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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:41 PM
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It seems like the RNC likes to doctor pictures, to mislead the public....

http://www.slate.com/id/2132087/

The Grinch Who Doctored Photos
The RNC's fraudulent new ad.


The RNC's new Web video "Retreat and Defeat" starts with a flat-screen TV playing clips from Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, Sen. Barbara Boxer, and Sen. John Kerry. As they speak, a white flag waves over their faces while ominous music moans. Dean says the war in Iraq can't be won; Boxer says withdrawal should start after the Iraqi election; and Kerry says U.S. soldiers shouldn't be "terrorizing kids and children, you know, women." Then the camera pans back, and we learn that we've been watching these clips over the shoulder of a U.S. soldier dressed in desert camouflage, his semiautomatic rifle strapped to his back. Candy canes hang on the wall just above the screen, which flashes the message: "Our soldiers are watching and our enemies are too."




The video conveys the impression that somewhere in Iraq, a soldier is having his mission and Christmas tarnished by weak-willed Democrats. Here is a frame from the ad and the actual picture of the soldier, taken two years ago. As shown below, the soldier was really watching How the Grinch Stole Christmas!



The soldier and the Grinch, pre-doctoring

Web ads are a special low art meant to stir the base. Both parties use them: They are cheap to produce and usually highly misleading. Both parties also hope the media pick up on them and spread their messages without the party having to buy actual, expensive air time.

...

What neither party has done—until now—is inject the idea that the other party is undermining our troops overseas. The RNC is pimping a mute and unnamed soldier not just to defend the Iraq war but to imply that Democrats are white-handkerchief-waving cowards who want the United States to lose.


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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:43 PM
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1. Great catch
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:51 PM
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12. While it is a low res web ad, wanna guess which MSM outlet
aired the entire ad and then spent several minutes with three of their super duper "commentators" to discuss the "issue?" Yep, Faux News decided this ad deserved airing on their faux channel as...wait for it...NEWS! The RNC couldn't have asked for a better media buy for a free, limited distribution web ad for the party faithful.

And, no, I'm not surprised they gerry-rigged a photo of a soldier to use for their own means. It is one of the things they do best, use a soldier for their own evil agenda.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:44 PM
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2. well, they doctor election results
so why is anyone surprised?
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:44 PM
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3. We all know the GOP's problem...their hearts are two sizes too small!
"You're a mean one, Mr. Bush..." LOL
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:48 AM
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25. You mean their brains, right?
"You're a dumb one, Mr. Bush..." LOL
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:45 PM
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4. IIRC it is illegal to use active duty Mil in political ads. Yes?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:51 PM
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10. It used to be
I wonder if that fellow even knows his pictured was begin used for this?


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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:46 PM
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5. This is SO plastic turkey!
Nominated.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:48 PM
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6. The frustrating thing is.......
the Dems never seem to rebut or correct this crap. It's a strategy I can't figure out.
:shrug:
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:49 PM
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7. Here are more examples of Republicans altering pictures
I made a compilation, they are all here:

http://www.brainshrub.com/alterations

Here's one example:



(Guess which one is the real image?)

Enjoy.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:51 PM
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11. cool, thanks. Add this one to the ever growing list.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:31 PM
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16. I completely forgot about that one!
wow, that makes me laugh every time I see it. Insanity.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:06 PM
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18. You posted this before and it knocks me out --
The crowd is so obviously Dean and so anti-Schund...

Can't they find any happy Rethugs to pose with the Death Eaters?

:shrug:
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:02 PM
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26. The best thing about this one ...
is that Dean's thumb is still in the doctored photo. It is protruding from the middle of his left arm. What an incredibly shitty job of photo doctoring.

Cheers
Drifter
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:50 PM
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8. Does anyone believe the soldiers want to stay in Iraq?
There may be a few, but I'd guess about 1 in 100 want to stay and kill lots of "ragheads". The rest want to come home yesterday, like any normal person would.
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gordonlamb Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:51 PM
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9. perhaps...
The republicans were though if he as watching the Grinch then surely Keey is the same thing. I dunno. People have all kinds of weird ways to justoify this stuff and it's never right. MOVEON.ORG got busted a couple of weeks back for doctoring photos of British soldiers to make them loook American. There's PLENTY of stuff out there for folks to create the ads they want so why lie with one's source material? IT's SOOOO easy to be found out thee days.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:13 PM
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13. do you have a link for the MOVEON incident?
thanks, and welcome to DU!
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gordonlamb Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:22 PM
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15. Here's the MoveON thing.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 10:21 PM
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19. interesting group at osm, including
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 10:22 PM by ellenfl
at least 2 pnac-ers?

ellen fl
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:04 PM
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27. What was that about?
Are there any links about it here?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:19 PM
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14. "Not An Option" = "Read My Lips"
They're going to regret that one when they actually do start to retreat. Can we get Bush on record saying it?
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:49 PM
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17. Eric S. Edelman said "not an option"
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 06:54 PM by DemReadingDU
Mr. Edelman, the under secretary of defense, made it clear. "Iraq's future will either embolden terrorists and expand their reach and ability to re-establish a caliphate, or it will deal them a crippling blow," he said. "For us, failure in Iraq is just not an option."


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/12/politics/12letter.htm


edit to add...

OUR NATIONAL STRATEGY FOR VICTORY IN IRAQ
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_strategy_nov2005.html


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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:06 AM
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20. He's right. Failure in Iraq is NOT an option.
It's our FATE.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 02:45 AM
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21. kick
:kick:
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:11 AM
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22. Who Is Dumb Enough To Believe This Crap?
THEY deserve what this country is becoming but I don't!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 10:46 AM
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23. oh, Lord! This is GREAT!
Let's see THIS in the MSM! David Schuster, are you out there?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:23 AM
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24. How DARE the RNC use a symbol of cowardice on a war hero???
Oh yes, I remember now.. they did this shit to McCain, McClellan and Kerry during the elections and no one gave a shit. Never mind... I guess supporting the troops is selective, according to party. People wonder why I hate republicans... I didn't used to.
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:46 PM
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30. I think you mean Cleland, not McClellan.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:06 PM
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28. ..if it is only on the GOP website...who cares..let the DNC respond by

..putting a Anti-GOP one on thiers at least.

or just link to one on moveon.org for pete sake.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:20 PM
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32. the problem is that Fox news ran the ad, so it went beyond
their website.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:29 PM
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29. Please note...
They didn't use Murtha in this fake smear campaign. I can't imagine why. :eyes:
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Brusselscov Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:18 PM
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31. Creating "our own reality"
Our Sec'y of Defense has admitted it already and the founding father of neo-conservatism (Leo Strauss) espoused it, one needs to create a reality for the masses to follow since, to them, we are all too stupid to believe in the State without this artifice.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 09:18 AM
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34. Hi Brusselscov!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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gordontron Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:37 PM
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33. john stewart aired a piece that used this photo
and he didn't call them on the fakery, perhaps we should get in touch with him.
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