Sorry everyone, but it's time for you to leave DU

[leftofthedial]

and go see Syriana right now.

[DS1]

1. eh, it was okay

:shrug:

[leftofthedial]

2. tells it like it is

quite elegantly IMHO

[DS1]

5. excessively broken up IMO

decent movie, it was nice to not have my intelligence insulted by a political movie

[leftofthedial]

7. it's such a complex scenario

for most Murkans to grasp. If you leave out the geopolitics, it's just terror. If you leave out the incestuous relationship between corporations and the US government, it's just conspiracy theory crap. If you leave out the idealism of young Muslims who have nothing, it's just Imperialism as usual. If you leave out peak oil, the magnitude of the greed and corruption is out of scale.

I really liked this movie.

[leftofthedial]

39. I know what you mean by "broken up."

early in the movie, the shifts between the various threads of the story were a bit disorienting

[Bluzmann57]

3. Tomorrow

matinee prices in the afternoon. But there's a movie at the IMAX I want to see as well. What to do? IMAX won't be out on video, "Syriana" will. That makes it a bit easier.

[leftofthedial]

8. just so you support the film and the filmmakers

for even getting such a film into theaters.

If you rent the DVD when it's out, do a double feature with Syriana and The Constant Gardener.

[frazzledmom]

18. You can get most IMAX movies on DVD

I have quite a few of them... try searching for IMAX at Amazon..

[AZBlue]

28. Yeah, but it's not the same as seeing it on the giant IMAX screen..

[CatholicEdHead]

4. See it now or wait for the DVD?

[leftofthedial]

9. see it now, while your support has more economic impact.

it's an important message for Americans to see. Most don't understand the dynamics of our "oil Imperialism."

[WindRavenX]

6. SO and I will probably DL it and see it this weekend

Coz we're too effin' poor.

Looks good. And any trailer that has Moby's "God Moving Over The Face of The Water" = awesome

[leftofthedial]

15. pay attention

it has several interweaving plots

[applegrove]

10. Complex part of the world. Intertwined several truths. Lots of what we

talk about at the DU. Good and bad people on all sides. Don't see how they could have left anything out. Well done.

[leftofthedial]

16. I think it was, in a weird way, balanced

I think an average, relatively ignorant Murkan from the heartland would have their eyes opened about what is really going on in the Middle East.

[Terran]

29. Oh yes, those of us from the Heartland

are dumber than the average American. :eyes:

[leftofthedial]

30. Oh. are you an average ignorant Murkan from the Heartland?

odd.

I think even buttheaded shitstains from the northeast would get it.

[applegrove]

31. Warning - spoiler

I was especially glad they put that thread in there about suicide bombers.And how youth - with no right to chase girls before marriage end up extending their adolescence. And that throughout their lives - in muslim schools and by joining muslim groups - they get nurturing (manipulation too) and nice food. When the governance is not working for democracy and sharing wealth among people - or giving people citizenship if they have worked somewhere for 20 years (as perhaps the father did) there is a total lack of security and total poverty. And the muslim religion steps in to fill the void. And for every 100 great mullahs - all there has to be is one bad one. And that is all it takes to get generations after generation of suicide bombers.

The british army worked the same way in the 19th century. Young people were falling over themselves to get jobs as red coats for the lifestyle it allowed (food & drink). And though the soldier might end up with land or a full time job so to start a family - the suicide bombers seem to be promised the one thing poverty keeps them from. A little wealth - moving the mother from a country far away to the side of this lad's father.

Well done. I would not say that the movie was enjoyable - as much as it was highly informative.

[leftofthedial]

32. sounds like the repuke version of Murka

"When the governance is not working for democracy and sharing wealth among people . . . there is a total lack of security and total poverty."

[applegrove]

33. But it is worse in the Middle East. In twenty years - with no dynamic

economies that would come from democracy and equalization of wealth - there will be even more poor and groundless, assetless, jobless, empoverished youth running around - putting off family (and thus sex) and living the lives of poor adolescent teenagers - when they should be adult men (working hard and working for family - or at least near family structure).

[leftofthedial]

40. yep, the ME and the third world have it bad

but it still sounds like the repuke vision for Murka.

