The Belt Way Boys on Fox News. Who are these dried up

[Check12]

prunes? Mort and Fred. What a couple of turds these guys are.

Mort said his hero is Joe Lieberman.

Fair and balanced with Mort as a Moderate to right wing idiot and Fred as the ultra right wing idiot.

These guys are 100% republican propagandists!

[thefloyd]

1. I hate the Beltway Boys

Fox's Trying to portray all Democrats out of the mainstream by throwing Kondrake in the mix. Fox claims he is a democrat but any observer knows Kondracke is simply a Republican Lite shill.

[gordonlamb]

2. Lieberman's not so bad, though.

[dutchdemocrat]

3. Waiting for the takedown...

:popcorn:

[gordonlamb]

4. He was the vice-presedential candidate for the democratic party!

[Raydawg1234]

7. That was a political decision because he is one of the most conservative..

Democrats, They wanted to appeal to moderats.

Lately he's turning into a Dixie-crat! He's the next Zell Miller!

[gordonlamb]

9. But Al Gore is no far-left hero.

[newyawker99]

68. Hi gordonlamb!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Hello_Kitty]

12. I think I'll join you.

:popcorn:

[Raydawg1234]

6. I'm from Connecticut, and I think Lieberman is a TRAITOR!!!

[gordonlamb]

8. But why?

I mean, why is Lieberman a traitor? He hasn't done anything seditious. Maybe traitorous to the hard-left Democratic party but not to the nation and not to his office. And not, really, to the Democratic party at large.

[Raydawg1234]

10. alright, how do you feel about Bush then?

[gordonlamb]

11. Don't like him.

I don't disagree with Bush on everything but i disagree enough to be happy he can't run for office again.

[Hello_Kitty]

13. OK, I'll bite. What do you agree with him about? n/t

[gordonlamb]

15. A few things...but with reservation

I agree that public education needs a massive overhaul....but disagree with the way No Child left Behind seeks to accomplish this.
I agree that our tax system needs a massive overhaul...but Bush has only made things more complicated and difficult.

[gordonlamb]

14. I'd still like a respnse to my questions about Lieberman, though. :)

[Crazy Guggenheim]

17. He's kissing buddies with Bush.

:popcorn:

[gordonlamb]

19. POPCORN!

[Crazy Guggenheim]

22. You know how Bush planted one on Lieberman??

[gordonlamb]

25. Missed that one.

[Raydawg1234]

16. You have to realize that on this site, most people disagree.......

with Bush on just about everything.....fuck it, everything. Lieberman in the past weeks has suddenly jumped ship from his democratic colleagues and supported Bush whole-heartedly. Democrats in Congress have even go so far as to say that he is "completely alone". If you cannot then see why I think Lieberman is a traitor, then I do not know what to say.

[gordonlamb]

18. hold on...

"If you cannot then see why I think Lieberman is a traitor, then I do not know what to say."


It's OK, just breathe and then clamly explain what values aand/or convictions that are core to the Democratic party you feel he has betrayed. ;) Or don't. it's cool.

I know 99.9% of people on here hate Bush with a flaming passion. Like I said, I don't like hinm either.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

20. Have you heard what he has said recently?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/3516619.html

"We undermine the president's credibility at our nation's peril," Lieberman said.

[Raydawg1234]

21. It's like if a prominent Republican called for all troops to be removed

from Iraq tommarow, that wouldn't really fit in with conservative beliefs.................

See where I'm going here?

[gordonlamb]

23. I get ya...

But there are some Democrats that aren't gainst the war. I certainly understand why some would feel betrayed by him fluffing up Bush's credibility but has he contadicted himself? I mean, was he staunchly anti-war before the war started or has he shifted? I can't remember.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

26. He's always been for it.

[Raydawg1234]

28. Yes many Democrats in Congress are, dare I say, Pussies, and don't

openly support the end of the war. But Lieberman is just too much.

[gordonlamb]

29. uh oh...

Might not want to use that word lest you rile the radical feminists up in here. ;)

[KitchenWitch]

33. This radical feminist was not offended...

just sayin'

[gordonlamb]

35. hehe!

