CNN: BREAKING: GOLD BARS LUSKIN AND V.NOVAK WILL BE TESTIFYING NEXT WEEK

[Halliburton]

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_11_27_atrios_archive.html#113355991188280668

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[stop the bleeding]

1. this is interesting to say the least - is this real?

I went to CNN and could not confirm this, and I do not know if this site is a joke or real

could someone answer this?

[Halliburton]

2. here's what Bob franken said

OB FRANKEN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's very delicate. We're picking up that there could be two principals in this getting deposed next week giving sworn statements. Those two would include Karl Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin and Viveca Novak of "Time Magazine."

Now it really comes down to, when all is said and done, a question of who said what to whom when.

And the who is very important because we're being told by a variety of sources that the special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, was planning to indict Karl Rove for misrepresenting during the investigation an interview comments that he had made to a reporter. However, there was a key conversation, sources say, and there may have been a misunderstanding by the special prosecutor that a conversation that he was attributing to Rove with Viveca Novak of "Time Magazine" may, in fact, have really been held by Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin.

As we've talked many times before, you and I, and just about any reporter who's been involved in this, has had conversations on the record with Luskin.

So now comes the process where Luskin is going to be testifying under oath during this deposition then Novak. Then Fitzgerald is going to have to make a decision on whether he will change his mind about indicting Rove.

It gets kind of complicated, and it gets even more complicated when you're told by the variety of sources this will not end the investigation. This is something that could go on for a while as they'll be looking for other parties who may have had a role in all of this--Wolf.
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Now the only reason Fitz would misinterpret something here is if someone was lying their ass off (Rove).

:popcorn:

[writes2000]

3. Hot Shit! Rove lied AGAIN to protect his ass!

So Rove or Luskin told Fitzgerald that V. Novak told Rove that Cooper was saying Rove was his source. And apparently they told Fitzgerald this piece of info at the very last minute...just before Fitzgerald was about to indict. Why didn't they mention it before, like during the second, third or fourth time Rove testified, one wonders?

But now that Fitz has talked to V. Novak for himself, he learns that V. Novak didn't talk to Rove directly but talked to Luskin. And I'm guessing Luskin is saying that he then asked Rove to recollect talking to Cooper?

C'mon! This is obviously obstruction...and desperate at that. I hope Fitz is pissed at Luskin.

[Don Claybrook]

14. If this is the game they're playing

If Fitzgerald was about to indict the Twinkie boy, and suddenly just before the buzzer, they inform Fitzgerald that he's not understanding the whole thing correctly, that Luskin talked instead of Rove...if this is the case, they'd better have their lies airtight and practiced from every angle. Fitzgerald can still go Ronnie Earle on them and start dragging Rove's family members into court. Or maybe he could start bringing every admin official who has already testified and grill them again. I don't know much about Mr. Fitzgerald's world, but I'm certain he has the wherewithal to escalate and retaliate.

It sounds like a desperate attempt on Rove's part, because he must know that if he doesn't get by with this brazen act of obstruction, he'll likely be destroyed in the process. It's time to discard all this manufactured Rove mystique and call his bluff. I don't think he has anything other than bluster and a keen desire to worm his way out of this bad, deep shit.

This vicious little geek has met his Waterloo. Or Alamo, as the case may be.

[flordehinojos]

4. they (the rove attorney and the viveka novak woman will have their act

together by the time they testify so as to keep rove off the hook).

[Shakespeare]

5. That explains why Libby has a new lawyer.

If Luskin testifies, that pretty much precludes him from representing Libby.

[AlCzervik]

7. Libby already hired a big gun, as far as i know he never rep'd Libby.

[Shakespeare]

16. I'm talking about Luskin.

If he knew there was a possibility he'd have to testify, he'd have known a long time ago (and thus Libby's hiring of the big gun).

[creeksneakers2]

6. I think they are going there to try to clear Rove

I can't believe an attorney in the case would allow himself to become a witness without fighting and bringing up confidentiality, etc....unless, the attorney believe the outcome of his testimony would be favorable.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

12. My 2¢ - Luskin is being called to testify not about what he and

Libby or Rove discussed but what he and V. Novak talked about. I wouldn't think there would be attorney client privilege attached to those conversations unless he is her attorney, too.

[Independent_Liberal]

8. Keeping this kicked!

[madokie]

9. keeping it kicked

:kick:

[MagickMuffin]

10. Great Article from Media Matters

They explain the cozy relationship that Laskin and Novak had, apparently they are friends.

A lot of the articles I have read indicate that V.Novak and B.Novak are not related, maybe they aren't but from the looks of their actions they might as well be.

The revelation in a December 2 New York Times article regarding Novak's conversation is significant for at least two reasons. First, Novak, an experienced journalist working for a prestigious publication, disclosed to Rove's lawyer information that she did not give to her readers and that Cooper would zealously try to withhold for more than a year on the basis of the purportedly sacrosanct anonymity agreement between a reporter and a source. Second, Novak may have affirmatively helped Rove -- a source the magazine covers and will continue to cover -- beat a perjury rap, not by exonerating him through a story in the course of her job, but by providing his lawyer with information in a private conversation.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512020016

The original story from which Media Matters breaks it down for us.

A conversation between Karl Rove's lawyer and a journalist for Time magazine led Mr. Rove to change his testimony last year to the grand jury in the C.I.A. leak case, people knowledgeable about the sequence of events said Thursday.

Mr. Rove's lawyer, Robert D. Luskin, spoke in the summer or early fall of 2004 with Viveca Novak, a reporter for Time. In that conversation, Mr. Luskin heard from Ms. Novak that a colleague at the magazine, Matthew Cooper, might have interviewed Mr. Rove about the C.I.A. officer at the heart of the case, the people said.

So, V.Novak helped Rove to un-perjure himself. WOW, UNBELIEVABLE

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/02/politics/02leak.html?ei=5090&en=f8847a8847b4c88f&ex=1291179600&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

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[johnfunk]

11. Viveca Novak unperjuring Karl Rove? Let's not forget that there's the issu

... of the Karl Rove aide who is reported to have testified that Rove asked her to keep some of his phone calls out of the official log.

I smell big time obstruction charges -- AND Espionage Act charges to boot!

[symbolman]

13. THAT is Speculation by Raw Story

and was reported on Keith Olbermann, yet refuted in a way a the same time, the refutation was that Raw Story was a site that spread unconfirmed conspiracies (some of which I agree with slightly)--

We don't know that to be a FACT.

But after studying this whole situation and making a film (a 2 DVD set called "Rove's War" at http://www.takebackthemedia.com) about it I am willing to bet the farm that ROVE WILL be indicted at some point, within I think a few months..

and this Luskin, V. Novak, Rove looks like a Fitzgerald "hat trick" to me :)

I hope he slaps the shit out of ALL of them.. remember, NO ONE knows what Fitz if doing, if they say they do they are ONLY Speculating or they are one of the White House Criminal's cabal Lawyers..

Luskin has be driving MUCH of the news, then after that we get rampant Speculation, which some sites take advantage of, and others use to illuminate us..

[Beetwasher]

15. This Has Just Launched Into the BEYOND SURREAL!

It's passed a threshhold where it is now an objective impossibility to actually grasp what's going on in this case.