Sorry Hillary, but you can't kiss enough RW ass to make them vote for you.

[cantstandbush]

I always thought that Hillary had much more intelligence than this.

[WindRavenX]

1. as did I

:(

[mopaul]

2. she may as well run as a repub, maybe that will do the trick

but they hate here more than they did her husband.

[paulk]

3. would you care to link this to a statement or something?

or is this just another generic Hilary bashing thread?

[ronnykmarshall]

4. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

:popcorn:

[LSparkle]

6. She's pushing anti-flag-burning legislation

as a ploy to get red staters' support.

[AZBlue]

18. No she's not. It's a very limited bill.

The Bennett-sponsored measure outlaws a protester intimidating any person by burning the flag, lighting someone else's flag, or desecrating the flag on federal property.

What's wrong with these few specific restrictions?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

20. Because it violates the First Amendment by criminalizing symbolic speech.

You can't tapdance around the Constitution by throwing in some bullshit language about "intimidating" people. The Constitution protects symbolic speech, even that which is obnoxious and offensive.

[iconoclastNYC]

28. Germany didn't go Fascist overnight.

Sometimes the slope is slippery.

[Voltaire99]

29. As Satchmo once said when asked what jazz is...

...if you have to ask, you'll never understand.

Criminalizing political speech helps crush dissent. Endorsing even this limited law places Hillary squarely in the McCarthyite tradition.

A sad, sad day for the Democratic Party: its leading candidate is revealed as an imbecile and a dangerous one at that. Best start working on Plan B.

[Skidmore]

7. I've stayed out of these as much as possible.

However, at this point, I would not support Hillary in the primaries. She's too conservative for me at the moment. Not a matter of bashing, just don't like some of the stuff she endorses now.

[WindRavenX]

9. same here

And I LOVE Hillary. :(

[DanCa]

24. I'll only vote for her if she wins the nom.

And probably because I'd would be more than likely voting against the repuke nominee than for her.

[paulk]

26. I don't support anyone right now - three years out

from the election.

But, even though I do have some serious issues with Ms. Clinton, I don't find the constant trashing of her here at DU very productive.

And most of it is trashing.

On the other hand, I'm beginning to think that that's what DU is for - a place to come and dump on your Democrat of choice.

So I guess it's ok.

[Skidmore]

8. Oops....inadvertant doublepost. Please delete.

[LSK]

10. real life?????

Isnt this common knowledge? Most Republicans know her as Hitlery and then they SHUT OFF anything else about her. ANYTHING!

Do you know many republicans?

[paulk]

21. I know quite a few Republicans

they hate her just as much as most of the posters at DU seem to... or maybe it's the other way around...


actually, that's not completely true - many of my Republican relatives in upstate NY (where she actually holds office) have come to (begrudgingly, at least) respect her. So - I'm not convinced Hilary's move to the center is totally stupid. Like the OP is. Assuming that was the OP's point.

[AZBlue]

15. I was wondering the same thing.

[Tesha]

27. Why do we hate thee? Let me count the ways...

1. IWR
2. Doing the Right's work by worrying about porn, video games
3. Supporting the flag-burning ban
4. Whatever pandering comes next...

Tesha

[LSparkle]

5. This is pathetic ... with all that's going on in the world

THIS is the issue she thinks will reverberate in the "Red States"?

She ought to try:

The disconnect between Wall Street and Main Street (especially in some of the less affluent "Red States").

Making us safer -- evidence the failing grades on the 9/11 commission "report card."

Restoring the public's trust in its representatives by getting rid of the culture of cronyism and corruption.

[chat_noir]

11. video games and flag burning?

C'mon Hillary, there are really big issues to spend your media time on, e.g., healthcare.

[Beelzebud]

17. 2 sure-fire issues to destroy whatever momentum the dems were getting...

[donco6]

12. I'm still watching, but this really disappoints me.

I don't care if it is some sort of veiled "strategy" to prevent an even worse bill or amendment to pass. It makes the statement that you think flag burning should be illegal. I do not. And I don't support anyone who does.

[Crunchy Frog]

13. They think she's the anti-Christ.

There's nothing she can say or do that will ever change that. I wish she'd get that through her head.

[DistressedAmerican]

14. I Didn't.

She has been like this from day one.