I figured that would ge some type of response. I always try to be careful on the internet to not say things like that, though. You know the whole "equating womens sex organs with weakness", etc. Since I don't know anyone here personally they wouldn't necessarily understand my sarcasm. So I avaoid it but, hey, if no one's aoffended then by all means. Carry on. :)

[Raydawg1234]

40. This is the internet here dude, anything go's....well almost

[gordonlamb]

44. I was gonna say...

yes, it's the internet, but it's also DU and not anything goes on DU. So i wanna be somewhat careful.

[KitchenWitch]

43. Frankly, I have always hated the word Pussy being used in

reference to female genitalia...So I just never equate the use of it with that.

[lumpy]

72. My pussy cat resents being equated

with female genitalia.

[Raydawg1234]

38. Right on!

:toast:

[KitchenWitch]

39. Cheers!

:toast: :popcorn:

[Raydawg1234]

24. Although it doesn't really matter anyway...........

Because Bush is just going to make him Secratary of Defense next year anyways. We here in Connecticut will then be free to replace him.

[gordonlamb]

27. Totally off topic but...

Connecticit it such a pretty state.

[Raydawg1234]

32. You have'nt been to Norwich then!

Watch out though you might get shot and end up in a crappy hospital with a doctor who doesn't know his ass from his elbow!

[gordonlamb]

37. Thanks for the tip!

[norml]

30. When I think of "hard left" I think of folks that resemble the hard right

You know, all that "all hail the armed struggle of the revolutionary forces" crap, dressing in camo, despising those who just want to have a good party time, rather than wanting to follow the dictates of the party.

I hate that kind of nonsense.

As for saying there's no way things will turn out well under any movement that calls itself conservative or Project for the New American Century plan, well that's just common sense.

Fighting for public services protections benefits and rights isn't far left.

Fighting for the idea that those who are richer should be taxed at a higher rate than those who are poorer isn't far left either, it's just good economic sense.

[gordonlamb]

34. Hmmm...

I don't recall mentioning the Project For The New American Century but we can discuss if you want.

[Raydawg1234]

36. I agree

I dont like the terms "left" and "right". They are to black and white, when reality is a shade of grey. I sort of agreed with some of the "old conservatives" (before they became flesh eating zombies) on things like too much gov. regulation on where you can smoke, stuff like that, the gov. intruding on your everyday life.

[gordonlamb]

41. Neo cons are nothing like the Old Conservatives..

... who are much more in line with how I feel about things like gov't intrusion, etc.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

42. So who did you vote for in the last election?

[gordonlamb]

45. uh-oh, please read whole post...

I voted for Bush for a few reasons but mnostly because I was sick to my stomach over the blow dried, pompous attitude and wishy-washy record of John Kerry. This was the very first election i ever voted in where I felt like I had to choose the lesser of the evils. Voted for Jerry Brown in 1992 and Clinton in 1996. There's just absolutely no way I could vote for Kerry.

I will say it was a weird feeling voting for Bush at the top of teh ballot and against Georgia's referendum banning gay marriage at teh bottom of the ballot.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

46. Ever hear this joke?

Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"

[gordonlamb]

47. HOLY SHIT!

Do I know you? I tell that joke ALL THE TIME!

[KitchenWitch]

48. If you enjoyed that

Go to http://www.google.com

Type miserable failure in the box and click "I'm feeling lucky".

Type asshole in the box and do the same.

[gordonlamb]

49. oh, I know all about those.

You can also try that with doing a google search for "French Military Victories". Try that one...

[Crazy Guggenheim]

50. What about chickenhawks? BTW, are you going to sign up to go to Iraq?

[gordonlamb]

51. What do you mean?

You mean older guys that cruise for young boys (IE: chicken hawks?) I don't support that. As for Iraq, I am too old to join the military. However, not having done some military service in my life is a regret of mine.

[KitchenWitch]

52. Chickenhawk - as in "supporting the war" without being bothered

with putting any action into that support.

