 PM
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8. Specter and then some
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 09:17 PM by Pat Speer
There are a number of men whose reputations are at risk if the truth comes out. Gerry Ford, of course, was the Warren Commissioner who asked that all references to the back wound be changed to the back of the neck when the wound was, of course, on Kennedy's back. (He might not have understood this, however. As with Dubya and his WMD gaffes, Ford has the built-in excuse that he was not well-enough informed to know what he was doing--exactly what we want in our leaders!) Another powerful man to sign off on the theory that Oswald performed the fatal shooting is Senator Christopher Dodd--although the record shows he actually raised some intelligent issues in the House Select Committee hearings. Yet another whose career could take a turn south should the truth be revealed would be CIA Director Porter Goss, who was personally acquainted with many of the top suspects in the CIA. Finally, the celebrated coroner Dr. Michael Baden, of cable TV fame,led the forensic pathology panel in the HSCA investigation. His work is an absolute travesty--as I showed in my recent presentation. (Hopefully, someone else will do the autopsy if he kills me.)
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:09 PM
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9. Porter Goss is connected/aquainted with some of the top CIA suspects?
Interesting. Would perhaps be a full circle his appointment to the CIA. I would wonder if his career would go south? Is it perhaps his career experience and connections that has been the reason for his ascension to the head of the CIA?

This web continues to become more closely entangled.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:27 PM
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22. The question always is: Who do you own?
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 11:28 PM by Beam Me Up
There are a lot of dirty hands in this 'national security' shit pot. Nothing will come to nothing until some deep insiders begin to come forward, and, as I understand it, they aren't likely to do that without some criminal investigation. The death of JFK is well behind us but the lies that got us into the Iraq war are scattered about our feet. The biggest, fattest, ugliest and most dirty of them all is the psyop of mythical proportions called "9/11".
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:54 PM
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29. I wouldn't be surprised
if it's all the same players. And there's one person who ends up everywhere since the Kennedy assisination. Poppy.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:08 AM
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34. Yeah. "Dear old 'Dad'."
He owns a lot of people, don't he? A more sinister human being is difficult to imagine. Yet, I'm sure there are a few. Kissinger, purely for example, comes to mind. They may not be lizards but they might as well be.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:53 PM
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28. Don't forget Poppy
He was actually there that day with Barbara and Nixon (not together) was there as well. Poppy is still the only grown adult who can't remember where he was when Kennedy was killed. If my own mother can remember when she was a little girl than surely Poppy does.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:35 PM
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23. By the way: Welcome to DU.
It's a long way from Kansas but hope you're as glad to be here as we are to have you.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:50 PM
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26. All you have to do is look
at the autopsy of him. How could ONE bullet blow out his brains and go through his throat? Seriously. Just watch the video.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:03 AM
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37. Hi Pat Speer!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:10 PM
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10. Bush Sr., Nixon connection with JKF Assassination?
From Hennelly / Policoff article: "Today, there are hundreds of thousands of documents relating to the Kennedy assassination kept from public scrutiny in classified files."

Perhaps because Bush Sr was involved?
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/kennedy.html


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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:19 PM
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13. It is interesting they both were in Dallas during the assasination.
Although what is more interesting is George Sr. claims he doesnt recall where he was on that most significant day.
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Pat Speer Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:40 PM
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16. George sr. on 11-22-63
I believe there is a record of George I calling in shortly after the assassination and reporting a young man with the last name of Parrot, whom he felt should be a suspect. Parrot was a loudmouth John Birch Society type. While this phone call would make for a convenient alibi, I just don't see dadya being involved in the actual assassination.

He was friends with Oswald's best friend, however, a man named George de Mohrenschildt. De mohenschildt has the amazing distinction of being Oswald's best friend, a pen pal of LBJ's, a former business associate of William F. Buckley's father, a member of the same oilmen's club as Bush I (he even called him Poppy as I remember), AND of having been a former beau of Jackie Kennedy's mom when Jackie was a child. Conveniently, he killed himself before being questioned by the HSCA in 1977.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:56 PM
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30. Very interesting timing
And the thing to remember with guys like Poppy is they NEVER do anything to leave hand prints. They have to cover their tracks and they get other people to do their dirty work. Look at Karl Rove for example. Only thing with Karl is he isn't quite as experienced as Poppy. I mean heck the Bush family is all purely evil way back to at least Samuel Bush.
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Pat Speer Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:25 PM
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14. B ush/Goss
Among most serious researchers of the Cuban exile community and the Kennedy assassination there is little doubt that Bush's Zapata offshore company was a CIA front and that Bush was working for the CIA at the time of the Bay of Pigs. Porter Goss was a CIA agent working out of JMWAVE, the Miami station which was the focus of all the anti-Castro activity before and after the BOP. The possibility exists therefore that Goss knows about Bush I's involvement, and that this has helped his career. Even if Bush I is innocent of any actual involvement, Dubya would still want to keep his dad's former occupation a secret, if only to protect his legacy. Bush I denied any previous employment of the CIA when he was appointed CIA director by Gerry Ford. It was quite controversial at the time because no one could figure why he was qualified to run the CIA, and why Ford would trust him to run such a delicate operation. The press found its answer when the Nation, as I remember, uncovered memos from J. Edgar Hoover mentioning his discussion with a George Bush of the CIA. The Bush clan has been lying about this ever since, and is hoping daddy's little white lie before congress will disappear down the WMD-hole.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:07 PM
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21. Interesting. Thank you Pat for the info. Welcome to DU by the way***
Glad you've joined us!

