The odd thing about this whole Christmas debate is....

[dutchdemocrat]

Many Christian churches dislike the secular focus on Santa and the materialist focus that present-giving gives to the holiday. They would prefer that focus be given to the birth of Jesus, their nominal reason for the Christmas celebration. It should be noted that the festivities at this time of year are predated by the Roman Saturnalia and Germanic Yule festivals which were subsumed within Christianity. It should also be noted that the date of Jesus' birth is not known. The connection between Saturnalia and Jesus' birth was a clerical decision in order to introduce a religious element into the more carnal festivities that the Christian laity were indulging in during winter solstice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

[Hamlette]

1. no, the odd thing is that we are talking about it...

DU and Fox news seem to be the only places discussing this. IMO.

[dutchdemocrat]

2. Well.

The meme is at DU. I don't get Fox - so, I am finding the phenomena odd and perhaps seeing it larger than it really is. That's what happens when you get your news from DU breaking I guess.

[seabeyond]

3. my boys christian school allowed NO santa, reindeers, snowmen

you are right. they want to take the santa out of christmas. so when you hear them say we want to take the christ out, they want to take the santa out.

[sallyseven]

4. Well I am in favor of no gifts on Christmas.

We should go to church and pray for our souls to go to the great beyond. I would save a lot of money then I could buy a nice fur coat for myself.

[HockeyMom]

6. the giving of gifts is supposed to symbolize

the gifts given to the Christ Child by the Magi - frankincense, incense, and muhr (spelling?).

[HockeyMom]

5. Santa is a corruption of the

Catholic St. Nicholas. Doesn't surprise me that they want him out. In the Netherlands, they have what is know as Little Christmas, December 6th, which is St. Nicholas feast day.

Santa Claus was not made up by the secularists.

[A Simple Game]

8. Santa Claus was not made up by the secularists.

True, true, but, he was exploited by them.

[seabeyond]

9. but but but ..... i like santa. n/t

[TahitiNut]

7. How about those 'carnal festivities,' huh? More! I say, more!

:evilgrin: Now, where did I leave my pipes?