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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 08:52 AM
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The saddest thing about Liberals in the US
in my opinion is that we won't stick together and boycott something.

There was a small group of jackasses that got together and told Ford, "we won't buy your products because the 12 of us are homophobic...." and Ford fell apart pretty damned fast...less than 6 months.

But, when we talk of boycotts on DU, with thousands of people...we get posts like, "well...I HAVE to shop at W******" or "But F*** is ALL I like."

Fucking ridiculous. I don't give a rat's ass if you go out in the driveway and kiss your mustang right on the grill. You probably aren't going to buy another car for a year anyway...so, call Ford and tell them that you aren't going to be buying Ford products because they are stupid enough to bow down to a group of insane people.

The small group of weirdos can get their boycott act together, but hell no! Not us!

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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 08:54 AM
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1. Ford cars are crap, anyway
Why would anyone buy one for any reason?
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 08:56 AM
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3. I don't want to start a war in GD on whether or not Ford is good
people here love their cars, and there are some Ford lovers---however, this is about TELLING Ford, "we aren't buying from a bunch of homophobes."

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schrodinger_I Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 09:33 AM
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7. Stick to German Cars!
My wife and I do. BMW, Porsche or VW. They are all great cars. :-)
Of course I am biased because I don't buy American cars.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:04 AM
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9. Agreed!
I have a 1983 911 with 106,000 miles and it's a great car.

My other car is currently a Honda Accord, but my son starts driving in a year. He'll get the Honda and I'm buying a 540i.

German (or Japanese) engineering and assembly is vastly superior to U.S., IMO.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:34 AM
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12. Our domestic cars suck because of the incompetent management
techniques and structure that the (formerly) "Big Three" use. There is nothing wrong with US assembly, as you know, many of the German and Japanese cars we buy are assembled here. I'm sure any of the Detroit DUers can testify to how bad GM Ford and CHrysler management has been over the decades. Talk about cronyism, you pretty much have to be born into it, or at least go to school with those that were, to get into an upper management position in those corps.
Our system rewards the executive class regardless of how frequently, or how awful the bad decisions they make are. Make a hot seller the execs get richer, make a rolling turd and the execs get richer and thousands of worker get laid off. Both the German and Japanese manufacturers have executive accountability built into their system.
Wonder why my 20 year old Japanese car is still going strong with 1/4 million miles on it?
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purji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:43 AM
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13. you got it!
Ford is all about share holder value.
Quality is only a word they use in Ad campaigns
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 08:55 AM
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2. Eh I wouldn't rush to that judgement
Surprising as it actually is to me all the word of mouth and protest stuff about Walmart is really working. They had to come out with image improving ads and that still didn't help them. The new movie out about Walmart is really stinging.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 08:57 AM
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4. Same problem as with capital punishment...
Do you think there will be a hue and cry in Austin, Richmond, or Sacramento to outlaw this barbarity, or will it be on the eve of the next killing in the shadow of a prison wall?:puke:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 08:59 AM
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5. What's the point? Nothing is actually MADE here anymore....... nt
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 09:10 AM
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6. The point is that the companies that are making money no matter where
there stuff is made....are bowing down to pressure from a small faction of insane people that are actively homophobic.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 09:37 AM
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8. The squeaky wheel gets the oil
Old sayings get used so much, because they are true.. Bozell and his merry little band of bigots & troublemakers always manage to steer the "morality" issues too, because they are LOUD and they are tenacious..

I agree with you, Steph.... Dems usually get lost in the forest, because we cannot see past the trees right in front of us..
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:14 AM
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11. That's the problem. With the trade deficit hitting record highs,
the administration's answer to this is to put pressure on China, India, etc. to buy more "American" made products. My first thought when I heard this was "What products are those?".

Our massive purchasing power is a very powerful scalpel and bludgeon. We can use it now or not, but either way it won't last. I say we use it while we still have the chance to swerve around that brick wall coming at us...
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:08 AM
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10. Careful: You Might Be Labelled as "anti-Liberal".
As if Libs don't criticize one another---as in Progressives criticizing the DLC, or a populist criticizing a "Cadillac Lib" (how dated).
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 10:47 AM
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14. It's because not everyone believes the same way.
People who have no where to shop but WalMart haven't any choice. And, look at the recent postings on the DP here...some folks are pro-DP, others vehemently anti-DP.

You aren't going to get a consensus. You could get 12 people to say they won't shop at WalMart, hell I'm one of them, but does that really make a difference?

I don't WalMart is faring all that well this year, but of course, I could be wrong. Just anecdotally, the parking lot used to be very full all the time...not so much this year. Are people protesting WalMart or do they not have the money? :shrug:
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