This really offensive e-mail was forwarded to me today,

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

and I am trying to decide whether to just delete it or write a blistering rebuttal. The original author is probably beyond redemption, but the person who forwarded this crap to me is salvageable, I think, and I really can't figure out why he sent it to me because I'm sure he knew it would piss me off. WTF is wrong with people?

"Story in
Tampa Newspaper

Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice ??????

Think about it .

All I have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS? I celebrate Christmas, but because it isn't celebrated by everyone, we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings. It's not Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday? We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with that.


This says it all!
This is an editorial written by an
American citizen, published in a
Tampa newspaper. He did quite a job; didn't he?
Read on, please!


IMMIGRANTS,
NOT AMERICANS,
MUST ADAPT.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we
are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11,
we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few things that those
who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you
consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part
of our culture.

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have
no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do
so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great American freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.

It is Time for America to Speak up
If you agree -- pass this along;
if you don't agree -- delete it!

AMEN

I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later
get back to the complainers, lets all try, please."

[Guaranteed]

1. That's absolutely disgusting.

Those emails make me sick- especially when I hear that they're being forwarded.

[babylonsister]

2. If he's a good friend, calmly disagree and request no more

e-mails like this. Otherwise, let him have it!
I lost a good friend this fall through a similar situation, different e-mail. I let her have it and we haven't talked since. I miss her and if I had a do-over, I'd respond differently, but I'll be damned if I'll apologize.

[CTyankee]

3. Wow! Looks like the author is one of the biggest complainers!

Delete this message. Get it out of your consciousness immediately. It is not good for anybody's mental health.

[hwmnbn]

4. I would tell him/her to go back to wherever they came from.....

and take all their immigrant ancestors with them. Then I'd delete them from my "safe" list causing any further e-mails from them to go directly to the trash.

[Bjornsdotter]

5. I like to correct them

...and send them back to everyone who blindly sent it on. Then in my parting shot I always add..."I know that YOU are aware that the information is incorrect and that You sent it purely for amusement value; however be careful who you send it to...after all some people will believe anything."

Seems to have cut down severely on my "stupid as shit" emails.

Cheers!

[grannylib]

6. *lol* excellent response! I will have to try that.

[Bjornsdotter]

20. Thank-you! n/t

[DemonFighterLives]

16. That is awesome

:yourock:

[Bjornsdotter]

19. Thank-you! n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. Very very offensive

[BJW]

8. respond with "Seasons Greetings"

as this is one phrase not yet targeted in the really stupid nothing war on war on Xmas.

[China_cat]

9. This is the email that caused my

daughter-in-law to cut off my access to my son when I sent it back to her, corrected and with the request never to send me shit like that again.

My son has MS and not able to work full-time so she's the breadwinner and pays the bills. Had a 'parental' block but on the email to keep me out and changed their phone number.

[BJW]

10. sounds like you need to create a new account

at your public library. It's really a damn shame how much Bushco & the Whackos are tearing us all apart like this--over stupid NOTHING "wars"

[China_cat]

12. No, I won't do that.

And my son understands. All it would do is create problems for him that he can't afford since he got sick. If I could afford to pay for his medical bills, I'd do it in a heartbeat but I can't afford my own, let alone what it costs for MS treatment.

[GrantDem]

11. I also received that email

I just deleted it. All part of the O'reilly, Hannity, and Gibson "War on Christmas" bullshit

[Marie26]

13. Is there some secret right-wing meeting

where they come up with this stuff? All of a sudden this "War on Christmas" is everywhere; triggered by... nothing. They don't even need a reason or a conflict anymore; just come up w/a talking point & everyone will start repeating it. I think the real underlying message is encouraging people to buy, buy, buy for Christmas.

[babylonsister]

14. Secret right-wing meeting? Yes, in my case, it's

called my brother's church. They tell him how to feel, act, etc.

[crispini]

15. If you do choose to reply, don't write a long rebuttal.

They don't get read anyway. Go for a one-liner or so. I think my choice would be:

"Boo Hoo! More of the ruling majority trying to pretend that they're victimized. Cry me a river, Baybee. So sorry that you have to pretend you're a victim in order to feel better about yourself."

[DemonFighterLives]

17. This red, white and blue rah rah sh*t pissed me off

If these freaks who wrote and believe this can't live with others in "The Melting Pot" then they should go elsewhere.
:freak:
I usually get this kind of crap from my cousin who has a real mental problem, so I delete them. If she was all there, I would trash the e-mails and her.
O8)

[davsand]

18. Oh yeah--I did get that one.

There is a woman I work with that includes me on her list when she sends stuff like that out. Sometimes she DOES send me some funny jokes so I hate to tell her to STFU. Usually I just delete the offensive ones and get over it.

I dunno, seems to me that there are people that you simply can't reach (no matter how compelling your argument) and there's no use pissing into the wind with it. This particular email is one of those. The flag waving patriots could benefit from a history lesson sometimes ("love it or leave it" and the entire issue of immigrants assimilating into our culture are only two examples) but some days I lack the energy to be a teacher.

