Why would Lieberman not want "digging around" about pre-war stuff.

[madfloridian]

If you can not tell what John Warner and Joe Lieberman are saying in this paragraph, I can spell it out. Keep attacking, keep killing, keep getting killed.

And why in the world would Lieberman not want "digging around"?

"Both senators offered foreboding predictions for the situation in Iraq if America's political setting continues to be as divided as it is currently. "I anticipate a very stressful situation unless this Government takes strong control in Iraq—120 days from now is when serious stress on where we're going to go will begin to set in," said Warner. "I don't want to see us digging around anymore for who did what in 2003," said Lieberman, stating that continued partisan finger pointing is damaging the public support that is needed to complete the efforts in Iraq and finally bring US troops home.


http://www.aspeninstitute.org/site/c.huLWJeMRKpH/b.1184451/k.7247/Senators_John_Warner_and_Joe_Lieberman_Call_for_Bipartisan_US_Foreign_Policy.htm

I wish he would work so effectively with our Democrats.

[wtmusic]

1. The only thing that matters, Joe

is the reason *why* we went to war, why we killed 100,000 Iraqis and 2,000 American soldiers. The whole world and most Americans know it.

With any kind of justice Joe the Accomplice will hang for war crimes too.

[MrBenchley]

9. Amazing...

So if Joe got a compromise plan worked out in Congress that brought the troops home quickly, but shut down any investigation into pre-war activities, you'd want it rejected?

[wtmusic]

11. The reason why we're failing in Iraq

is the war is based on a lie. If Saddam was really as bad as the admin makes him out to be, the Iraqis would have welcomed us with candy and flowers. He wasn't.

You want to guarantee the kidnappers won't be prosecuted for the safe return of the hostages. I don't.

[JHB]

15. Let's see him bring in something with those terms

That's a big, fat "if" to hang "putting it behind us" on. Look at what happened with the Reagan/Bush-era scandals: once they were relegated to "old news", they usually stayed that way.

You usually like to talk practical politics: if we're going to hand the administration and the Republicans de facto amnesty for malfeasence on its part before the war, why should we do it without something concrete?

[FreedomAngel82]

2. Maybe he was involved?

Remember the Bush kiss after he was "elected"? I remember getting very weird vibes with that.... Lieberman knows.

[xultar]

3. He's into it up over his head, I bet he was 4 it to happen for Israel.

[stepnw1f]

33. I'm Am Starting to Believe the Same

Stocks in oil maybe?

[AndyTiedye]

4. Lieberman is Likud First and a Democrat Second

Even in Israel, Lieberman would be considered a hawk.

[oregonindy]

5. Zell Lieberman needs to be removed ASAP. whose the candidate running

against him? The green one, not the repuke.

[Ouabache]

6. I don't know, but the smarmy bastard needs a primary opponent too

imho

[niallmac]

7. "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes

a revolutionary act" Eric Arthur Blair..."It's not the truth I dislike. It's the facts I'm not fond of." Colbert Report
So listen up Proles. No digging around for facts see?

[MrBenchley]

8. Do you NEVER tire of this mendacious crap?

Joe gave a good reason, fer Chrissake: "continued partisan finger pointing is damaging the public support that is needed to complete the efforts in Iraq and finally bring US troops home." You can disagree with what he says, as I do, but it's beyond dishonest to pretend that he gave no reason.

"If you can not tell what John Warner and Joe Lieberman are saying in this paragraph, I can spell it out. Keep attacking, keep killing, keep getting killed."
And that's why Warner is talking about the Iraqis taking control themselves and Joe is talking about bringing US troops home.

"I wish he would work so effectively with our Democrats. "
A) He IS a Democrat.
B) Unless you want to sit on your thumb and pout while the bodies continue to pile up, any Democratic plan to bring troops home will have to be bipartisan and include Republicans like Warner. Democrats don't have the votes to do anything now...and unless something changes drastically, won't have a filibuster proof majority even if we take Congress next year.

[wtmusic]

12. Of course--"That's ancient history...move along...

don't point out my colossal mistake or my culpability...don't TRY TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING NEXT TIME..."

[MrBenchley]

26. So covering up Joe's reasons seems okay to you

as long as you get to pout and posture...ho-kay.

[wtmusic]

30. *Who's* covering up?

Sen. Lieberman is desperately trying to cover up his complicity, and you, label "demanding accountability" as "pouting and posturing".

Whatever. I know it falls on deaf ears for those who've taken Kool-aid Kommunion in the Church of Holy Joe.

[madfloridian]

13. Ah, so you don't like finger pointing, Benchley.

Frankly, I think we should dig deeply into the events before the IWR vote as well. I think it should be allowed out in the open so our nation can heal.

[MrBenchley]

24. I don't like dishonesty, madfloridian

Such as when somebody pretends Joe Lieberman HASN'T posted his reasons.

You announce you want to "dig deeply"...while you cover up what Joe actually said.