[Selatius]

16. If Hillary needs a better strategy, then do this:

1. Talk about the issue of health care in this country
   
2. Talk about the problems with our education system
   
3. Talk about finding a way out of Iraq that makes some fucking sense
   
4. Talk about the problem of greed in politics, the culture of corruption, and the malevolent influence of corporate special interest money on everything
   
5. Talk about electoral reform/vote fraud
   
6. Talk about the ruined towns across America as the result of free-trade policies, the empty rusting hulks of factories that used to be places of work for Americans
   

Talk about an issue that matters to the ordinary joe, for God's sake. These are just some of the things.

[Voltaire99]

30. Those are the positions of the candidate whom I'll vote for...

...and I'm quite certain it won't be a certain McCarthyite senator from New York.

[MissMarple]

19. Flag burning...now what is that all about?

So Hilary thinks I can't dispose of my own personal property, in a responsible manner, as a protest against this country's government? I can burn anything else I own but not a flag. Will that ban soon include a Colorado state flag? Hmm....? :eyes:

Interesting that this is a bill and not an amendment.

[Walt Starr]

22. The ~33% hjard core right won't vote for her

and she's doing her damndest to make certain the ~33% hardcore left won't, either.

[DanCa]

23. Ragged Old flag - Good going.

Ragged Old Flag Lyrics
by Johnny Cash
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I walked through a county courthouse square
On a park bench, an old man was sittin' there.
I said, "Your old court house is kinda run down,
He said, "Naw, it'll do for our little town".
I said, "Your old flag pole is leaned a little bit,
And that's a ragged old flag you got hangin' on it".
He said, "Have a seat", and I sat down,
"Is this the first time you've been to our little town"
I said, "I think it is"
He said "I don't like to brag, but we're kinda proud of
That Ragged Old Flag

"You see, we got a little hole in that flag there,
When Washington took it across the Delaware.
and It got powder burned the night Francis Scott Key sat watching it,
writing "Say Can You See"
It got a rip in New Orleans, with Packingham & Jackson
tugging at its seams.
and It almost fell at the Alamo
beside the Texas flag,
But she waved on though.
She got cut with a sword at Chancellorsville,
And she got cut again at Shiloh Hill.
There was Robert E. Lee and Beauregard and Bragg,
And the south wind blew hard on
That Ragged Old Flag

"On Flanders Field in World War I,
She got a big hole from a Bertha Gun,
She turned blood red in World War II
She hung limp, and low, a time or two,
She was in Korea, Vietnam, She went where she was sent
by her Uncle Sam.
She waved from our ships upon the briny foam
and now they've about quit wavin' back here at home
in her own good land here She's been abused,
She's been burned, dishonored, denied an' refused,
And the government for which she stands
Has been scandalized throughout out the land.
And she's getting thread bare, and she's wearin' thin,
But she's in good shape, for the shape she's in.
Cause she's been through the fire before
and i believe she can take a whole lot more.

"So we raise her up every morning
And we bring her down slow every night,
We don't let her touch the ground,
And we fold her up right.
On second thought
I *do* like to brag
Cause I'm mighty proud of
That Ragged Old Flag"

[No Exit]

25. You're absolutely right.

Those people would rather cut off their hand than EVER, EVER, vote for Hillary.

And as we know, those people will cling to an erroneous idea until the bitter end.

She's a fool if she thinks she can attract them. I've been down in thar amongst 'em, and it ain't gonna happen.

[KG]

31. the clintons are world class opportunists.

why is anybody surprised by this?

[OneBlueSky]

32. not only won't I vote for Hillary in the presidential primary . . .

I won't even vote for her in the senatorial primary . . . hell, I may not even vote to re-elect her (depending on who her third party opponent is) . . .

if I wanted a senator who supported Republican issues, I'd vote for a Republican . . .

[Disturbed]

33. Rethugs and their RW Corp Media keep pushing for her..

because they know that only the DINOs in the Dem Party like her. They feel that she will lose so they keep her as "the front runner", plus it generates more big bucks for their coffers.

[mmonk]

34. ssssssssshhhhh! She hasn't got the memo.

She's still searching for the middle road while the road is forking only into two paths, right or wrong.