[BlueEyedSon]

11. Glad to here that it's good. Will see it asap....

[leftofthedial]

13. it kind of bummed me out and kind of pissed me off

and it told a complex story well, without preaching and without hyperbole I thought

[RazzleDazzle]

12. Caught most of Charlies Rose's interview of Gaghan (sp) yesterday

during some channel surfing, and I was aghast, really. Let's see what I can remember:

* he sat in a room with big oil execs -- it was a party at one of their penthouses -- and they were playing a game, trying to guess "which country's govt will be overthrown next for its oil assets." They guessed several different ones, and the oil exec who owned the penthouse said, "You're all wrong. It's Nigeria. And it cost $50 million." And he wasn't joking.

Gaghan said he'll never fly in small planes again. Too easy to rig things to make them crash, and not get caught.

Can't remember much more. Lotta discussion about movie making.

Does Charlie Rose have transcripts? It would be a good one to have.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. Yes, I saw him too

He really shook me up and I'm not easily shaken anymore. The part about the rich guys in NYC deciding who to over throw next was expecially chilling. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I think it will all make a lot more sense having seen the interview.

[RazzleDazzle]

17. I do remember one more thing

That yes, there were many things he learned while doing his research that he could not/would not/actively feared putting in his screenplay and film -- like people killled, how the White House implements some of its policies (he used a special term which made me think "assassination" but may not actually have meant that) and how those are carried out in the field.

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. Yes, the orders for some of these murders

came directly from the WH.

It fits right in with the story coming out about Bush issuing an executive order after 9-11 which he basically gave himself carte blanche to kill anyone, anywhere.

[tlsmith1963]

20. I Heard That It's Pretty Complex

So it would probably be better to watch on DVD. Then you could watch it multiple times. It would be easier to figure out that way. I *do* want to see it, but it will be on DVD.

Tammy

[chat_noir]

21. the reality of this fiction is frightening

check out

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5565097

[leeroysphitz]

22. but it's getting late and I have to be at work early tomorrow. n/t

[Blue_Roses]

23. I can't wait to go see it

George Clooney:loveya:

[leftofthedial]

24. he's good

and brave (as an actor) in this role

[lonestarnot]

25. Next weekend.

[chat_noir]

26. Critics' Choice Awards - George Clooney/Syriana/GNGL

George Clooney, already announced as the recipient of the group's Freedom Award, also picked up three noms: supporting actor in "Syriana" and director and co-screenwriter of "Good Night, and Good Luck."

more on Mr. Clooney:


In addition to "Mountain" and "Crash," the best picture nominees are "Capote," "Cinderella Man," "The Constant Gardener," "Good Night, and Good Luck," "King Kong," "Memoirs of a Geisha," "Munich" and "Walk the Line."


Best acting ensemble

"Crash"; "Good Night, and Good Luck"; "Rent"; "Syriana"; "Sin City"


Best writer

Noah Baumbach, "The Squid and the Whale"; George Clooney and Grant Heslov, "Good Night, and Good Luck"; Dan Futterman, "Capote"; Paul Haggis and Bobby Moresco, "Crash"; Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana, "Brokeback Mountain"



http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=1396136

[chat_noir]

27. 'Munich' and 'Syriana' Among AFI's 10 Best

Steven Spielberg's "Munich," which centers on the aftermath of the killings of 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics, and the oil-industry thriller "Syriana" were named Sunday among the American Film Institute's 10 best movies of 2005. The other films AFI selected were: "Brokeback Mountain,""Capote,""The 40-Year-Old Virgin,""King Kong,""Crash,""Good Night, and Good Luck" "The Squid and the Whale" and "A History of Violence."

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1205/285012.html

[ourbluenation]

34. Saw it - I recommend you read the synopsis on the website first....

The movie is quite complicated - I came home and went to the website. Wish I had done that first to clear up a few little things. My husband and I give it two thumbs up.

[leftofthedial]

35. yep. it's fairly complex

you need to pay attention

but it's not overwhelming and deals succinctly with a vastly complex set of topics.

[warrens]

36. Only after you read Assassin's Gate

The BEST book about the Iraq war and neocons yet. I am reading it slowly, savoring every word.

I really liked Syriana. And it did $67 million this weekend, amazing for a political movie.

[leftofthedial]

38. After a couple days of sinking in,

I like it even better

compelling movie

:thumbsup:

[incapsulated]

37. Next weekend. n/t

[BelgianMadCow]

41. errrm in 3 months

release here 1st march 2006

wtf!