[BurtWorm]

42. Did Joe Lieberman give a *good* reason in your opinion?

Do you think one can honestly argue that partisan fingerpointing is eroding support for the war?

[JHB]

16. Why is this "mendacious crap"?

We've had 20 years of folding early on Republican malfeasance in office in the name of "bipartisanship", and all we've gotten for it is a reputation for weakness and ever-escalating Republican attacks.

If you give this away, you'e not going to get it back. So why give it away cheap?

[MrBenchley]

25. Because Joe didn't hide why he said what he said, silly

You can disagree with his reasons...but it's pretty fucking dishonest to pretend he didn't give any reasons so you can hint that he has sinister motives.

[BurtWorm]

38. Is partisan fingerpointing eroding support for the war?

Is that why people have turned against it? It's not because the war is turning out to be something other than what it was sold as?

[AndreaCG]

22. Oh please

Lieberman is a spineless weasel, not a statesman.

[MrBenchley]

27. Speaking of spineless....

Wonder why people would have to pretend Joe Lieberman didn't give reasons for saying what he said. Could it be because they are unable to discuss those reasons and explain why they disagree with them?

[Clark2008]

36. OK - he gave his reasons...

but they were spineless, complicit and a vain attempt to protect his treasonous hide from seeing the light of the American beacon.

There - happy?

Joe is slime. He's covered in goop of holding alligenance to Israel over the United States. That's treason. Even if one is in favor of an Israeli state, that's no cause to chose what the Lukid Party in Israel wants over what is best for the United States as an American and as a US Senator.

Lieberman is a traitor - and his reasons stick up the room like putrid cheese.

[MrBenchley]

39. So let's pretend he didn't and dogpile!

Yippee!

By the way: It's so nice to see good old fashioned Jew-baiting making its way into the thread as well. </sarcasm>

[Clark2008]

40. ROFL!!

Jew-baiting? You're a twit who knows NOTHING about me, apparently.

The love of my life is Jewish AND he agrees with me about the traitorous Lieberman. My fiance hates what the government of Israel has become under the fanatics and no longer supports the Lukid-run government, even while he supports his religion and the heritage of his people. See... that's the thing: smart people understand the nuance - that the GOVERNMENT of Israel is NOT the Jewish people.

I was talking SPECIFICALLY about the Lukid Party of the Israeli government and the fact that its treasonous for anyone - a civilian or senator - to choose another country's interests over their own country's interests when making public decisions.

For the record, my ex husband is Palestinian. I believe I understand both sides of the Israel/Palestinian argument in spades - and from first-hand accounts.

Now.. who's "Jew-baiting?" I think that moniker belongs to the illustrious Mr. Lieberman. Not me.

P.S. I didn't deny Leiberman gave his "reasons." I just don't believe those are his real "reasons."

[MrBenchley]

41. Jew baiting.

P.S. I didn't deny Leiberman gave his "reasons."
Thank Christ for small favors.

[Clark2008]

43. Christ, Allah, Yahweh and Buddha would appreciate it

if their names were left out of this silly debate, I'm sure.

[JCMach1]

10. AIPAC pressure and influence

would be my guess...

[Loonman]

14. Censure the sumbitch

C'mon, Dean.

[Justice Is Comin]

17. Because he's a republican.

[rucky]

19. and a Neocon to boot. n/t

[madfloridian]

18. What post is he being considered for?

I heard some admin post. I bet if it is important enough he could wield power in hushing up things.

[converted_democrat]

28. The rumor is Rummy's position.....n/t

[Moochy]

34. Secretary of Defense : Genius

So the Bush Admin can blame IRAQ problems all on a democrat in time for 2006!

Genius!

[Cults4Bush]

20. Uh yep you nailed it, I wonder if any other New Middle Dems will

jump in with them.

Worst foreign policy disaster our country has ever undertaken, the entire thing considered a war crime by the bulk of the worlds citizens, lies through and through but lets not look into it.

Ahhh yes I think these war supporters are in it up to their eyeballs. Im sure there are more as well. All of 'em off to court for crimes against humanity.

[Individualist]

21. Easy question to answer

He's a republican enabler.

[MisterP]

23. the ASPEN Institute? guess Lieberman and Co. turn in clusters

[leesa]

29. Maybe he's the Niger document forger.

Joe is fully into the Crusade against Muslims so there's no way he wants any investigation into this or into 9-11.

[mattclearing]

31. Yeah, God forbid anyone determine that the invasion was based on lies.

It's clear what side Lieberman is on.

[tlsmith1963]

32. Lieberman is a Neocon

Why doesn't he just join the Republican Party, because he really belongs with them.

Tammy

[NNN0LHI]

35. The Aspens are turning...

I expect Joementum will have a date in front of a Fitzgerald grand jury before this is all said and done.

Don

[LaurenG]

37. I have the worst feeling about Lieberman

A wolf in sheeps clothing doesn't begin to describe him. He gives me the creeps in a very scary way.