GWB - Chickenhawk - sure kept Texas safe from the VC
etc etc etc

[gordonlamb]

53. It depends...

I don't think that someone is excluded from reasonable, thoughful commentary either pro-or-against the war simply because they've not done military service but I do see what you mean. I have problems with those people who seem to ahve a blood lust yet, as you put it, "can't be bothered" by performing the task themsleves.

As far as GWB's service is concerned, though, this seems to be a problem with the structure of the military. True, he want't defending Texas from the Viet Cong but the military is structed so that this type of service is deemed an acceptable completion of ones service. Should this be changed? I don't know. But perhaps the military is organized incorrectly in times of war.

[Tom Bombadil]

54. Speaking as a non-American

I'm amazed at the obsession you have with the military in your country. That goes for Democrats and Republicans. Western Europe, where I'm from is nothing like that.

[gordonlamb]

55. Knowledge and interest is not obsession.

I think people have a responsibility to know what they're talking about.
Having knowledge of ones subject isn't "obsession". It's smart.

Are you saying that Europeans at large have no interest or knowledge of how the internal structure of their militaries work?

[Tom Bombadil]

56. All I'm saying is that in

America there is a preoccupation with the miltary, across the board, that you do not see in western Europe. Sure, Europeans have a knowledge of their militaries, but 'the military' and military service is not such a big deal in society at large.

[LeftCoast]

71. Never heard of Napolean I guess?

[Speed8098]

57. So after the 4 years of BS chimpy put us through

You saw fit to go in and give this juvenile, lying, alcohol soaked, drug addicted, mean spirited fratboy another 4 years, and then you say it was the "Lesser of 2 evils"!?!?!?!?!?!?

What.......are we supposed to just accept that?

It's because of people like you who drank the kool-aid that we have this punk running our country.

I'm sorry, I can't find it in my heart to forgive ANYONE who voted for this asshole in 04.


Sheesh, do we even live on the same planet.

Lesser of 2 evils my ass. * is evil in all it's forms.

[Name removed]

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Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[KitchenWitch]

59. Poster may or may not be a troll

not for me to decide, and it is against the rules to call someone out like that.

However, I prefer to give trolls enough line to hang themselves.

Welcome to DU.

[Justsayin]

61. Thanks, I did not know that. See this quote

"I voted for Bush"

that says it all to me!

I am tired of crying for the death and destruction that the criminal cabal have caused.

[KitchenWitch]

62. I saw that

Not all people who voted for Bush are freeper trolls...just sayin'

I happen to know several people who are regretting their Bush votes now.

[gordonlamb]

64. Thank you!

See...you get it. It's more than a regret simply for having voted for Bush, though. It's a regret that there was simply no candidate worthy of being president but, like I said, Kerry was never going to get my vote.

[gordonlamb]

60. If you say so...

What the hell is a 'freeper'? You mean a person who reads the Detroit Free Press (also known as the "Freep")?

[Bluebear]

65. Cute. nt

[gordonlamb]

63. It's not for you to accept or not accept...

It doesn't matter to me if you "accept" it or don't. It simply is.
I don't require or seek anyones "forgiveness". I'm sure there are things we agree on and things we disagree on. I came on here to thoughtfully discuss the issues of the day. Hopefully this will happen.

[Speed8098]

69. Ok, I'll bite

Do you support the war in Iraq and do you believe there is a connection between the attacks on September 11,2001 and Saddam Hussein?

[gordonlamb]

70. nope.

nope. not at all.

[lumpy]

73. Thanks you for saying this, Speed

I was beginning to feel like live bait.

[DemonFighterLives]

66. Kerry was not my top choice

but his intelligence and diligence far surpassed b*sh.
Dumbya stole the election in 2000 in a type of silent coup and his father has been involved with many nefarious people the world over. See Saudis and Bin Ladens.
I'm not going into all of it, but you must feel terrible now for being so deluded by the swiftboaters and b*shco.
:hi:

[KharmaTrain]

5. A Chimp is ACTUALLY Smarter Than Barnes...Here's Proof

:rofl:

These guys 15 minutes ended weeks ago.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

31. Red X.

[DemonFighterLives]

67. I used to tolerate them on McLaughlin Group which I like

but they have drifted farther right all the time. Perhaps they got some of the big shill payola.
They suck now!