:)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:57 PM
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31. Of course
And yes Nixon made reference to something called Operation Zapata and how convenient that was Poppy's oil company's name at the same time and located in Texas.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:03 AM
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38. Hi nilram!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:12 PM
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11. anyone remember Marr's book?
Made me believe Oliver Stone.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:17 PM
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12. No, tell us more. Ive never heard of it.
n/t
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Pat Speer Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:29 PM
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15. Jim Marrs' book?
Jim Marrs' book is entitled Crossfire, and is an effective overview of the Kennedy assassination. It was one of three primary sources for the movie JFK. Strangely enough, I met Jim and interviewed him on the 18th, after his presentation in Dallas.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:59 PM
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18. Thanks for the info***I will check it out.
n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:59 PM
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32. What all does he say?
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:57 PM
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17. This is really weird. I remember reading a very well documented
expose of the JFK assassination in-of all places-- some Computer World (or something like that) article published in the early 1970's.

I haven't been able to locate the article again. I read it while attending American University studying for a computer course. I was shocked about how much detail and documentation accompanied this article but even more amazed that it was published in a computer periodical. Anyone else ever read that article?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:00 PM
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19. Can you remember a title/author? What was the overall content?
n/t
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:03 PM
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20. I found there are great interviews and Kennedy/Garrison information at
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 11:04 PM by shance
prouty.org

Great interviews/press conference with Oliver Stone

Terrific stuff with Jim Garrison and very interesting interviews with Colonel Prouty.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:39 PM
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24. "Why they hate Oliver Stone"
<< Many of Stone's critics have accused him of an act of malicious propaganda. In fact, it is part of the sordid reality of our times that Hollywood is about the only institution left in our country big and powerful enough to challenge the influence of state propaganda that controls our lives with hardly a murmur from the same journalists so incensed by Stone.

Where were these seekers of truth, for example, during the Gulf Massacre? >>

(snip)

<< And, if movies are to be held to the standards set for JFK, where are the parallel critiques of "Gone With the Wind" and a horde of other cinemagraphic myths that are part of the American consciousness?

No, Stone's crime was not that his movie presents a myth, but that he had the audacity and power to challenge the myths of his critics.

(snip)

It is, for example, Tom Brokaw and Cokie Roberts who are ordained to test Democratic candidates on their catechism, not mere members of the public or even the candidates themselves. It is for the media to determine which practitioners of violence, such as Henry Kissinger and Richard Helms, are to be statesmen and which, like Lee Harvey Oswald and James Earl Ray, are mere assassins. It is their privilege to determine which of our politicians have vision and which are fools, and which illegal or corrupt actions have been taken in the national interest and which to subvert that interest. And this right, as Leslie Gelb might put it, is not to be trifled with by Oliver Stone or anyone else.

Because Oliver Stone dared to step on the mythic turf of the news media, Stone has accomplished something truly remarkable that goes far beyond the specific facts of the Kennedy killing. For whatever, if any, errors in his recounting of that tale, his underlying story tells a grim truth. Stone has not only presented a detailed, if debatable, thesis for what happened in Dallas on one day, but a parable of the subsequent thirty years of America's democratic disintegration.

For in these decades one finds repeated and indisputable evidence -- Watergate, Iran-Contra, BCCI, the war on drugs, to name just a few -- of major politicians and intelligence services working in unholy alliance with criminals and foreign partisans to malevolently affect national policy. And as late as the 1980s, we have documentation from the Continuity in Government program that at least some in the Reagan administration were preparing for a coup d'état under the most ill-defined conditions.>>

http://emporium.turnpike.net/P/ProRev/stone.htm

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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:03 AM
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33. Excelent read, that, Shance. Thanks!
:applause:
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:41 AM
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35. more than welcome Beamer :)
n/t
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Pat Speer Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:41 AM
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36. Medical Evidence
Anyone sincerely interested in the medical evidence and the government's manipulation of same can read my recent presentation here http://homepage.mac.com/bkohley/Menu18.html
JFK: A New Perspective (2005)

Be forewarned. It's a monster.
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