Other days I'll wade in and try to remind them that our nation IS one of people who came from someplace else or was created by political dissidents. I find that talking about our national history is the one argument that they will listen to even if it is with only half hearted interest.

YMMV.



Laura

[RebelOne]

21. I've gotten that e-mail from several people within

the past couple of years. I just hit the delete button.

[ScooterKen]

22. Send him this email back.......

You could not be MORE wrong about this country being founded on judeo-christian ideals.

Thomas Jefferson: "Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law."
George Washington: "The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy."
James Madison: "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."
John Adams: "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."

To all of those who believe that our founding fathers founded this country on religion, most notably Christianity... please re-think your position. These are the same founding fathers who are viewed as great men, who are quoted unequivocally and whose ideas and laws are considered the best-laid of any in history.

It is ridiculous when things such as the following are accepted:
- In 1854, the House Judiciary Committee said: "in this age, there is no substitute for Christianity...That was the religion of the founders of the republic, and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants."

This is absolutely not the case.

Thomas Jefferson said each of the following:

- "The Christian god can be easily pictured as virtually the same as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of the people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites."

- "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man"

- "The authors of the gospels were unlettered and ignorant men and the teachings of Jesus have come to us mutilated, misstated and unintelligible"

These men founded our country and these are their opinions... stop throwing that "America was founded on Christian beliefs" crap at us... it's just NOT TRUE.

[troubleinwinter]

25. Treaty of Tripoli, 1797

Article 11 of The Treaty of Tripoli, ratified and unanimously approved by the Senate in 1797, and signed by John Adams:

"... the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion..."

[ScooterKen]

26. OOO, nice, thanks for that!

I'll add it to my file.
:D

[troubleinwinter]

27. Read article 11... it relates to

not conducting acts of hostility or war upon a Muslim nation!!!!


"...as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation..."

[unpossibles]

28. also don't forget that Christmas is not Christian

Almost everything about the holiday, with the exception of Jesus' birthday (which is most likely not in December anyway) are Roman and Celtic in origin.

The only thing worse than an ignorant jackass, is one who insists on ignoring facts and spreading the propaganda, all in the name of xenophobia.

[Saphire]

23. I like it when people tell me to go back to my own country. I just show

them my D.A.R. card...this IS my country.

[Cleita]

29. Why would they tell you unless you speak with a foreign accent?

That seems really ignorant even for brain challenged freepers.

[troubleinwinter]

24. 'In God We Trust" is NOT the nat'l motto. Just the one we put on MONEY.

E pluribus unum is a national motto of the United States of America. Translated from Latin, it means "From many, one" or "Out of many, one,"... The motto was selected by the first Great Seal committee in 1776, at the beginning of the American Revolution.

In 1956, "In God We Trust" (invented in 1863, by the Director of the US Mint) was added as another national motto, but did not replace E pluribus unum.

[Cleita]

30. This is the same crap some posters on DU were putting up

when the Minutemen patrolling the border story arose. I haven't seen those posters since, but the racist crap they delivered was extraordinarily offensive.

[Cleita]

31. Just another thought as well. When people complain about

those who don't speak English, remind them that they don't either. To speak English, you pretty much have to be English or educated there. What we speak is one of many American dialects of English. We don't even use the same spelling rules

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

32. My 2 cents is --

Point 1.
I use common sense: if I know somebody celebrates Christmas, I say "Merry Christmas." If I don't know what they celebrate, I say "Happy Holidays." That way I don't look like an unsophisticated, backwards person.

Point 2.
Anybody can flaunt their religion or politics or whatever else they want. Of course, perceptive people will realize that the more someone flaunts something, the more insecure they must be about it.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

33. Also,

Point 3.
Whoever wrote this is an ignorant, hateful person.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. Wow a lot of ignorance there

When did "In God We Trust" become a national motto? I think I missed the memo. And the only people here who live here who aren't some how immigrants are those who are of Native American decent. Key word: native. And whatever happened to politeness and remembering other people's faith? I guess that's so 90's now. Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I have the rights to go around and parade on OTHER PEOPLE'S RIGHTS to celebrate their holiday's. If I don't know someone I'm going to say "happy holiday's" because they could be of any faith or none of all. Sounds like someone should read up on their American history and their Constitution/Bill of Rights. Nobody is being locked up for saying "Merry Christmas". It's called courtesy and politeness.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

35. Give that idiot a copy of Thomas Jefferson's memoirs.

He believed in God, but wasn't a Christian. He was an avid Pot Smoker, he even grew the stuff! Shock the shit out of them!
Duckie

[Neil Lisst]

36. I get at least one of those a day.

Usually sandwiched between the good news that THEY are not telling me about all the schools in Iraq that are back in operation, and the one about the little kid who loved God.

Let us pray.