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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:27 PM
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FOX news: It's Our Own Troops Fault That Iraqi Troops Won't Stand Up
"A segment on Studio B with Shepard Smith brought out a new reason why the Iraqi troops aren't standing up when we stand down. It came from Fox Military Analyst, Bill Cowan. Cowan is a retired Marine officer and now serves as a gung ho military analyst on Fox and is a frequent guest on Studio B.

Guess what he's stating is the reason that we can't get the Iraqi troops to stand up?

I couldn't believe it when I heard him say it, but Cowan said one of the reasons that the Iraqi troops aren't standing up is that our own troops (he called them our own war fighters) want to go after the insurgents themselves so, they are being greedy and want to go out and fight the insurgents themselves and are not letting the Iraqi's do the job because of this. To hear Cowan tell it - they don't want to come home, they don't even want to let the Iraqi's do the shooting."

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/12/01/fox_military_analyst_says_its_our_own_troops_fault_that_iraqi_troops_wont_stand_up.php#more
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:29 PM
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1.  I thought it was the Left that blamed the troops!
Why does Fox News hate America?
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:30 PM
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Bill Cowan and FOX News hates America, huh?
:evilgrin:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:30 PM
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2. That's easy enough to believe
It's a matter of esprit de corps - our military naturally assumes they are far superior to the Iraqis, and so when something important comes along, they shove them aside. This sort of attitude is probably generally beneficial when the military is used for what it's supposed to do; but obviously has downsides when they are expected to serve as cops or trainers.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:33 PM
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5. So if that is true, this is an endless loop?
Our "esprit de corps" will prevent Iraqi troops from ever being able to 'stand up' so we can stand down?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:00 PM
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11. and also bragging rights--which translates into promotions for 'taking
the hill"---in this case city.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:32 PM
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3. I've heard these ex-Colonels....
...before in places like a Tactical Operation Center (TOC). Us warriors always thought the same thing of them: Fucking REMF.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:33 PM
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4. They're hippy terrorist sympathizers!
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 04:53 PM by kenny blankenship
They're in league with the ACLU and the Al-Quaeda war on Christmas. They're Allah-huggers now and won't be home for Christmas--ever. They hate America, don't want to come home and just want to stay in Iraq until the big linkup with Iran and California happens! It's a bin Laden PLOT! They're dragging their feet in order to leave our backdoor open to Mexican invasion! They're hooked on Afghani brown heroin--but good!--so leaving Asia would kill them. They've got desert dust up their noses and have all gone native. You wouldn't recognize them now. They'd rape their own mothers.

Nothing is too crazy, no plot too diabolical, for these liberal wolves in sheep's clothing we call Our Troops. OH WHY do they hate America so?
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:38 PM
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6. That's right! Blame America first! eom
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:38 PM
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7. The Iraqi troops know fighting their own people won't win very many
hearts and minds with their fellow Iraqi's..
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:40 PM
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8. America Hater. To be expected from the blame America first Faux News.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:43 PM
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9. Duuuuuuuuuuuh...
Wha?

The troops don't want to come home huh? Is there a poll or evidence to show...ohhhh, sorry, Fox News, nevermind.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:56 PM
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10. well shit, maybe we'd better just back off and let 'em do it then
maybe we could withdraw a little way, say... into kuwait?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:10 PM
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12. My Marine Lt. Col. pal told me
that his brothers-in-arms on the ground in Iraq are going out of their minds because the Iraqis they try to train just run away. They don't want to get killed.

Actually, they're being trained to kill their own countrymen. That's got to cause some serious conflict.

"Run away, run away!!!"

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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 06:29 PM
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13. Hey, it's as much fun as duck hunting. If you're a duck.
The Iraqi troops run away because they have somewhere to run to. If a squad ducks down an alley and holes up for an hour the locals might not kill them. If a GI pulls that stunt he gets to star on the 6 o'clock news getting shaved.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 06:50 PM
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14. shrug. it might be true for some of them nt
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